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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 14:05:08
Subject: 500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That is an inefficient list.
If you're going for IoN, it would make more sense to have 2 units of Skeletons, so that each IoN rewards you with twice as many new skeletons as your current list does, as the IoN would affect both units assuming they are both within 6" of the Necro.
To be honest, though, whilst it seems efficient to use IoN at that points level as each new model is a greater percentage of the original army points value than in a larger list, it's no good having a great anvil if you have a rubber hammer.
I would personally go for wight king on barded steed running with 5 black knights with standard and musician, a spirit host, then that leaves 125 for your choice of core, almost certainly 21 Skeletons with musician and banner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 14:08:18
Subject: 500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Incubus
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Wight King could not be General as they cannot know lore of Vampire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 15:17:37
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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Agree with that as well. Best idea is to go with two units of skeletons like you suggested, and get a unit of black knights (if points allow) and put a Necromancer to lead that with master of the dead. You raise your skeleton units greater numbers, and use your black knights to deal with out riders (and small units) or make a flanking charge, to protect the unit with the Necromancer in it or in dire need to kill a enemy unit.
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2000 points
4 Wins/ 5 Draws/ 2 Losses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 15:20:16
Subject: 500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Incubus
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Or take a unit of Zombies and a unit of skeletons and the Black knights. Thus you still have two units taking advantage of Invocation and one grows large quickly (zombie bunker) the other grows steadily to be difficult (skeletons) I say this because you cannot really get two decent units of skeletons + Black knights at 500 but you can get 25 skeletons and 20 zombies + black knights for 500.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 15:22:19
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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With master of the dead Necromancer?
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2000 points
4 Wins/ 5 Draws/ 2 Losses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 15:23:08
Subject: 500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Incubus
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Yes, with master of the dead and level 2
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/13 15:23:23
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 17:38:08
Subject: 500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Squishy Oil Squig
hell, Norway
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In that case, this is what things are looking like now:
1x Necromancer - Master of the dead, level 2 wizard 120p
20x skeleton warriors - champion, stantard, musician, the screaming banner 155p
20x zombies - standard, musician 80p
5x black knights - hell knight, standard, musician, 5x lances 145p
500 total
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 20:54:22
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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You'll want barding on the Black Knights.
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2000 points
4 Wins/ 5 Draws/ 2 Losses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 23:55:26
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Squishy Oil Squig
hell, Norway
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Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:You'll want barding on the Black Knights.
why is that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 00:05:14
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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They get a +1 to their armor save. So that means they have a 2+ save, and in a small unit, they can last longer.
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2000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 01:18:34
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Squishy Oil Squig
hell, Norway
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Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:They get a +1 to their armor save. So that means they have a 2+ save, and in a small unit, they can last longer.
well if i go to a tourny, i don't think i can play with the army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 02:19:58
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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How come? You just lower the skeletons some to make the points (master of the dead will work its magic for them).
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2000 points
4 Wins/ 5 Draws/ 2 Losses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 04:09:47
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Squishy Oil Squig
hell, Norway
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Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:How come? You just lower the skeletons some to make the points (master of the dead will work its magic for them).
no i mean if say i went into a Tournament with this army could i still play or no?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 13:13:09
Subject: Re:500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
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Yes, you have the character plus the min. of 3 units.
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2000 points
4 Wins/ 5 Draws/ 2 Losses
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/14 13:29:29
Subject: 500 point Vampire counts (Will be my first fantasy army)
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Incubus
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Yeah, you can easily play with this list in a tournament.
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