Weekly Rage Inducing News: Classics of Literature Edition

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**LoneLictor**

purplefood wrote:
LoneLictor wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Jihadnik wrote: the homoeroticism of Top Gun at the time either....Damn Post Modernism!

Wait wut. The guy gets the girl. How much more Hetero can it be? The only homo-esque factor in that movie was Tom Cruise, and well, what do you want...

Because Top Gun had nothing to do with flying planes, it was all a metaphor for Maverick struggling with his own sexuality.

No way. Not in ten thousands years of sufferance and hellish nightmares. Not ever will I accept this as a proper interpretation of Top Gun. I mean, this is just too much... I can't live in a world like this anymore...
'

Those planes were quite long and hard.

What do you think they were a metaphor for?

Sticks?

And what are sticks a metaphor for?

**Kovnik Obama**

LoneLictor wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Jihadnik wrote: the homoeroticism of Top Gun at the time either....Damn Post Modernism!

Wait wut. The guy gets the girl. How much more Hetero can it be? The only homo-esque factor in that movie was Tom Cruise, and well, what do you want...

Because Top Gun had nothing to do with flying planes, it was all a metaphor for Maverick struggling with his own sexuality.

No way. Not in ten thousands years of sufferance and hellish nightmares. Not ever will I accept this as a proper interpretation of Top Gun. I mean, this is just too much... I can't live in a world like this anymore...
'

Those planes were quite long and hard.

What do you think they were a metaphor for?

Thank god I never took that class. I mean... I literraly wouldn't have been able to stop myself from running screaming out of the classroom after that piece of interpretative marvel.

Sherlock (the films) I can get, insecure male projecting the attraction they have for their best friends unto another male-male relationship, and all that crap. But Top Gun... Feth. There's not one movie in the world less cerebral than this. Well maybe Bad Taste.

Hell, someone's going to tell me that Bad Taste is a metaphor for the hardship a Transexual must go through to emerge as another gender...

Can someone tell my what Hells Come to Frog Town stands for? I mean, if there going to see a quest for sexuality in what is clearly a war show, what are they going to do with a show (badly) written as a quest for sexuality...?

**deathholydeath**

Also, this:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/ritchies-holmes-sequel-under-threat-from-writers-estate_1127343

The executors of SIR ARTHUR CONAN DOYLE's literary estate have threatened to withdraw GUY RITCHIE's rights to the SHERLOCK HOLMES story if the director hints at a homosexual relationship between the lead characters in his sequel.
Robert Downey, Jr., who plays the supersleuth in Ritchie's new movie adaption, recently appeared on David Letterman's U.S. talk show and hinted at a homoerotic subtext in the relationship between his character and Jude Law's Dr. Watson.
During the interview the actor also asked the audience to decide whether Holmes is "a very butch homosexual."
But Downey, Jr.'s comments have infuriated Andrea Plunket, who controls the remaining U.S. copyrights to the Holmes story, and she's threatened to withdraw permission for a follow-up if Ritchie suggests the detective is more than just friends with his sidekick.
She says, "I hope this is just an example of Mr Downey's black sense of humour. It would be drastic, but I would withdraw permission for more films to be made if they feel that is a theme they wish to bring out in the future. I am not hostile to homosexuals, but I am to anyone who is not true to the spirit of the books."

**purplefood**

LoneLictor wrote:
purplefood wrote:
LoneLictor wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Jihadnik wrote: the homoeroticism of Top Gun at the time either....Damn Post Modernism!

Wait wut. The guy gets the girl. How much more Hetero can it be? The only homo-esque factor in that movie was Tom Cruise, and well, what do you want...

Because Top Gun had nothing to do with flying planes, it was all a metaphor for Maverick struggling with his own sexuality.

No way. Not in ten thousands years of sufferance and hellish nightmares. Not ever will I accept this as a proper interpretation of Top Gun. I mean, this is just too much... I can't live in a world like this anymore...
'

Those planes were quite long and hard.

What do you think they were a metaphor for?

Sticks?

And what are sticks a metaphor for?

Guns?

**Bromsy**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
LoneLictor wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Jihadnik wrote: the homoeroticism of Top Gun at the time either....Damn Post Modernism!

Wait wut. The guy gets the girl. How much more Hetero can it be? The only homo-esque factor in that movie was Tom Cruise, and well, what do you want...

Because Top Gun had nothing to do with flying planes, it was all a metaphor for Maverick struggling with his own sexuality.

No way. Not in ten thousands years of sufferance and hellish nightmares. Not ever will I accept this as a proper interpretation of Top Gun. I mean, this is just too much... I can't live in a world like this anymore...
'

Those planes were quite long and hard.

What do you think they were a metaphor for?

Thank god I never took that class. I mean... I literraly wouldn't have been able to stop myself from running screaming out of the classroom after that piece of interpretative marvel.

Sherlock (the films) I can get, insecure male projecting the attraction they have for their best friends unto another male-male relationship, and all that crap. But Top Gun... Feth. There's not one movie in the world less cerebral than this. Well maybe Bad Taste.

Hell, someone's going to tell me that Bad Taste is a metaphor for the hardship a Transexual must go through to emerge as another gender...

Can someone tell my what Hells Come to Frog Town stands for? I mean, if there going to see a quest for sexuality in what is clearly a war show, what are they going to do with a show (badly) written as a quest for sexuality...?

I think the frogs represent the overarching patriarchy that has dominated politics since time immemorial - and the group of fertile women represents freedom, both sexual and cerebral, with RRP fulfilling the role of our collective adulthood/ need for that freedom. The group of women that capture him could either be a metaphor for modern society - ie their emasculating of him whilst still requiring him to reach the goal of their freedom; or on another level they could represent our fears of ourselves - terror at our own unbridled masculinity tearing down the walls of polite fiction we have built up which constitute modern society.

God I am drunk.

**Kovnik Obama**

Bromsy wrote:
I think the frogs represent the overarching patriarchy that has dominated politics since time immemorial - and the group of fertile women represents freedom, both sexual and cerebral, with RRP fulfilling the role of our collective adulthood/ need for that freedom. The group of women that capture him could either be a metaphor for modern society - ie their emasculating of him whilst still requiring him to reach the goal of their freedom; or on another level they could represent our fears of ourselves - terror at our own unbridled masculinity tearing down the walls of polite fiction we have built up which constitute modern society.

God I am drunk.

First off you get exalted, sir, as much for having me laugh out loud while talking to a customer, as for knowing that thing that is Hell comes to Frog town.
Second I feel less silly about my choice of major now

**Ahtman**

Kovnik Obama wrote:Second I feel less silly about my choice of major now

It's always nice to see a bs artist look down his nose at other bs artists.

**Kovnik Obama**

Ahtman wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:Second I feel less silly about my choice of major now

It's always nice to see a bs artist look down his nose at other bs artists.

Hey first time a philosophy major gets called an artist. Compared to a lot of things I've been called, it's a step up

**Ahtman**

People tend to think of us (Philosophy Majors) in about the same way as they do Lit and Film Studies, which is why I find the attitude amusing.

**dogma**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
Hey first time a philosophy major gets called an artist.

Argument is an art. The best art.

**Kovnik Obama**

Ahtman wrote:People tend to think of us (Philosophy Majors) in about the same way as they do Lit and Film Studies, which is why I find the attitude amusing.

Weird, here everyone seem to act as if we're priests, as if we'll listen to their problems and offer them the exact solution. NO I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR BREAKUP

I would've tought that in the States, with all that Analytical gak you have going on there, that you'd by now be seen somewhat as scientists...

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dogma wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Hey first time a philosophy major gets called an artist.

Argument is an art. The best art.

Exalted! (and I don't plan on ever being a rethorician, not witty enough)

**daedalus**

My conclusion from reading this thread is that if you're looking for something to be homosexual, and you're dedicated and desperate enough, you can find some way to justify it.

It's like making the argument that the significance of a object that happens to be phallic is the fact that it's phallic. Sometimes a cane REALLY is just a cane.

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LoneLictor wrote:
daedalus wrote:Don't joke about that. Goto might be listening.

YOU THINK MY LIFE'S WORK IS A JOKE?

I'VE SPENT TEN LOOOOOONG, LOOOOONG YEARS WRITING MY ROMANTIC EPIC BETWEEN THE UNNAMED PLAGUE AND RUBRIC MARINES! IT'S 78,000 WORDS! 523 PAGES!

AND YOU CALLED IT A JOKE?

Ooops.

**Easy E**

Kovnik Obama wrote:Also, can we get beyond 50 shades of gak? I know most people don't read more than a book a year, so they stretch the topic as much as possible, but for frak's sakes, there's plenty of other erotica... not that I could name them...

I think the popular one before was called "Delta of Venus" and may have been written by Annis Nin (spelling Alert). For obvious reasons, I don't want to google it at work.

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LoneLictor wrote:
purplefood wrote:
LoneLictor wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Jihadnik wrote: the homoeroticism of Top Gun at the time either....Damn Post Modernism!

Wait wut. The guy gets the girl. How much more Hetero can it be? The only homo-esque factor in that movie was Tom Cruise, and well, what do you want...

Because Top Gun had nothing to do with flying planes, it was all a metaphor for Maverick struggling with his own sexuality.

No way. Not in ten thousands years of sufferance and hellish nightmares. Not ever will I accept this as a proper interpretation of Top Gun. I mean, this is just too much... I can't live in a world like this anymore...
'

Those planes were quite long and hard.

What do you think they were a metaphor for?

Sticks?

And what are sticks a metaphor for?

Witches! She's a witch! Burn her!

**daedalus**

Also, I just stumbled upon Erotic Perl code. http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=414330

Spoilered because it's actually kind of vulgar.

Spoiler:

Apparently you need defined subroutines for the second line, but this only goes to show that you could smash your face on the keyboard and still get some sort of output in perl.

**LordofHats**

LoneLictor wrote:The Plague Marine suffers tentacle based mutations in warp travel in the story's 2nd act. He's very insecure about it, but the Rubric Marine shows him the fun they can have with them.

Part of me finds this utterly hilarious. The other parts are deeply disturbed by the part that finds it hilarious...

**youbedead**

dogma wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Hey first time a philosophy major gets called an artist.

Argument is an art. The best art.

I disagree.

**Platuan4th**

youbedead wrote:
dogma wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:
Hey first time a philosophy major gets called an artist.

Argument is an art. The best art.

I disagree.

What you did there.

I see it.

**LoneLictor**

LordofHats wrote:
LoneLictor wrote:The Plague Marine suffers tentacle based mutations in warp travel in the story's 2nd act. He's very insecure about it, but the Rubric Marine shows him the fun they can have with them.

Part of me finds this utterly hilarious. The other parts are deeply disturbed by the part that finds it hilarious...

ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY! STOP LAUGHING!

**Kovnik Obama**

Easy E wrote:
Kovnik Obama wrote:Also, can we get beyond 50 shades of gak? I know most people don't read more than a book a year, so they stretch the topic as much as possible, but for frak's sakes, there's plenty of other erotica... not that I could name them...

I think the popular one before was called "Delta of Venus" and may have been written by Annis Nin (spelling Alert). For obvious reasons, I don't want to google it at work.

And you'd be right not to. Anaïs Nin can write some very disturbing erotica. Little Birds had one novel about how public executions made for good crowd sex, another one about a sex tourist increasingly becoming obsessed with deviancy, until he couldn't stop himself from incest with his daughters and sons, and another about a (brilliant) dude that hid the promise ring his (already married) lover had given him by putting it on his schlong, which didn't end well at all, as I'm sure you can imagine.

At some point I'm not sure the term erotica still applies, more oversexed disturbing drama...

And yeah, my parents had a pretty well furnished library, all genre represented

**George Spiggott**

LoneLictor wrote:Someday, I hope to get my 40k slash fiction published. I've sent it to Black Library a couple dozen times, but they haven't responded.

[i]The Rubric Marine, his blue and gold armor glinting in the pale moonlight, caressed the Plague Marine's pestilent form. He leaned in closer and the two Astartes shared a tender kiss through their age old respirators. What about his loyalties to his legion? What about his loyalties to Tzeentch? He should have been on the battlefield with his Brothers. This felt so wrong...

Wow! Has the 40k erotic fiction moved on so quickly that making the protagonists Dark Angels has now become, dare I say, clichéd? This genre never ceases to amaze me with it's verve. Truly it is an inspiration to us all.

It's so unjust that you will be unrecognised in your time.

**Easy E**

I finally have a reason to read a Jane Austen novel.

**Cruentus**

Kovnik Obama wrote:
No way. Not in ten thousands years of sufferance and hellish nightmares. Not ever will I accept this as a proper interpretation of Top Gun. I mean, this is just too much... I can't live in a world like this anymore...

That interpretation certainly put the planes, the motorcycle, and the beach volleyball scene into an entirely different perspective...

edit. To actually address the topic, I become further and further distressed by these 'reimaginings' of the classics. There will eventually come a time, I fear, when no one will actually remember the classics, and will instead only know these.... ugh