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Who cares about cover it gets it's 3+ armor vs the psyflemans.

Who gives a stuff? 2 will still put 2 wounds on it.

I've been having no trouble taking out Quad Guns with my Vendettas. Most flyers are tall enough to see clear over the Aegis walls and get unobstructed shots at the gun emplacement. Smart players can mitigate this by placing the gun right up against the walls or by surrounding the emplacement with infantry, thus achieving at least 25% coverage. Not all players are smart, though.

TheCrazyCryptek wrote:Yeah, I had to hit one with 4 Doomsday Ark blasts (thats Str 9 AP 1) over 2 turns to take one out. My opponents army hadn't arrived from reserve yet so there was nothing else to shoot at. They are fairly survivable.

OT, but just wanted to say that this isn't possible. An opponent can't reserve more than half of his army (ignore things that must always start in reserve). Second of all, if your opponent has no models on the table at the end of a turn, they automatically lose in this edition.

Considering that almost everyone is using vastly more points than 140 to kill the gun, I guess I already have made a bargain if you take it out.

Blood and Slaughter wrote:

Who cares about cover it gets it's 3+ armor vs the psyflemans.

Who gives a stuff? 2 will still put 2 wounds on it.

on average you'd do 1.5 wounds... So by nearly guaranteed you mean if you get a little lucky you'll kill it. And you're firing 270 points at 50 points to hopefully kill it. They are a lot more survival than the old artillery emplacements.

Oh yea the old AV 10 all over any damage is death thing.
That was so lame.

Well if I put a squad with it, it can choose who it fires at I think and if you can then put the squad at the front then you could take to wound of the squad at the front then you can easily keep a gun emplacement alive for a long time

brothercon wrote:Well if I put a squad with it, it can choose who it fires at I think and if you can then put the squad at the front then you could take to wound of the squad at the front then you can easily keep a gun emplacement alive for a long time

Unfortunately that's not how it works, the squad crewing it just has one of it's guys shooting that instead of his weapon and thus all of them must shoot the same target.
Additionally since the gun isn't joined to the unit shooting can still be put into it.

The other thing to keep in mind is when assualting the Gun Emplacement is a seperate unit. If you want to kill it in CC you need to charge it directly and not just the squad firing it.

Gloomfang wrote:The other thing to keep in mind is when assualting the Gun Emplacement is a seperate unit. If you want to kill it in CC you need to charge it directly and not just the squad firing it.

which would mean a disordered charge too.

30 poison guants eat almost anything

While we're on the subject (hijacking thread? ), in what situation would a ADL gun Snap Shot at anything, given it has Interceptor & Skyfire?

The inclusion this text in the rules "of (unless it Snap Fires) blah blah" is confusing me. Be gentle, 1st cup of coffee is only half consumed .

Overwatch or Snapfire when you moved before firing the Quadgun?


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Where's that quote from?

You could pin the person firing it, that would cause them to shoot as ballistic skill 1.

Not if the gun is on a building then it can always shoot at bs 2 against the closest target.

pretre wrote:Where's that quote from?

Last line of the Interceptor listing on page 38:

" uses its full BS against all targets (unless it is firing Snap Shots)."

Aha. yeah, for overwatch, movement and pinning.

pretre wrote:Aha. yeah, for overwatch, movement and pinning.

Hadn't really thought about it, but can a gun emplacement move? (looking back and forth from 114 and 105)

White Ninja wrote:Not if the gun is on a building then it can always shoot at bs 2 against the closest target.

That's for emplaced guns, not gun emplacements.

Yeah, the Quad-gun or Icarus Lascannon bought with a Bastion is still a Gun Emplacement and can be killed seperatly(and can't auto-fire)

Grey Templar wrote:Yeah, the Quad-gun or Icarus Lascannon bought with a Bastion is still a Gun Emplacement and can be killed seperatly(and can't auto-fire)

And does not even need to be anywhere near the fortification that bought it. There are no restricktions on where you put a Gun Emplacement on the table.

Brothererekose wrote:While we're on the subject (hijacking thread? ), in what situation would a ADL gun Snap Shot at anything, given it has Interceptor & Skyfire?

The inclusion this text in the rules "of (unless it Snap Fires) blah blah" is confusing me. Be gentle, 1st cup of coffee is only half consumed .

When the unit behind the ADL dives for the 2+ cover, for example. Invincible gretchin frustrate people to no end

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:Actually since they have interceptor its normal bs for ground targets.

Hmmm... well it seems my suggesting that everyone take the lascannon instead of the quad gun was indeed a better option.

Oooh yeah. 'Specially with vehicles being much more killable now.