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2012/10/18 00:47:07
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
Bullockist wrote: This report has me worried about the observational abilities of officers, I mean a samurai sword, it's closer to a fencing foil!
Looks like a naginata to me. Taze him bro!
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2012/10/18 05:22:32
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
I don't see how a mistake like that could be made. A katana is a distinctively broad, shiny object that tapers off just as distinctively to a distinctive point. There are very few things that look like Katana.
I could openly carry a Katana on my hip if I felt the need to. I love the second amendment. Maryland law makes no distinction between knives and swords, which is curious.
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2012/10/18 05:43:52
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
Who's the guy who always comes into these threads to defend the police? Because I can't wait to see how he attempts to defend this.
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2012/10/18 09:24:41
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
dæl wrote: I think everyone who wanted the British Police armed should see this. I mean how difficult is it to work out that the blind, old guy is no threat?
I'm not disagreeing with you, though I would suggest that perhaps the officer in question would have proceeded with more caution if he was armed with a gun, as opposed to a 'non-lethal' weapon. He was confident that he wouldn't kill the guy, so it didn't matter as much if he made a mistake. Make sense?
dæl wrote: I think everyone who wanted the British Police armed should see this. I mean how difficult is it to work out that the blind, old guy is no threat?
I'm not disagreeing with you, though I would suggest that perhaps the officer in question would have proceeded with more caution if he was armed with a gun, as opposed to a 'non-lethal' weapon. He was confident that he wouldn't kill the guy, so it didn't matter as much if he made a mistake. Make sense?
Yeah, it makes sense, although in this instance and others involving elderly people it could very well prove lethal to use a taser. The officer should have been aware of such a risk, and if he hadn't have had a taser then would have had to resolve the situation in a more peaceful manner.
n0t_u wrote:Chavs are the reason that even though incidents like this may happen with idiots, they should still be armed nonetheless.
Or give them a police curling league.
The police don't need to be armed to deal with chavs, I can see the argument that police would need to be armed to deal with gang members, but chavs are just young idiots rather than a dangerous menace on society.
2012/10/18 10:01:17
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
dæl wrote: I think everyone who wanted the British Police armed should see this. I mean how difficult is it to work out that the blind, old guy is no threat?
I'm not disagreeing with you, though I would suggest that perhaps the officer in question would have proceeded with more caution if he was armed with a gun, as opposed to a 'non-lethal' weapon. He was confident that he wouldn't kill the guy, so it didn't matter as much if he made a mistake. Make sense?
Yeah, it makes sense, although in this instance and others involving elderly people it could very well prove lethal to use a taser. The officer should have been aware of such a risk, and if he hadn't have had a taser then would have had to resolve the situation in a more peaceful manner.
Agreed on all points. I was merely playing devil's advocate.
Bullockist wrote: This report has me worried about the observational abilities of officers, I mean a samurai sword, it's closer to a fencing foil!
Looks like a naginata to me. Taze him bro!
A naginata is a polearm, similar to a glaive. You're thinking of a shikomizue or possibly a shirasaya.
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Samus_aran115 wrote: I don't see how a mistake like that could be made. A katana is a distinctively broad, shiny object that tapers off just as distinctively to a distinctive point. There are very few things that look like Katana.
I could openly carry a Katana on my hip if I felt the need to. I love the second amendment. Maryland law makes no distinction between knives and swords, which is curious.
I love the Second Amendment too, however it has no bearing on long straight razors.
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2012/10/18 13:57:56
Subject: Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
Albatross wrote:I'm inclined to blame the old blind disabled guy, as per Dakka tradition. I suggest you do the same.
As far as we know, that heroic officer pre-emptively stopped some Zatoichi gak from going down.
Exactly. The blind samurai is among the most powerful warrior archetypes to ever exist. Being blind provides extra-sensory perception that a trained samurai can harness to perform impossible physical feats. This officer should be commended for the exemplary bravery he showed in attacking what he believed to be a blind samurai. He likely believed he was sacrificing himself in the hope that his attack would weaken the blind samurai enough for several hundred other officers to subdue the blind samurai before he killed the Queen (which is the only reason I can conceive for a blind samurai in feudal Japan to go through the bother of becoming immortal, traveling the world, and transferring his soul, or ki, into the husk of an elderly caucasian stroke victim).
2012/10/18 14:04:50
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/10/18 14:12:00
Subject: Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
Until it can be shown that the police officer did not believe himself in danger of decapitation in defense of the Queen of England, I am 100% in support of Officer McTazemebro's actions.
2012/10/18 14:33:21
Subject: Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
My wife bought me one of those as a present. I think she wants me to get tazed!
On a more serious note. I personally think Tazers allow officers to escalate things way to easily. If they had the choice of Billy Club or Gun, the officer would have spent more time considering his action before acting. Tazers just make it way to easy for a cop to Taze someone for little or no reason. Then, since it is "non-lethal" not really have to worry too much about the consequences of the decision to Taze.
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2012/10/18 14:38:48
Subject: Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
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Medium of Death wrote: I don't normally agree with Albatross, but it's really time to start blaming the victim.
Well that's typical DakkaDakka, BLAME THE VICTIM!
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2012/10/18 15:38:29
Subject: Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
So if you close your eyes, you can't tell the difference between police officers and street thugs? And if you open them, you can't tell the difference between a white stick and a katana?
Manchu wrote: So if you close your eyes, you can't tell the difference between police officers and street thugs? And if you open them, you can't tell the difference between a white stick and a katana?
Yes
Except one of them has an actual impairment, unless you consider being a Gamma semi-moron an impairment.
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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/10/18 16:02:39
Subject: Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
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2012/10/18 17:35:50
Subject: Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
2012/10/18 18:01:19
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
n0t_u wrote:At least get it right. See even comes with a pun by default.
I've already mane one Zatoichi reference, and Blind Fury is a remake of one of the earlier Zatoichi films anyway... and unlike the Japanese films, Blind Fury has a blind man taking down a bunch of cops, so it seemed more relevant.
2012/10/19 04:22:09
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
Albatross wrote: I'm not disagreeing with you, though I would suggest that perhaps the officer in question would have proceeded with more caution if he was armed with a gun, as opposed to a 'non-lethal' weapon. He was confident that he wouldn't kill the guy, so it didn't matter as much if he made a mistake. Make sense?
Yeah, and that's a strong argument put forward by people who are opposed to giving policemen tasers - when the weapon is 'non-lethal' police use them a lot more often, leading to instances where heart failure or the like causes them to actually be very lethal.
I'm not sure instances like this are reason enough to stop police having tasers, but it's certainly a good reason to review how freely they're used by officers, and how many of those instances are justified.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/10/19 04:28:51
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
n0t_u wrote:Chavs are the reason that even though incidents like this may happen with idiots, they should still be armed nonetheless.
Or give them a police curling league.
The police don't need to be armed to deal with chavs, I can see the argument that police would need to be armed to deal with gang members, but chavs are just young idiots rather than a dangerous menace on society.
The problem that we have in Bamber Bridge is that they mature into fully grown chavs....... And it gets worse as they grow.......
But in all honesty how you could mistake a blindstick for a katana or wakzeishi is beyond me..... Both forms are curved and extremely distinct...... Of course you could say a fencing foil but thats to short and also incredibly thin and wippy(kinky ) And any other sword is either to short or to distinct......
Something needs to be done here. Maybe incooperate something into the officers training
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2012/10/19 09:33:42
Subject: Re:Blind stroke victim tasered by police because his walking stick looked like 'a Samurai sword'
But in all honesty how you could mistake a blindstick for a katana or wakzeishi is beyond me..... Both forms are curved and extremely distinct...... Of course you could say a fencing foil but thats to short and also incredibly thin and wippy(kinky )
And any other sword is either to short or to distinct......
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