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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 11:38:47
Subject: Re:Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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As I have said, Orks can fall to Chaos. its just the the number of Orks actually falling to Chaos is so minimal as to be nonexistent seeing as their fellow Orks will kill them and Chaos Orks aren't that different from normal Orks other than being dirtier and gak.
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Stated by Grey Templar:The Ward of the Codices
"It began, with the writing of the Great Codices,
2 were given to the Eldar. Immortal, Capricious, and most farsighted of all,
2 also to Chaos. Traitorous, Deceitful, Servants of the Dark Gods,
3 to the Xenos races. T'au, Orks, and Necrons. the Young, the Beast, and the Spiteful,
7 to the race of men. Servents of the God Emperor, the Inheritors of the Galaxy.
But they were all of them, decieved. for another Codex was written…
In the Land of Ward'or, in the Fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Matthew wrote in secret, a Master Codex, to rule all the others. One by one, all the armies of the other Codices fell to the power of the Codex, and from this Darkness, none could see hope.
But there were some, who resisted. a Last Alliance of Men and Xenos took up arms against the forces of Ward'or and on the Slopes of Mount Doom they fought for the freedom of 40k." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 12:26:52
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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In bloodquest there was an ork warboss that was a daemon. So yes, da orks can get da chaos gubbins!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 13:04:15
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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flamingkillamajig wrote:Just because slaanesh wants to eat eldar doesn't mean they couldn't fall for different other chaos gods. Eldar corsairs and dark eldar are also less path based and even guardians as i said are just basically eldar civilians spending time in the military or aren't in any real set path (though they probably control their emotions more than corsairs/raiders and dark eldar). .
On the contrary, Guardians are on a Path - just not a military one. Most of them will be on the Path of the Artificer or the Path of the Artisan. The path system exists at every level of Eldar society. There's even a Path of the Janitor, although it's not called that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 22:25:52
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Calculating Commissar
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Perfect Organism wrote:burnaboy wrote:2. They don't give a damn about sensations, pleasure or pain (the little of it they can feel) and all that they just want to do is kill and dominate so that rules out Slaanesh.
Orks get pleasure from intoxicants, loud noises and the sensation of moving fast. The last one is actually so powerful to them that many orks end up as 'speed freaks', effectively addicted to driving about as quickly as possible.
Orks are also capable of sadism; taking pleasure from hurting, scaring and humiliating others (especially grots).
Exactly. It's slaanesh in a nutshell.
@Furyou Miko: The path of the janitor? You mean bonesingers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 22:31:22
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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There was something in a White Dwarf a few years back about nurgle orks.
I remember because I didn't care for the paint job at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 22:33:31
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Puke green, puke brown, and puke yellow?
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 22:51:09
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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They were a just like a green wash over snot green. No detail picked out.
If you were asking me Melissia
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 23:04:36
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Calculating Commissar
pontiac, michigan; usa
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Isn't that basically the ork color scheme already?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 01:00:07
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:They were a just like a green wash over snot green. No detail picked out.
If you were asking me Melissia
No, I was just making fun of the Plague Marines color scheme. It's not exactly a state secret that I dislike CSMs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 02:03:37
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Calculating Commissar
pontiac, michigan; usa
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I actually don't mind chaos marines. What i mind is how half of all 40k factions are space marines of some flavor or have +3 or power armor of some kind. In warhammer fantasy you can have bretonnian knights with like +2 armor saves and then you can have warriors of chaos which are generally +4 or +3 depending on the loadout. The best armor is always on crazy things like the steam tank or cavalry and you can only have very limited numbers of them. Also i feel like warriors of chaos are in general much better stat-wise and harder to kill than marines are in 40k. Ogres are also tough but they're kind of like an army of ogryns with somewhat weaker basic units with different abilities. I know it sounds odd but for me space marines and their infinite fan-base helps to ruin the game for me. Well that and the overly grim-dark nature that seems to forget humor like the orks. Meh at least fantasy has skaven, orcs & goblins, lizardmen names, an insane empire general and ogres for humor. Sure the humor is childish or sometimes dark but it's a nice change to grim-dark being jammed down your *ss every two seconds. Funny thing is the fantasy world is more screwed than the 40k galaxy i think and fantasy can be really dark.
However getting back to the point orks can be corrupted by chaos at least physically and perhaps to an extent mentally. I think orks could still be tainted but not in any sort of complicated way. I mean how hard would it be for a chaos god to fake an orky voice, pretend he's gork or mork and then tell the ork he'll give him a louder and therefore more powerful gun if he slaughters orks or any other race in his name?
@melissia: Btw you should really try warhammer fantasy. I wish some of the people i knew that played 40k got into fantasy. Just find a faction that fits your playstyle or interests and go for em. For now i like skaven but i will probably likely get into vampire counts and even beastmen if they get a new army book to replace their horrible one. That might be a long wait though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/16 05:51:10
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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BlaxicanX wrote:No it doesn't.
Name a codex where the Necrons get killed to a man. Imperial Guard codex. Any others?
Nope. That's why it's such a big deal.
Grey Knights codex, the Iori Delta Tove incident.
Space Marines codex, the World Engine incident. And the Battle of Malbede, defeated by Tau and Ultramarines, Tomb World destroyed.
The White Scars destroyed both a Necron Dynasty and an Ork Waaagh! at the same time in some WD issue in the Battle of Caradim.
And really, the Necrons rarely appear in most codices. But when they do, they usually lose. Except in Tyranid codex, admittedly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 19:57:01
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Crazed Cultist of Khorne
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They can especialy by khorne
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: : KILL MAIM BURN KILL MAIM BUUUUURRRRRN
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 23:48:40
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Been Around the Block
Manresa, Catalonia
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Orks are not corrupted by chaos.
If anything, orks enjoy a good measure of chaos because they get fun with it in one or another way. For example, stormboyz khorne mania... Exceptions are nothing but what confirms the norm.
But not corrupted. Remember Gork and Mork are the mightiest gods of 'em all.
BTW necrons are not a species. They are models, Like cars, you know. Maybe they can't be corrupted. But they can be possessed...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 00:33:04
Subject: Re:Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Mutating Changebringer
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Deamon Hunters in the section on why Grey Knights would fight against such and such a race.
Sorry if someone ninja'd me on this I was just happy someone posted that picture.
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xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:There was something in a White Dwarf a few years back about nurgle orks.
I remember because I didn't care for the paint job at all.
I was furious that WD put those pictures in!
They claimed the guy who was working on them "Had recently started the project" but a few years later there was another article that had them in the background, still unfinished and more of them.
On another note...
Why doesn't anyone seem to notice that Ork are already Chaos? The grow and "change", they are a perfect example of "life and death", they are the "princes of eccesive"" violence, and they live for spilling "blood".
Now that I think of it... doesn't that describe several races in 40k?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 01:39:50
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Lurking Gaunt
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Waaghboss Grobnub wrote:BlaxicanX wrote:Didn't prevent them from getting the gak kicked out of them by Daemons in the 6e 'dex, hohoho.
Necrons killed to a man by no-name daemons. Possibly the greatest part of that codex.
This always happens in codexes...
Like the marine codexes,.. they are presented to you as gods, never faltering, never surrendering and facing the most ridiculous of odds and then coming out on top.
And then take the Chaos codex,.. it is filled with Loyalist marines defeats making them look like grots.... Its fun and frustrating sometimes 
And the Tyranid codex, where we get out-adapted by Tau. Tau?! Really?!? Any other race wouldn't have bugged me but freaking Tau?! If you want the best source of Tyranid failures look no further than their codex! It hurts to be a Tyranid player.
OT: Orks rarely can be corrupted. But they can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 11:07:25
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Skillful Swordsman
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Yes they can be corrupted because in Ravenwing they ended up worshipping a Fallen at Port Imperial they set up a little shanty town there. It was quite interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 16:33:14
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Sword Of Caliban wrote:Yes they can be corrupted because in Ravenwing they ended up worshipping a Fallen at Port Imperial they set up a little shanty town there. It was quite interesting.
Wow, that's really stupid writing.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 16:45:15
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Orks aren't immune to diseases... or chemical poisons, which also works for Nurgle, according to IA 7
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 16:55:00
Subject: Re:Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ork Stormboy of Khorne.
Ork Mutant.
Ork Chaos Champion.
BEHOLD!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 16:55:03
Subject: Re:Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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I assumed that Gork and Mork are aspects of Khorne, in the same way Khaine is. Blessings manifest as increased size and strength, and the ability to command the loyalty of the weak... Sounds fairly Khornate to me.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:If 40K has Future Rifles, and Future Tanks, and Future Artillery, and Future Airplanes and Future Grenades and Future Bombs, then contextually Future Swords seem somewhat questionable to use, since it means crossing Future Open Space to get Future Shot At.
Polonius wrote:I categorically reject any statement that there is such a thing as too much boob.
Coolyo294 wrote:Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 17:04:29
Subject: Re:Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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4oursword wrote:I assumed that Gork and Mork are aspects of Khorne, in the same way Khaine is. Blessings manifest as increased size and strength, and the ability to command the loyalty of the weak... Sounds fairly Khornate to me.
You... Zogging... What........?
No. You are incorrectly assuming. Cease this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 17:05:34
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Waaghboss Grobnub wrote:But to me it seemed they did only get infected with a horrible curse/desease like a human can get a disease... Its not like they were actually converted to worship Nurgle at that point..
Other then this i have never seen any piece of text that actualy said Orks worhipping a chaos god. If an Ork fights for chaos,.. IMO,.. its probably because they came with a good deal, rumour etc.
If the ork doesn't worship Nurgle, why has he gone to the time and effort of emblazoning Nurgle's emblem on his shoulderpad instead of something more orky?
By your rationale one could argue that the Death Guard also don't worship Nurgle since they are just honouring the 'good deal' of paying Nurgle homage so he won't let them die of the virulent plague that afflicted them during the heresy (that's pretty much how Nurgle gets most of his worshippers).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 17:05:59
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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If Gork and Mork are aspects of Khorne, then Khorne loves beating himself up, because they beat the gak out of the chaos gods regularly.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 17:21:26
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In the new chaos marine codex the timeline has an entry about nurgle orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/30 20:05:55
Subject: Hypothetically can Orks be Corrupted by chaos?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Sword Of Caliban wrote:Yes they can be corrupted because in Ravenwing they ended up worshipping a Fallen at Port Imperial they set up a little shanty town there. It was quite interesting.
Hahahahahahahah, Gav Thorpe, you sly dog.
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