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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 23:03:56
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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I've had one finecast model, a Techmarine, and GW sent me a replacement axe because a bubble destroyed part of the detail.
GW do have good customer service, but in 15 years the only problem I've had with metal was the original Emperor's Champion that looked like the mould split shifted a little during casting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 23:49:47
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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I have gotten about 10 - 15 finecast models so far they have all been in great shape.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/19 23:51:00
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Bought one
disappointed but kept the item.
will basically never buy finecast again.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/20 17:25:29
Subject: Re:Finecast return rate
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Torture Victim in the Bowels of the Rock
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Looks like im in the have been really lucky category as well. Havent had a single problem with finecast so far. Bought maybe 6 models in it r, all SM HQs, 2 chaplains, sammael and a 3 librarians w/ various weapons and haven't had a single real issue yet, sure had to heat & straighten a few bent weapons but thats it so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/20 17:42:14
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Dakka Veteran
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I've had one model in Finecast, a librarian I gave up sending it back after the 4th one...
First 3 were air bubbles the last the axe snapped putting into a kr multicase and that's were I gave up, what angered me the most is when I took the second back to GW they then tried to sell me liquid green stuff to fix it!
I won't touch it now and will rather kitbash to acheive what I want.
I also beleave a lot of it will come down to what people accept and are prepaired to repair, for me £8 - £11 a single model it has to be perfect, more so now the normal plastic is so good. My other issue is that it was sold to us as being cheaper than metal and the prices went up, If the prices went up because they are more detailed and better then I would of accepted the increase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/21 12:22:59
Subject: Finecast return rate
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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I voted for 0 returned.
But, of the 7 single-model and a 2x 5-pack sets I have, 5 of the bosses have had issues.
Just niggles, and I filled in a few of them, but I didn't catch them all. All of the 5 with bubbles still have some. I just gave up filling them and got on with painting them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/21 13:07:53
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Masculine Male Wych
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I bought some incubi from GW store and they opened the pack for me to check if they were ok, there were two models that had defects, so they opened up another pack and swapped the models for me. (swords have since become very bendy, but they look ok)
I also got imotek and he was mostly fine, a small piece of his cloak had broken off, but it actually looked quite good like that.
I've bought two haemonculi, they were both fine (although I think the tip of one of fingers had broken off)
I've also got a box of harliquins and a farseer and warlock box and they were fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/22 10:35:24
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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Only just noticed a few annoying flaws in my Jump Chaplain. Bah! While Finecast can be nice IF it is flawless, they really ought to hurry up and go all plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 18:06:32
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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I'm glad it's turned into a nice smooth curve
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 18:39:19
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Well the poll options are inherently flawed.
The results will be skewed towards those that have only purchased one finecast model and did not return it, as there is only one poll option for that situation.
Where those that have bought several finecast have a few options to select from.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 19:27:47
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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DeathReaper wrote:
Well the poll options are inherently flawed.
The results will be skewed towards those that have only purchased one finecast model and did not return it, as there is only one poll option for that situation.
Where those that have bought several finecast have a few options to select from.
Whereas if I purched one and returned it, it'd skew towards "all of them". The fact that it *is* such a neat bell curve is pretty indicative that the question is *not* flawed actually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 19:45:09
Subject: Finecast return rate
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The Hive Mind
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My Hive Guards (3) have had one small fixable issue (leg was bubbly but trivial for even me to fix) and a missing toe (which I just dealt with). I could've returned it but didn't open the blister until 3 months after I bought it and lost the receipt.
I have 1 metal TFC with no issues (and wasn't that bad to put together despite the horror stories) and have 2 Finecast ones on the way... We'll see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 19:46:44
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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I wish i sent mine back, but i didn't and now i have a few incubi with bent/broken swords (they look a lot less intimidating...), Eldrad with a bet staff and an archon who had a bubbly hand and wonkey sword. Although i did convert my archon with other stuff.
My Halequins weren't bad, but they weren't great. at any rate, i dont like finecast, and if i had the choice i'd buy a non finecast then a finecast model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 20:22:08
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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BryllCream wrote: DeathReaper wrote: Well the poll options are inherently flawed. The results will be skewed towards those that have only purchased one finecast model and did not return it, as there is only one poll option for that situation. Where those that have bought several finecast have a few options to select from.
Whereas if I purched one and returned it, it'd skew towards "all of them". The fact that it *is* such a neat bell curve is pretty indicative that the question is *not* flawed actually.
The Poll is flawed and skewed. Purchasing one and not returning it does not mean there was nothing wrong with it.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 20:29:19
Subject: Re:Finecast return rate
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Lurking Gaunt
Its bigger than a breadbox
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I bought 2 hive guards and a zoanthrope. 1 guard had a bit of flash. No problems until I bought a iron priest. He had a couple holes in him and his hammer was bent. Fixed the hammer pretty easily (Hot water does wonders!). So no complaints.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 20:31:14
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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DeathReaper wrote: BryllCream wrote: DeathReaper wrote:
Well the poll options are inherently flawed.
The results will be skewed towards those that have only purchased one finecast model and did not return it, as there is only one poll option for that situation.
Where those that have bought several finecast have a few options to select from.
Whereas if I purched one and returned it, it'd skew towards "all of them". The fact that it *is* such a neat bell curve is pretty indicative that the question is *not* flawed actually.
The Poll is flawed and skewed.
Purchasing one and not returning it does n2ot mean there was nothing wrong with it.
If you want to know how many people had "flaws" in their models, go ahead and make your own poll. I deliberately phrased the question to mean that the product was so flawed that it was nessesary to return it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 20:34:39
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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and even some people that get models that "was so flawed that it was nessesary to return it." Still did not return the models. Plus return vs not return, at least in the skewed poll, is really close. 52-48%
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 21:35:29
Subject: Re:Finecast return rate
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
Scotland
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Only bought one blister, a sslyth because I couldn't think of a good enough conversion. It was bubbled but only on the parts you didn't see when assembled on the table so i kept it. I did drop it once and it was completely fine so I suppose that's something to be said for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 22:25:31
Subject: Re:Finecast return rate
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Gotten a few finecasts (Techie with servitors, termie libby and a Jump pack chappy)and a few Resin odds and ends from FW, only had issues with the libby. the arm molded into the figure had snapped off and he was missing his combi-plasmagun. Returned it and the second looked pretty awesome. Other than that just some mold lines nothing serious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/24 22:37:40
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Incubus
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Every finecast commission I've done, I had to spend more time correcting the cast or reorder parts. Personally I don't buy anything finecast. The only redeeming quality about it is that larger models, Like OK Gorgers are lighter and easier to handle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/25 04:26:28
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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DeathReaper wrote:
Plus return vs not return, at least in the skewed poll, is really close. 52-48%
Pretty sure it safely debunks the notion of "finecrap". Not that I like finecast since it's expensive and breaks laughably easy for something that should be designed to be used and handled in a tabletop game. But I've never had any problem with the actual quality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/25 05:24:37
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I've gotten a few with warped swords and bubbles. I didn't return them though...  should have. I miss the days when if you had a warped sword you could just bend it back a bit and it would stay because it was metal. (or pewter, whatever)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/25 05:27:33
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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BryllCream wrote: DeathReaper wrote: Plus return vs not return, at least in the skewed poll, is really close. 52-48%
Pretty sure it safely debunks the notion of "finecrap". Not that I like finecast since it's expensive and breaks laughably easy for something that should be designed to be used and handled in a tabletop game. But I've never had any problem with the actual quality.
Really? 48% of the people in the poll (If the poll is accurate) have had issues and returned the product. That is just under half of the people that voted had issues. If businesses ran like that they would be out of business. (Or have a base price of their products high enough to offset all of the replacement products they will have to give out to make those customers happy). Failcrap indeed.
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 00:36:51
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Awful. I've had three belials and three asmodais. I won't be buying anymore failcast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 01:24:00
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Huge Hierodule
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I've spent most of a year not buying a Dark Apostle because I've yet to see one with an acceptable cast quality. I've spent most of a year not bothering with the long task of fixing a Warpsmith with a wonky drill, crooked axe and numerous bubbles. I've basically not even bothered considering various nice-to-haves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 04:48:40
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Regular Dakkanaut
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None. i gave them to a new guy who doesn't know the score on Failcast
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 11:45:29
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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BryllCream wrote:I find it...odd that 50% of people have had no problems at all with finecast, but 10% of people have had a problem with every single pack.
I mean, it's unusual for so many people to be that unlucky isn't it? Surely if Finecast were as flawed as it is for them, it would be as flawed for everyone else? So why do so many people have so few problems with it?
I think you know exactly what the answer to this question is...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 11:59:35
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Xenocidal Maniac wrote: BryllCream wrote:I find it...odd that 50% of people have had no problems at all with finecast, but 10% of people have had a problem with every single pack.
I mean, it's unusual for so many people to be that unlucky isn't it? Surely if Finecast were as flawed as it is for them, it would be as flawed for everyone else? So why do so many people have so few problems with it?
I think you know exactly what the answer to this question is...
They accept inferior quality? If i buy something expensive like Finecast then i fully expect no less than near perfection. A few small bubbles or a bent sword? Perhaps but anything worse and the miniature goes back to GW. So far i had the dubious pleasure of ordering a Dark Apostle and a Farseer. Both were of such a bad quality that any attempt to paint them well would have been wasted, so i sent them back.
I won't be buying anymore Finecast until i can be certain that it meets my expectations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 12:17:27
Subject: Finecast return rate
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KingDeath wrote: Xenocidal Maniac wrote: BryllCream wrote:I find it...odd that 50% of people have had no problems at all with finecast, but 10% of people have had a problem with every single pack.
I mean, it's unusual for so many people to be that unlucky isn't it? Surely if Finecast were as flawed as it is for them, it would be as flawed for everyone else? So why do so many people have so few problems with it?
I think you know exactly what the answer to this question is...
They accept inferior quality?
Since you're asking me to clarify -
It's that 10% of the internet (now actually 7% according to the poll) pisses and moans incessantly and makes it seem like a bigger problem than it really is. Vocal minority, and all that.
72% of respondents to this poll don't seem to have the problems that you 7% do. Ergo, problem is with you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/26 12:29:11
Subject: Finecast return rate
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Xenocidal Maniac wrote:KingDeath wrote: Xenocidal Maniac wrote: BryllCream wrote:I find it...odd that 50% of people have had no problems at all with finecast, but 10% of people have had a problem with every single pack.
I mean, it's unusual for so many people to be that unlucky isn't it? Surely if Finecast were as flawed as it is for them, it would be as flawed for everyone else? So why do so many people have so few problems with it?
I think you know exactly what the answer to this question is...
They accept inferior quality?
Since you're asking me to clarify -
It's that 10% of the internet (now actually 7% according to the poll) pisses and moans incessantly and makes it seem like a bigger problem than it really is. Vocal minority, and all that.
72% of respondents to this poll don't seem to have the problems that you 7% do. Ergo, problem is with you.
You are aware that your logic is flawed because the so called 7% ( actualy 29% seem to have regular problems with their Finecast products ) you mentioned are in no way able to influence the quality of the Finecast products they bought? So either 29% of the Finecast buyers are exceptionaly unlucky or 71% simply have less rigid quality standards.
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