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Best and Glorious Leader is busy finding victims to brame after the foiling of his latest plot to drown the Capitalist Round-Eyes and their Worst Korean co-conspirators in sea of fire.
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Cheesecat wrote:What makes North Korea so interesting that there needs to be another topic on it? There's already over a fething million threads about North Korea already, what can be said about the country that's hasn't been said before? We get it, North Korea isn't a nice place to live and is silly we don't
need anymore threads stating the same gak over and over again, the fething internet and it's obsession with this nation it just baffles me.
Yeah, we should find a way to turn this into a gun thread.
Well at least that subject has some impact on the US's society, which is where the majority of Dakka's posters are from although I tend to find those gun threads boring as well but for some reason I've been more invested in them recently.
We are very sorry about posting about things happening outside of the continent of North America. We are aware some of you still believe you are the only slab of land on this flat square of a world.
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Cheesecat wrote:What makes North Korea so interesting that there needs to be another topic on it? There's already over a fething million threads about North Korea already, what can be said about the country that's hasn't been said before? We get it, North Korea isn't a nice place to live and is silly we don't
need anymore threads stating the same gak over and over again, the fething internet and it's obsession with this nation it just baffles me.
Yeah, we should find a way to turn this into a gun thread.
Well at least that subject has some impact on the US's society, which is where the majority of Dakka's posters are from although I tend to find those gun threads boring as well but for some reason I've been more invested in them recently.
We are very sorry about posting about things happening outside of the continent of North America. We are aware some of you still believe you are the only slab of land on this flat square of a world.
Oddly enough, your comment about NA is directed at a Canadian, and not an American... never saw that coming.
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Cheesecat wrote:What makes North Korea so interesting that there needs to be another topic on it? There's already over a fething million threads about North Korea already, what can be said about the country that's hasn't been said before? We get it, North Korea isn't a nice place to live and is silly we don't
need anymore threads stating the same gak over and over again, the fething internet and it's obsession with this nation it just baffles me.
Yeah, we should find a way to turn this into a gun thread.
Well at least that subject has some impact on the US's society, which is where the majority of Dakka's posters are from although I tend to find those gun threads boring as well but for some reason I've been more invested in them recently.
We are very sorry about posting about things happening outside of the continent of North America. We are aware some of you still believe you are the only slab of land on this flat square of a world.
Oddly enough, your comment about NA is directed at a Canadian, and not an American... never saw that coming.
Pretty sure Canada is part of the continent of NA...
Cheesecat wrote:What makes North Korea so interesting that there needs to be another topic on it? There's already over a fething million threads about North Korea already, what can be said about the country that's hasn't been said before? We get it, North Korea isn't a nice place to live and is silly we don't
need anymore threads stating the same gak over and over again, the fething internet and it's obsession with this nation it just baffles me.
Yeah, we should find a way to turn this into a gun thread.
Well at least that subject has some impact on the US's society, which is where the majority of Dakka's posters are from although I tend to find those gun threads boring as well but for some reason I've been more invested in them recently.
We are very sorry about posting about things happening outside of the continent of North America. We are aware some of you still believe you are the only slab of land on this flat square of a world.
It has nothing to do with posting about things outside of North America, my complaint is about how talking about North Korea isn't very interesting unless something actually drastic happens rather than the usual comments about how big of a joke North Korea or how horrible it is to live
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Meh, more like we don't care about other countries existing. We know they're there, we just don't care.
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Kim-Jong Un is a far smarter man than he is given credit for in the US media. He gets more respect elsewhere.
Besides lot of the current round of bile looks like its going to backfire The US has tried to muscle on him for a while now, and tried to get China to rein them in also, and clearly the North Koreans don't give a rodents rectum, and China have sat back and smirked. Then the North Koreans have made vacuous counter threats that have provoked Washington into make various cease and desist warnings that the North Korean government laughs off, while other countries have been invaded for less, and now suddenly all these fat jokes turn up.
It's looking like 'if we cant bully him poke fun at him', and it looks petty and juvenile. Kim-Jong Un is here to stay and he is stable enough not to try to nuke America.
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Orlanth wrote: Kim-Jong Un is a far smarter man than he is given credit for in the US media. He gets more respect elsewhere.
Besides lot of the current round of bile looks like its going to backfire The US has tried to muscle on him for a while now, and tried to get China to rein them in also, and clearly the North Koreans don't give a rodents rectum, and China have sat back and smirked. Then the North Koreans have made vacuous counter threats that have provoked Washington into make various cease and desist warnings that the North Korean government laughs off, while other countries have been invaded for less, and now suddenly all these fat jokes turn up.
It's looking like 'if we cant bully him poke fun at him', and it looks petty and juvenile. Kim-Jong Un is here to stay and he is stable enough not to try to nuke America.
Of course his big threat to launch a rocket in early April. Did you see how awesome it was? Oh wait, nothing happened...
he did manage to tiuck off South Korea and lse a major source of cash income from the combined plant/camp thing. That hasn't restarted. Smooth move jackass.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Orlanth wrote: Kim-Jong Un is a far smarter man than he is given credit for in the US media. He gets more respect elsewhere.
Besides lot of the current round of bile looks like its going to backfire The US has tried to muscle on him for a while now, and tried to get China to rein them in also, and clearly the North Koreans don't give a rodents rectum, and China have sat back and smirked. Then the North Koreans have made vacuous counter threats that have provoked Washington into make various cease and desist warnings that the North Korean government laughs off, while other countries have been invaded for less, and now suddenly all these fat jokes turn up.
It's looking like 'if we cant bully him poke fun at him', and it looks petty and juvenile. Kim-Jong Un is here to stay and he is stable enough not to try to nuke America.
If he's so smart, why is his country still so poor and why did he shut down one of the only sources of hard currency in the country?
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he did manage to tiuck off South Korea and lse a major source of cash income from the combined plant/camp thing. That hasn't restarted. Smooth move jackass.
Smooth move indeed, the last thing North Korea actually wants is joint programs with South Korea, no matter the gains. His regime requires isolation to work, South Korean workers quietly telling North Korean workers that the grass really is so much greener wont help the regime.
The preferred partner is China for all ventures.
If he's so smart, why is his country still so poor and why did he shut down one of the only sources of hard currency in the country?
Kim Jong Un is not personally responsible for the poverty of North Korea, blame is ancestors for that. From all accounts he is trying to move forward and is making progress, but will only make controlled moves lest control be lost.
The incumbent 'Glorious Leader' is playing a clever hand, its profiting him, his regime and China. He will move forwards for the people as and when it doesn't conflict with any of those.
Don't pretend the West cares about the North Koreans, there are other places just as bad, Zimbabwe for instance, yet the West is doing precious little to help the people or remove the Mugabe regime; and unlike North Korea the Chinese won't care to make any moves if ever we did, so nothing is stopping us but apathy and a lack of oil.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
1. Then maybe they should have made moves that they were going to shoot one off. Now they just look stupid.
2.. NK needs hard currency. This is a major loss for them.
3. I don't pretend the West cares. I'm fine if the Space Klowns come and they disappear utterly from the earth.
Its not profiting him. He's lost hard currency generators. His standing has fallen, his great host is making statements that have caused him to lose face, and he hasn't shaken the tightened embargo. At this point he might not even be in charge.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Frazzled wrote: 1. Then maybe they should have made moves that they were going to shoot one off. Now they just look stupid.
2.. NK needs hard currency. This is a major loss for them.
3. I don't pretend the West cares. I'm fine if the Space Klowns come and they disappear utterly from the earth.
Its not profiting him. He's lost hard currency generators. His standing has fallen, his great host is making statements that have caused him to lose face, and he hasn't shaken the tightened embargo. At this point he might not even be in charge.
Actually the US is looking stupid. Threats were made of strict censure and have come to nothing.
Saddam Hussein had WMD, complied and got rid of them then was invaded on the rumour of having more.
Kim Jung Il when questioned about his nukes during the Dubya years said he was making some, and when the US threatened action over it promised to build rockets too. More threats occurred, Kim Jong Un kept with the program and launched the rockets anyway.
What is the US doing is essentially saying, "Mr Kim Jong Un, you are very naughty for launching long range rockets capable of reaching the US while possessing nuclear weapons, if you don't stop your program we might call you naughty again."
The message is loud and clear, especially when held in comparison to the US's track record of comparable threats and developments - China holds the balance of power in the region, not the US.
While China is the puppetmaster the North Korean government also profits. Their real problem is not the hunger or the rhetoric but threat of enticement to revolt amongst the brainwashed populace, as always this is the real threat to Communism. A hostile White House is not a threat, in fact its an external enemy which helps the regime, any comment of censure Washington makes only gives ammo to the regime to point out the foreign capitalist boogeyman.
North Korea wants to introduce mobile phones next year, social media is a major security problem for centralised regimes, but deals can be made. The true threat to the Communist party is infiltration by media, not threats. The US cant afford an invasion but can afford to subvert the North Koreans by pointing out how gak life is there and making mealy mouthed promises of how much better things would be if there was a civil war.
Remember Bay of Pigs? After that Kruschev put nukes on Cuba, the US had a hissy fit and they were withdrawn. At face value the Soviets backed down, but the quiet concessions for doing so tell a different story. First was the complete removal of nuclear missile bases from Turkey (which had given the US identical launch characteristics to Russia that Cuba did to the US east coast) and more relevant as total cessation of activities to remove the revolutionary regime, which was why Cubas needed armed support to begin with. Up until the Cuban Missile crisis the US tried media incursion and military incursion to rid Cuba of communism, after the deal between Kennedy and Kruschev this stopped cold, and never restarted. To the US lasting credit they kept their side of the bargain even after the fall of the Soviet Union. Cuba still has communism, and still has Castro after a fashion.
I think that Kim Jong Un is holding out for the big payoff, something similar to what Cuba has. A promise of no intervention direct or indirect. Seoul wont like this but China is the big dog there and Kim Jong Un has played a brinkmanship game with timing and gravitas and big balls allowing for what he is up against. He has every chance of getting what he wants.
As for his domestic record, life in parts of North Korea are improving, there is a long way to go especially in rural areas but Pyongyang is nowhere near as backward as it was when Kim Jong Un took over, the regime is trying genuine attempts at infrastructure development under government auspice. Key to this are large scale building projects, long understood as one of the few areas in which a centralised authoritarian government is actually an economic benefit compared to the free market model. Kim Jong Il liked to issue vacuous claims that he invented pretty much everything. Kim Jong Un is considerably more practical, instead he is securing his legacy by building things for real instead and frankly the projects are innovative, imaginative and workable. It's a solid policy, from the point of view of working with the material available to him.
Don't underestimate this clever and capable man, he is not the podgy little idiot some people prefer to make him out to be.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
No a solid policy would be to follow the well worn China/Vietnam plan. Open up industry. Plus the government lapdogs all get rich.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Well...back in the day...China PM did say "to get rich is glorious" and unleashed China Economy and Jet Li on the world.
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Jihadin wrote: Well...back in the day...China PM did say "to get rich is glorious" and unleashed China Economy and Jet Li on the world.
And where Jet LI leads, you follow, OR GET BOOT TO HEAD!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
To the US lasting credit they kept their side of the bargain even after the fall of the Soviet Union. Cuba still has communism, and still has Castro after a fashion.
The US didn't so much keep their side of the bargain as it stopped caring about Cuba, outside of Presidential politics anyway. After all, lots of the many Cubans living in Florida have a generational distaste for the Castro regime.
I think that Kim Jong Un is holding out for the big payoff, something similar to what Cuba has. A promise of no intervention direct or indirect.
I think Kim Jong Un is more concerned with domestic political matters than he is with international ones as the no longer such a thing as promise of no indirect intervention.
Hell, indirect intervention has already started.
Frazzled wrote: No a solid policy would be to follow the well worn China/Vietnam plan. Open up industry. Plus the government lapdogs all get rich.
Assuming they don't get shot.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
What a freaking horror show Red Dawn (NEW) was......
Should have just left it alone.....
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Shadowseer_Kim wrote: What we really need to do.. is co-ordinate a Dakka trip to North Korea. Who's in? I can think of a few places I actually would want to see.
Nah I hear their hotels and restaurants are absolutely terrible.
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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Indeed, I am not paying $60 for a potato. I don't care if its served on fine china.
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My uncle came back from NK flying rodent gak crazy. No thanks.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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Right, hence why I say we nuke the site from orbit.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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So what you're saying is, Chaos has begun to grow?
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Frazzled wrote: My uncle came back from NK flying rodent gak crazy. No thanks.
Was he there in the early 50s?
The Chosin Few. Frazzled Sr. was a year later.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
