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 Goat wrote:
 Ailaros wrote:
So, I just sat down and did a few rolls as if I'd payed 100 points for 10 gifts of mutation.

The end result is absurd.

The first time, the lord or sorcerer in question got a rerollable 2+ armor save, eternal warrior, instant death, shred, poison, FNP, and a big pile of other goodies (+1WS and BS, +1 deny the witch, etc.)

Just think about that for a moment. A WS6/7 model with a weapon that is poisoned, and rerolls to wound on that poison, and if any of the attacks stick, they cause instant death. On a model with EW and a rerollable 2+ armor save. And if it's a sorcerer, invisibility and psychic shriek. Holy heck.

The next time I did it, it was worse, but still absurd, getting +2S, hatred, and ID, among other abilities. The third time I practically died laughing. The second of my rolls was for +D3+1 more rolls (something that you've got like a 1/3rd chance of getting with 10 tries), and in those 4 extra rolls, one of them was ALSO for extra rolls. It's like asking a genie for more wishes.

Is it worth the 100 points? I don't know, but I almost think it's a viable strategy. You basically take a ~220 point model, and he comprehensively butchers anything he touches.

The only problem I can see is that the more dice you roll, the greater your odds of getting a duplicate. In each of my three attempts I rolled a gift that can't make use of duplicates (like shred or adamantium will or icy aura) more than once. That said, there ARE some things like +WS and +S that DO stack...




Yeah I just posted in YMDC to see what people think if it's possible. I mean the HQs don't have a restriction on the # of gifts they can purchase like a warp talon bro or normal champion. I'd think if they say you can't buy more than 2 gifts, how can you purchase 2 lightning claws since (pair) isn't an option if my memory serves.


You can only have one gift it is specifically stated on the armory:

"A model can take up to one of each of the following:"

On topic the 10 point isn't worth it, there is more than 50% of not getting something useful, every 11-16 rolls are lost. It is better to add that dirge caster you missed, 2 meltabombs, dozer blades to avoid those critical 1's there are lots of stuff worth 5pts or less, hell even give your captains 3 combi-bolters would be a better choice than a roll on that death trap

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So it's been a while since i posted this thread. i've played a few games since, always taking GoM on everyone that could take it.
literally the most powerful my army has been.
my possessed got 64, TWICE
my possessed champion ended up with: +1W , reroll armour saves , FNP , EW and a ranged weapon gained +1S
but i still had four good ones BEFORE the battle on ONE model!

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 bmward105 wrote:
So it's been a while since i posted this thread. i've played a few games since, always taking GoM on everyone that could take it.
literally the most powerful my army has been.
my possessed got 64, TWICE
my possessed champion ended up with: +1W , reroll armour saves , FNP , EW and a ranged weapon gained +1S
but i still had four good ones BEFORE the battle on ONE model!


it's very boom or bust. Lots of bust
consider that you rolled the best possible boon(multiple boons) and that you got max boons for that.
Then look,
EW was only useful because you got +1 wound
+1 strength to the range weapon was useless because possessed have no ranged weapons.

considering you had nearly the best case, and still half of the stuff was not of any use is telling. Your 36 point champion with 20 points of wargear was
WS4 BS4 Str5 T4 W2 I4 A3 Ld 10 3+/5++ reroll saves FNP EW with some random weapons. I dont see that as being all that great even.

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Much like Chaos itself, it is a hit and miss proposition. I use it on my lords, daemon prince, and terminator champions. It is actually one of the most fun parts of playing Chaos for me.
   
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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
Much like Chaos itself, it is a hit and miss proposition. I use it on my lords, daemon prince, and terminator champions. It is actually one of the most fun parts of playing Chaos for me.

i love the randomness to it, and as a tzeentch player, crazy weird mutations are a bit of a turn on for me...

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 Exergy wrote:

it is not worth 10 points. Over half the results are worthless, half of what is left is worth 5 points at best. You then have some nice things but it is extremely boom or bust. (EW on a 1 wound model, ID/fleshbane on a powerfist, etc)


This is truth. Its not worth it in competitive play.
   
 
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