| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 13:44:18
Subject: Re:Cheating or just a lot of game changing mistakes?
|
 |
Cosmic Joe
|
|
Also, check out my history blog: Minimum Wage Historian, a fun place to check out history that often falls between the couch cushions. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 13:47:55
Subject: Cheating or just a lot of game changing mistakes?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
|
Looking at my codex, and assuming bare minimum sized units, the first list is correct.
The second list has the Havocs as two units, but the price is for one. I'm not sure what he's done with the price for the Noise Marines in the second list, as the difference between codex and his list doesn't cleanly divide into identical options for both units at a glance. Actually, I take that back. There are a couple of Champion Upgrades that would be effective, cleanly take care of the points deficit, and possibly not have come up in game so you wouldn't necessarily notice.
His list looks to have some terrible math errors. Specifically, even assuming his unit totals are correct, his list total is missing the cost of his Lord. But his unit totals are also incorrect, and he hasn't paid for the second Havoc Squad. So whether by malice or incompetence he's failed to pay for his Lord and a unit of Havocs.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/07 13:58:22
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 19:09:26
Subject: Cheating or just a lot of game changing mistakes?
|
 |
Rapacious Razorwing
Texas
|
Chrysis wrote:Looking at my codex, and assuming bare minimum sized units, the first list is correct.
The second list has the Havocs as two units, but the price is for one. I'm not sure what he's done with the price for the Noise Marines in the second list, as the difference between codex and his list doesn't cleanly divide into identical options for both units at a glance. Actually, I take that back. There are a couple of Champion Upgrades that would be effective, cleanly take care of the points deficit, and possibly not have come up in game so you wouldn't necessarily notice.
His list looks to have some terrible math errors. Specifically, even assuming his unit totals are correct, his list total is missing the cost of his Lord. But his unit totals are also incorrect, and he hasn't paid for the second Havoc Squad. So whether by malice or incompetence he's failed to pay for his Lord and a unit of Havocs.
are you using 6th edition codex?
|
Dark Eldar 1-1-1 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 19:17:07
Subject: Cheating or just a lot of game changing mistakes?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
SeabassMcGrath wrote:Need someone with a Chaos codex to check these's lists as I don't have the Chaos dex.One is from my teammate and the other is from the guy who played chaos.
Chaos Lord w/ Mark of Slaanesh 80pts
2x Noise Marines w/ 1 Blastmaster 250pts
2x Havoics w 4 Lascannons 310pts
Point Total: 630pts
Chaos Lord w/Mark of Slaanesh-80pts
2x Noise Marines w/1 Blastmaster each-330pts total
2x Havocs with 4 Lascannons-155 total
Point total-485
As you can see the totals for the same armies are...different to put it smoothly. again, I don't have the Codex so I can't tell, it's all second hand information from only two people so I could use a third opinion/set of eyes if you will to figure out the ACTUAL point total for:
Chaos Lord w/ Mark of Slaanesh
2xSquads of Noise Marines each with 1 Blastmaster
2x Squads of Havocs each with 4 Lascannons
Thanks for your time!!
Havocs squads with Lascannons are 155 points EACH. Not 155 for 2 of them.
5 Noise Marines with a Blast Master is 125. Two such squads cost 250.
That army list should be:
Chaos Lord w/ MoS: 80
5 Noise Marines w/ Blast Master: 125
5 Noise Marines w/ Blast Master: 125
5 Havocs w/ 4 Lascannons: 155
5 Havocs w/ 4 Lascannons: 155
Total: 640 points.
Looks like none of you know how to add.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 19:24:28
Subject: Cheating or just a lot of game changing mistakes?
|
 |
Rapacious Razorwing
Texas
|
NuggzTheNinja wrote:SeabassMcGrath wrote:Need someone with a Chaos codex to check these's lists as I don't have the Chaos dex.One is from my teammate and the other is from the guy who played chaos.
Chaos Lord w/ Mark of Slaanesh 80pts
2x Noise Marines w/ 1 Blastmaster 250pts
2x Havoics w 4 Lascannons 310pts
Point Total: 630pts
Chaos Lord w/Mark of Slaanesh-80pts
2x Noise Marines w/1 Blastmaster each-330pts total
2x Havocs with 4 Lascannons-155 total
Point total-485
As you can see the totals for the same armies are...different to put it smoothly. again, I don't have the Codex so I can't tell, it's all second hand information from only two people so I could use a third opinion/set of eyes if you will to figure out the ACTUAL point total for:
Chaos Lord w/ Mark of Slaanesh
2xSquads of Noise Marines each with 1 Blastmaster
2x Squads of Havocs each with 4 Lascannons
Thanks for your time!!
Havocs squads with Lascannons are 155 points EACH. Not 155 for 2 of them.
5 Noise Marines with a Blast Master is 125. Two such squads cost 250.
That army list should be:
Chaos Lord w/ MoS: 80
5 Noise Marines w/ Blast Master: 125
5 Noise Marines w/ Blast Master: 125
5 Havocs w/ 4 Lascannons: 155
5 Havocs w/ 4 Lascannons: 155
Total: 640 points.
Looks like none of you know how to add.
Dude you just pwnd 3 people at once...I'm not even mad. but for real, thanks for the input
|
Dark Eldar 1-1-1 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/07 23:18:55
Subject: Cheating or just a lot of game changing mistakes?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
|
To be fair, I didn't actually check the combined total for the first list. I assumed that, given he managed to present the unit totals correctly and was doing so to double check someone elses work, he had also managed to add them up correctly. My mistake.
If I had to guess, the Noise Marines also include an Icon of Excess and something else, maybe a Gift of Mutation for the Champion. Did they have Feel no Pain?
In which case, rather than cheating I'd actually lean towards him being hideously disorganised, and while going back and forth modifying bits of his list he manages to skip over the cost of a unit of Havocs and his Lord. At these points levels I'd think it unlikely, but certainly not impossible.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 02:39:33
Subject: Cheating or just a lot of game changing mistakes?
|
 |
Boom! Leman Russ Commander
New Zealand
|
Now that I see the totals for those Noisemarine squads I wonder how he is confused about sonic blasters, they cost extra and he hasn't paid for them. So hopefully he isn't using them against you.
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/08/08 02:42:16
5000 |
|
|
 |
 |
|
|