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Anything with an AV and uses the hullpoint and damage chart system.

 HerbaciousT wrote:

 conker249 wrote:
Dais of destruction is bare minimum 530 points. Vect(240) with his ship(200) plus 10 warriors(90) bare bones to meet the requirements to bring it. So he gets my vote

I just started DE, and is the Dais good, even if it is overpriced? Ive not thought of using it, just curious.

And OOE gets my vote too. Carnifex's are incredibly overpriced for what they can do. You need one in a pod with 2x TL Devourers to make them useful. OOE costs 260pts, more than any other Fex can be made to cost, and is CC only, and dies just as easily.

Give him a 2+, FNP and drop him by 60pts, then we'll talk.

To me its not worth it. 13 armor is nice, but thats a huge chunk of your army points in one vehicle/unit. Doesnt give a lot to the rest of the army for target saturation. Pretty much any game ive used it, as soon as people hear what vect does/has, they tend to shoot it dead asap,

Lictors for sure, 65pts per man (I think) to show up, and stand around for a turn, and get shot. Tyranid raveners, same thing, show up, (do some mediocre shooting) but way too expensive when kitted for shooting.

30 pts a man. Eldar is howling banshees, low S, no assault transport, and still fragile as glass, oh, and only ap3 unless you spring for the Exarch. My saddest one is Magaun Ra, I love the model, and Dark reapers,

but he's 195pts, and doesn't know what he want's to do, melee, or meh shooting.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Ahriman and Thousand Sons.

This. for a 10 man Thousand sons squad, they are around 500pts.

Vect with 9 kitted Incubi comes to 713 points. I mean they will MURDER in close combat, but dang thats a lot of points

Da Epic Pegasus wrote:
In the eldar codex I believe that Karandras could be a contender because he's like 220 or something and he doesn't even have an invulnerable save of any kind. He is tank in CC though

people take Karandras. He strikes at init 7, str8 ap2, had infiltrate and stealth. So what if he doesnt have a ++ save. Dude is T4, EW and has a 2+ save which is fine.


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 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

 Exergy wrote:
Kherzar the Decapitator
140 points to do nothing

Wow, he's like a much worse Lictor.

T3 and no armor save that is better than cover. Then he has fancy init 6 but doenst carry grenades.

For orks - flash gitz (money and points)