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 Frazzled wrote:
I didn't get that from Unforgiven at all. I got the plot of a homicidal maniac when drunk had sobered up, and events led him back down the fall. Additionally a coplot of a reporter moving from fake to the bloody real as he moves from more lethal to more lethal character.

I certainly got more of a 'Frazzled' impression of this film. I mean, I'll see it, but I don't know the general lay of the land when it comes to Japanese cinema. Does it tend to be more focused on three-color heroes, or does it trend towards darker fare? I'm totally willing to give it a shot, I'm just very apprehensive.

"We all have it coming, kid."

Devastating line and delivery.

 gorgon wrote:
"We all have it coming, kid."

Devastating line and delivery.

"Deserves got nothing to do with it"

"Hell of a thing to kill a man. You take away everything he was, and everything he was ever gonna be."

 Jimsolo wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
I didn't get that from Unforgiven at all. I got the plot of a homicidal maniac when drunk had sobered up, and events led him back down the fall. Additionally a coplot of a reporter moving from fake to the bloody real as he moves from more lethal to more lethal character.

I certainly got more of a 'Frazzled' impression of this film. I mean, I'll see it, but I don't know the general lay of the land when it comes to Japanese cinema. Does it tend to be more focused on three-color heroes, or does it trend towards darker fare? I'm totally willing to give it a shot, I'm just very apprehensive.

Really depends on who is directing it and which production company, if it was by say Miike takahashi, it could be a blood fest where the Character that clint playes becomes even darker, but seeing that Ken watanabe plays Clint's character i am not sure if he can convey the darkness of the character like in the original Unforgiven

"Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!"
"Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend."

One of the great scripts.


Oh, and my other favourite bit;
She was a comely young woman and not without prospects. Therefore it was heartbreaking to her mother that she would enter into marriage with William Munny, a known thief and murderer, a man of notoriously viscous and intemperate disposition. When she died, it was not at his hands as her mother might have expected but of smallpox. That was 1878.


Just a perfect opening to the film. Tells us everything we need to know about Munny, but does it by talking about his wife, and this allows Munny's reform to play in the background. Just perfect.

The trailer makes this look very good to me, though as one addicted to westerns and japanese period pieces that isn't much of a surprise.
This image seems appropriate for this thread.

 wana10 wrote:
The trailer makes this look very good to me, though as one addicted to westerns and japanese period pieces that isn't much of a surprise.
This image seems appropriate for this thread.

Spoiler:

I'm in the same boat - I love everything about both genres, and this looks fantastic.

Also, I LOVE that picture.

 wana10 wrote:
The trailer makes this look very good to me, though as one addicted to westerns and japanese period pieces that isn't much of a surprise.
This image seems appropriate for this thread.

Spoiler:

That is a fantastic picture. Must have for the man cave wall

Now I'm going to see if I can watch Unforgiven on Amazon Prime.

Frazzled wrote:

 azazel the cat wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Wow...no

Unforgiven was a classic and the penultimate, end of a whole genre Western movie.

A Fistful of Dollars and The Magnificent Seven were remakes of two of the best feudal Japanese period pieces ever.

Why not cross the streams and have a Meiji-era remake of one of the best westerns ever?


This looks amazing and I'm sold.

Eastwood was not in Magnificent Seven. Someone has to show a cite where Italians stole Fistful of Dollars from the Japanese.

I have no probblem with either, but again - Unforgien is the classic American film with a very specific mood and some of the best actors, well ever. You can recreate the plot but you can't recreate the movie.

Unforgiven ranks #3 on my all-time favourites list, so I'm not disagreeing about its value.

Eastwood has himself even said that the first time he read the script for A Fistfull of Dollars, he recognized it immediately -as Yojimbo.

And I just don't see how you can not say the exact same thing -being a classic film with a very specific mood and some of the best actors- about Yojimbo and Toshiro Mifune. Yet its remake is hailed as being fantastic. So why can't this also follow the same logic?

Come to think of it Blazing Saddles might be a good candidate after all.