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 Frazzled wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

Burn 3,000 bibles, what would happen? Nothing?

But you don't know that because it hasn't been done, how do you know how people would react?

Were you born yesterday?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/10/florida.quran.reactions/index.html
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/making-sense-of-news/126878/florida-quran-burning-afghanistan-violence-raise-questions-about-the-power-of-media-blackouts/

I must have been, because I can see nowhere in those articles that say that nothing happened when 3000 or so bibles were burnt. Can you quote where it said that for me?

All I can find is this

Demonstrations were planned for that Friday in Pakistan. A Christian news service reported that two Christians were killed, Bibles were burned and a few churches were attacked. (I didn’t find corroborating reporting by other news outlets.)

Even the guy writing it says that there is no corroborating evidence.

 motyak wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

Burn 3,000 bibles, what would happen? Nothing?

But you don't know that because it hasn't been done, how do you know how people would react?

Were you born yesterday?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/10/florida.quran.reactions/index.html
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/making-sense-of-news/126878/florida-quran-burning-afghanistan-violence-raise-questions-about-the-power-of-media-blackouts/

I must have been, because I can see nowhere in those articles that say that nothing happened when 3000 or so bibles were burnt. Can you quote where it said that for me?

All I can find is this

Demonstrations were planned for that Friday in Pakistan. A Christian news service reported that two Christians were killed, Bibles were burned and a few churches were attacked. (I didn’t find corroborating reporting by other news outlets.)

Even the guy writing it says that there is no corroborating evidence.

It was quite the thing here. All that happened over the threat of one Koran being burned.

 Frazzled wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

Burn 3,000 bibles, what would happen? Nothing?

But you don't know that because it hasn't been done, how do you know how people would react?

Were you born yesterday?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/10/florida.quran.reactions/index.html
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/making-sense-of-news/126878/florida-quran-burning-afghanistan-violence-raise-questions-about-the-power-of-media-blackouts/

I must have been, because I can see nowhere in those articles that say that nothing happened when 3000 or so bibles were burnt. Can you quote where it said that for me?

All I can find is this

Demonstrations were planned for that Friday in Pakistan. A Christian news service reported that two Christians were killed, Bibles were burned and a few churches were attacked. (I didn’t find corroborating reporting by other news outlets.)

Even the guy writing it says that there is no corroborating evidence.

Not quick on the uptake. All that happened over the threat of one Koran being burned.

Not quick on the uptake indeed, since I apparently said 'nothing happens when a Koran is burned'. Thats exactly what you'd get if you quoted my earlier posts. My comments said 'you don't know what would happen if a bible was burnt', and should have clarified it with 'by an individual who is receiving heavy media coverage', but even without that addition your posts since have had no relevance to my initial point.

Then you defintiely weren't around or are being willfully ignorant. There were protests across the ME and killings in the usual locations.

 Frazzled wrote:
Then you defintiely weren't around or are being willfully ignorant. There were protests across the ME and killings in the usual locations.

I. Didn't. Say. That.

I said;

 motyak wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

Burn 3,000 bibles, what would happen? Nothing?

But you don't know that because it hasn't been done, how do you know how people would react?

 motyak wrote:

I must have been, because I can see nowhere in those articles that say that nothing happened when 3000 or so bibles were burnt. Can you quote where it said that for me?

All I can find is this

Demonstrations were planned for that Friday in Pakistan. A Christian news service reported that two Christians were killed, Bibles were burned and a few churches were attacked. (I didn’t find corroborating reporting by other news outlets.)

Even the guy writing it says that there is no corroborating evidence.

and;

 motyak wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:


It was made up. Burn 10,000 Bibles, hey thats just free speech. Burn a Koran and the President calls.

Thats a ridiculous thing to say as if it is an obvious reaction to that happening in America. Has someone actually done that and I've missed it and thats why you say that? Because that'd be the only way your statement is reasonable.

And the third one can only be construed as me saying that nothing happened when a Koran is burned if you willfully ignore the others. Or if you just misunderstood the whole thing. That's what I'm going to assume has happened here.

We're going to have to agree to disagree here.

Now I do object that he had the Korans in a rolling barbeque pit. Dude, barbeque pits are sacred!

Can you imagine the moolah had he opened that up with some good ribs and brisket at the protest/counterprotest?

Am I the only one who loves the smell of veggies on a grill as well?

Its cases like this that have me wishing for an alternate universe that I could visit to just see what if. What if he had been travelling in line with the law re: his firearm and the petrol? I wish I wish...oh well.

To quote a famous game on a infamous radio show: Germany or Florida? Florida!

Dang am I glad I left that place. It really is the wang of the United States.

EDIT: I have noproof of that actually.

 sebster wrote:
Westboro Baptists have carried on their hateful, insane preaching without falling afoul of the law. In fact, they've even used the courts for protection at various times.

Point being, there's still plenty of scope within the law to say all the hateful stuff you want and you won't get arrested. So when a guy is going about saying the most attention seeking hateful nonsense he can... and getting arrested for doing dangerous stuff related to his protesting, I'm left to suspect the guy is just a dumb gak as well as having odious political beliefs. Or possibly he kind of likes inviting arrest to help his persecution complex.

At this point I'm beginning to think he gets off on it.

No, not the attention, we knew he got off on that after the first 'event'.

I mean being dealt with by law enforcement.

"What seems to be the problem officer? Oh, you caught me, I've been a bad, baaad boy..."

He's an ass...

But being pulled over because of kerosene soaked books... yeah, that's a stretch.

*shrugs*

He's just a media whore... nothing more.

Transporting the books already soaked with fuel?

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Transporting the books already soaked with fuel?

Ok for point of argument, how is that different then presoaked charcoal? I agree its still kind of stupid (but REALLLY seems to fit this guy), and I'd have the coal still in bags for transport.

But I live in drought country now, and Flolrida is not exactly worried about impromptu wildfires.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Transporting the books already soaked with fuel?

Ok for point of argument, how is that different then presoaked charcoal? I agree its still kind of stupid (but REALLLY seems to fit this guy), and I'd have the coal still in bags for transport.

But I live in drought country now, and Flolrida is not exactly worried about impromptu wildfires.

None really...

Depends on the state/local laws on "transporting material hazards"... it's likely that we're breaking laws by buying and transporting pre-soaked charcoals everytime.

 Frazzled wrote:
Ok for point of argument, how is that different then presoaked charcoal? I agree its still kind of stupid (but REALLLY seems to fit this guy), and I'd have the coal still in bags for transport.

But I live in drought country now, and Flolrida is not exactly worried about impromptu wildfires.

I may be wrong here but pre-soaked charcoal generally conforms to certain minimum safety standards, and when transported in large quantities it is done so by a vehicle designed for the job. Thousands of pre-soaked books however are a little bit more of a risk

Maybe given the level of stupid involved I just see a trailer full of soaked books and leaking a trail of kerosene as it drives along

Maybe given the level of stupid involved I just see a trailer full of soaked books and leaking a trail of kerosene as it drives along

Probably incredibly accurate and maybe why he was pulled over in the first place.

 Frazzled wrote:
Probably incredibly accurate and maybe why he was pulled over in the first place.

Yeah, it sounds like a case of Divine Intervention that the police pulled him over before Darwin kicked in

Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.

He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O

Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b**ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.

"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"

Good to know we had to mention zimmerman in a random thread, maybe we should just add zimmerman crap into our signatures!

 gossipmeng wrote:
Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.

He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O

Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b**ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.

"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"

...

Ok, firstly the number represents the victims of 9/11.

Secondly, why would this upset Muslims? It doesn't upset them, it enrages them. At least the more militant types. Islam places an EXTREME amount of emphasis on the holiness of the Quran. It's like a holy relic to them. It is not in anyway, shape or form to be defaced. To do so is a direct insult to God, and is punishable as the highest form of blasphemy. In a nut shell.

 gossipmeng wrote:
Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.

He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O

Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b**ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.

"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"

Exactly. If you're a deity who created the universe, I'm pretty certain you are:

a. above it all.
b. you gave the monkeys free will, so suck it up.
c. wipe the offender out of existence.

Pretty certain you wouldn't rely on a bunch of monkeys to be your stand in and dish out justice in your name

Muslims believe that the Quran is literally the direct word of God, as dictated directly to Muhammad. It's not like the bible where it's a collection of writings and anecdotes by multiple authors, it's literally God's word - not Muhammad's - he just held the pen. When copies are made, they're meant to keep the exact phrasing and punctuation of the original, so that in theory any two copies should be exactly the same, whereas there have been various versions of the bible over the centuries, with the language being clarified for changing audiences.

So by burning or defacing a Quran, you're literally attacking God's word, not the word of some guy who was religious, but God himself - it is literally the worst form of blasphemy.

 gossipmeng wrote:
Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.

He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O

Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b**ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.

"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"

It upsets muslims because the Koran is the word of God and may only be disposed of in a suitable religious manner.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 gossipmeng wrote:
Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.

He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O

Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b**ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.

"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"

It upsets muslims because the Koran is the word of God and may only be disposed of in a suitable religious manner.

The only way you could get a group to rage more would be to drive around with a trailer filled with 3,000 kerosene US flags that you plan to light up.
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 pities2004 wrote:
Good to know we had to mention zimmerman in a random thread, maybe we should just add zimmerman crap into our signatures!

I copied the story in totality as it was posted on the website. Posts one, two, and three all addressed this. Zimmerman is not on-topic for this thread.

 d-usa wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 gossipmeng wrote:
Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.

He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O

Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b**ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.

"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"

It upsets muslims because the Koran is the word of God and may only be disposed of in a suitable religious manner.

The only way you could get a group to rage more would be to drive around with a trailer filled with 3,000 kerosene US flags that you plan to light up.
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No where near the same vitriol...

 Ouze wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:
Good to know we had to mention zimmerman in a random thread, maybe we should just add zimmerman crap into our signatures!

I copied the story in totality as it was posted on the website. Posts one, two, and three all addressed this. Zimmerman is not on-topic for this thread.

Off topic forum needs to be changed to the "Tin foil hat wearers hate forum"

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 gossipmeng wrote:
Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.

He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O

Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b**ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.

"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"

It upsets muslims because the Koran is the word of God and may only be disposed of in a suitable religious manner.

Well Christians believe the Bible is the word of God, but Christians don't get up in arms if a Bible gets burned. You've only burned a physical object, the word itself is imperishable.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Well Christians believe the Bible is the word of God

I don't believe this is strictly true.

Come again?

The Bible being the divine word of God is one of the core beliefs of Christianity.