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2013/09/12 20:43:10
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
The Quran.. isn't there support books (The Hadiths?) and the fact the Sunni/Shia interpret the Quran differently?
There are many supported books(many much more violent than the Quran itself).
There is only one Quran. There will always be different interpretations, but there is only one Quran. Even a different translation isn't considered "valid", per se.
2013/09/12 20:58:18
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
Sunna and gak it seems are the same book but some parts they view a bit different. Quran mentions the "other books" in the writing of the book. At the beginning of Quran from what I read on Wilki started to have different punounciation and some Cilapth order one of the original prophets of Mohammad to combine it all in one book. Since my religious conviction is almost non existence I'm just touching this. Thugh my perception is that the Quran is more accurate then the Bible. I follow neither so flame away
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2013/09/12 21:26:10
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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2013/09/12 21:29:49
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
Sunni and Shia don't really interpret the core tenets any differently. The large majority of differences stem from who they believe should've been the caliph after the death of the Prophet.
2013/09/12 21:45:08
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
There are not any major written differences between, say, the King James bible and the NIV. Or any of the other versions.
Having some slight change in language does not a difference make, not in the way you seem to be implying. They don't change what is said, only how it is written.
That's like saying a book's entire meaning changes if you translate it into a different language.
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Backing up whoever Frazz reported because he mention something to the effect that men write the Holy Books and not Divine beings or something silly.
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2013/09/12 22:31:03
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
Actually *boring lecture made short* the qur'an was begun some years after the prophet's death (I don't capitalize any religious terms) because the caliphate started noticing more and more divergent interpretations. So orthodoxy was enforced in a very temporal way. The historicity of it is attested not directly, but through studies of muslim law (fikh) at the time. It keeps mentioning what would today be called an elephant in the room.
The tanakh (which comprises but is not exclusively the torah) was cobbled together and is admitted as such by mainstream judaism.
The bible is seen by some sects as the inherent word of god, others recognize the history of the text and the troubles translations represent.
Of course, because this is religion, YMMV, my ex-colleague was very fluent in the history of the qur'an, especially the Fatimid fikh and she didn't wear a headscarf, and drank with moderation.
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2013/09/12 22:43:05
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Regardless, the point was that Christians in general don't get up in arms over burning bibles but Muslims do.
Maybe that's why Bibles don't get burned very often.
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2013/09/13 00:05:29
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
LOL I remember that happening. Some Christian groups held book burning on Harry Potter books when the book series snowballed into movies. Think it was like second or third movie
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2013/09/13 00:09:55
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
How many more of our freedom are being violated? Arresting a man for carrying a firearm and fuel?
In the country side, we can carry all the guns and fuel we want not be arrested and now some city slicker college cops want to take away my hard earned guns and fuel?
America needs to stand up! This Eagle, the symbol of American justice and freedom will stand up, will you?
How many more of our freedom are being violated? Arresting a man for carrying a firearm and fuel?
In the country side, we can carry all the guns and fuel we want not be arrested and now some city slicker college cops want to take away my hard earned guns and fuel?
America needs to stand up! This Eagle, the symbol of American justice and freedom will stand up, will you?
2013/09/13 00:22:38
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
I take it your not a SM player. Tau? Eldar? Dark Eldar?
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2013/09/13 00:27:13
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
marinekilla1 wrote: How many more of our freedom are being violated? Arresting a man for carrying a firearm and fuel?
In the country side, we can carry all the guns and fuel we want not be arrested and now some city slicker college cops want to take away my hard earned guns and fuel?
America needs to stand up! This Eagle, the symbol of American justice and freedom will stand up, will you?
Come back to me when people in the countryside transport fuel by soaking books in it and then carrying the books around; I'm fairly sure you'd normally move it using sealed containers.
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2013/09/13 00:32:00
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
Easy now G. Reason I asked him if he was a Xeno player because of that
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2013/09/13 00:34:55
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
Looking at his posts, I can't tell whether Poe's Law or not.
They read like the epitome of the sheltered prepubescent 13 year old shouting down the microphone in an FPS, but given access to a keyboard.
I'm not sure if he's asking me to stand for Americans or not? Which is kinda funny, because last time I was there, the last thing they wanted me to do was stand up and open my filthy mouth.
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2013/09/13 00:51:55
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
Goliath wrote: Looking at his posts, I can't tell whether Poe's Law or not.
They read like the epitome of the sheltered prepubescent 13 year old shouting down the microphone in an FPS, but given access to a keyboard.
It smacks of way too much effort, yet in a strangely nonchalant (if not lazy) way.
... maybe some kind of performance piece?
Someone who was denied a grant and is muttering to themselves "I'll show them some gaming trolling!" with every post?
2013/09/13 01:11:04
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans