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2013/09/12 16:27:10
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Are you a Christian? What do you base this on? Some sects don't, but some do.
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-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2013/09/12 16:27:39
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Do I need to be a weatherman to know it's raining?
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2013/09/12 16:31:34
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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 pities2004 wrote: Ouze wrote: pities2004 wrote:Good to know we had to mention zimmerman in a random thread, maybe we should just add zimmerman crap into our signatures!
I copied the story in totality as it was posted on the website. Posts one, two, and three all addressed this. Zimmerman is not on-topic for this thread.
Off topic forum needs to be changed to the "Tin foil hat wearers hate forum"
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Are you a Christian? What do you base this on?
Some sects don't, but some do.
He said it's not strictly true, you said some do some don't.
Didn't you both say the same thing?
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2013/09/12 16:33:40
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Yeah, but how can anyone get outraged if we do it that way?
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
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2013/09/12 16:35:19
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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 Grey Templar wrote:Come again? The Bible being the divine word of God is one of the core beliefs of Christianity.
Well... yeah, but it's not usually treated as a holy relic like the radical Islamic folks do... Hence, Ouze's "strictly" statement. Edit: ninja'ed
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2013/09/12 16:35:34
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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God didn't write the bible. It is acknowledged that humans wrote the bible, and that they can err, and that while the text is considered holy(divinely inspired), it is not per se the literal word of God.
Muslims essentially believe that God had the Quran up in his big cloud palace, and then he gave it to Muhammad.
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2013/09/12 16:39:11
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Grey Templar wrote:Come again?
The Bible being the divine word of God is one of the core beliefs of Christianity.
No it's not. At best, you have the Creationists believing that everything contained within it is the literal truth. Everyone else can see that it is written by people, and as such it is subject to human error; therefore, the meaning is more important than the words you can see on the page.
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See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
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2013/09/12 16:39:28
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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The Conquerer
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Not correct. Humans wrote the Bible while God was dictating to them.
But that still doesn't make a Bible(object) a holy relic. You can just get another one.
So really, we hold the Bible to be as important as Muslims do, but we don't transfer that importance to the object itself.
Its like you having some important files on a flash drive. The Flash Drive itself isn't what is important, its the stuff on the Flash Drive. Muslims hold the Flash Drive being as sacred as the text contained within.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2013/09/12 16:41:45
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Morphing Obliterator
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I do like that Flash Drive analogy for the Qu'ran.
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See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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2013/09/12 16:45:56
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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This holy text can perform faster if you connect it to a Hi-Speed pulpit.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
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2013/09/12 16:47:03
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Ouze wrote:
Do I need to be a weatherman to know it's raining?
So thats a no. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ouze wrote:
Yeah, but how can anyone get outraged if we do it that way?
We didn't say the same thing.
I said some do. He said no such thing.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/12 16:48:00
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2013/09/12 16:49:24
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Let me put it this way. If there is a stack of books including the Quran, the Quran must be on top.
It's the literal infallible word of God. The original copy is in his cloud palace.
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2013/09/12 16:49:42
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Ouze wrote:
This holy text can perform faster if you connect it to a Hi-Speed pulpit.
Ok thats funny. 
I believe the Jews or Orthodox ones anyway, treat the Torah in the same manner.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2013/09/12 17:07:08
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wait, that's a thing? That can actually happen? I don't buy it.
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2013/09/12 17:17:00
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Grey Templar wrote: Kilkrazy wrote: gossipmeng wrote:Why would he bother burning close to 3000? After you torch the 1st 100 its like common dude stop wasting everyone's time.
He should have recycled them because then it would be a government recycling facility destroying 3000 qurans :O
Besides, why would this even upset Muslims (if that was the goal).... if you are religious you obviously believe in god having some kind of final judgement. I'm pretty sure he would b** ch slap the guy who burned the books while everyone else chilled in paradise.
"Goes back to watching Ancient Aliens"
It upsets muslims because the Koran is the word of God and may only be disposed of in a suitable religious manner.
Well Christians believe the Bible is the word of God, but Christians don't get up in arms if a Bible gets burned. You've only burned a physical object, the word itself is imperishable.
Muslims have different beliefs to Christians.
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2013/09/12 17:35:18
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Both belief X book is the holy word of God. but only one of them gets outraged as a rule when their book gets burned.
A similar belief attached to a equivalent object, but way different reactions to the same action regarding that object.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2013/09/12 17:35:42
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Fixture of Dakka
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If he bought those books wouldn't Islam be receiving some of that money so isn't he helping Islam somewhat? How is the money distributed when purchasing the Qur'an or any religious text?
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2013/09/12 17:37:41
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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 Cheesecat wrote:If he bought those books wouldn't Islam be receiving some of that money so isn't he helping Islam somewhat? How is the money distributed when purchasing the Qur'an or any religious text?
Yup.
A similar thing happened in Europe when the Catholic Church was buying up bibles getting printed by a publisher and burning them, they couldn't legally stop him from printing the bibles. they ended up funding him so he could make more bibles.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2013/09/12 18:39:40
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Grey Templar wrote:Both belief X book is the holy word of God. but only one of them gets outraged as a rule when their book gets burned.
A similar belief attached to a equivalent object, but way different reactions to the same action regarding that object.
It is a different belief, attached to a not equivalent object, hence different reactions.
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2013/09/12 20:00:42
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grey Templar wrote:Come again?
The Bible being the divine word of God is one of the core beliefs of Christianity.
That will be The Bible that was cobbled together over the years then? We'll have some of the Torah in it, plus the other bits that we deem acceptable... but not the stuff that could loosen our grip on society. At least the Jews & Muslims have an original book, unlike the Christians.
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2013/09/12 20:02:19
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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 Wolfstan wrote: Grey Templar wrote:Come again?
The Bible being the divine word of God is one of the core beliefs of Christianity.
That will be The Bible that was cobbled together over the years then? We'll have some of the Torah in it, plus the other bits that we deem acceptable... but not the stuff that could loosen our grip on society. At least the Jews & Muslims have an original book, unlike the Christians.
Reported that nice little quip. Toodles
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2013/09/12 20:04:27
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Reported for what Frazz?
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2013/09/12 20:06:54
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Frazzled wrote: Wolfstan wrote: Grey Templar wrote:Come again?
The Bible being the divine word of God is one of the core beliefs of Christianity.
That will be The Bible that was cobbled together over the years then? We'll have some of the Torah in it, plus the other bits that we deem acceptable... but not the stuff that could loosen our grip on society. At least the Jews & Muslims have an original book, unlike the Christians.
Reported that nice little quip. Toodles
For what? He's right. The Bible was a hand picked book, thats been translated several different times with many things changed throughout the years. The Torah and Quran are still the exact same books they were when they were originally copied down to paper.
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2013/09/12 20:08:00
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Seriously?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2013/09/12 20:09:01
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Seriously.
I'm not saying the Bible is less right then the other two books. They were all written by man. The Bible has just has some more revisement over the years.
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2013/09/12 20:09:25
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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2013/09/12 20:11:52
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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That will be The Bible that was cobbled together over the years then?
***Nice comment
We'll have some of the Torah in it, plus the other bits that we deem acceptable...
***Ok that was the Nicene Council. Thats legit, if scornful.
but not the stuff that could loosen our grip on society.
***Awesome editorial comment. The first step in overcoming bigotry is realizing you are one.
At least the Jews & Muslims have an original book, unlike the Christians.
****See above
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/09/12 20:13:06
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2013/09/12 20:13:10
Subject: Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Frazzled wrote:That will be The Bible that was cobbled together over the years then?
***Nice comment
We'll have some of the Torah in it, plus the other bits that we deem acceptable...
***Ok that was the Nicene Council
but not the stuff that could loosen our grip on society.
***Awesome editorial comment. The first step in overcoming bigotry is realizing you are one.
At least the Jews & Muslims have an original book, unlike the Christians.
****See above
Lots of anger at religion out there. Some of us atheists outgrow it, some don't. Best just to learn to live with it. 
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2013/09/12 20:17:59
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Over 50 versions of the Bible
Quran One
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2013/09/12 20:36:54
Subject: Re:Pastor Terry Jones arrested with thousands of kerosene-soaked Qurans
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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I'm not sure that's right...
The Bible was revised thousands of times...
The Quran.. isn't there support books (The Hadiths?) and the fact the Sunni/Shia interpret the Quran differently?
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