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You'll at least need a couple of hound units to make it legal but it should still be a pretty big deathstar.

St1mp0 wrote:
does anyone have any pictures of their unit fillers they'd be happy to share with the class?

sorry for bad pic, was just a progress update of my tourney army

you can make out the mushroom filler, floating island (pretty raw still)

just beyond the red mushroom is 2 yellow mushrooms with shaman morphin a dwarf, can't see it worth a crap. will take some shots tonight



pretty rough miscast still, need to smooth parts out/fill gaps and haven't decided if going to add goblin bits shooting out all over.. also need a colorscheme for it





couple more shots of the island w/ my captured chaos dwarf lord / fanatic (magnetized/removable)

rough shot of a squig, this guy is finished up nearly. has 3 colors and gobllins added poking his eyes/ throwing nets on him

 HoverBoy wrote:
You'll at least need a couple of hound units to make it legal but it should still be a pretty big deathstar.

I think I'll try it if I get back to fantasy.

Out of which boxs are fillers made for dwarf crossbow and warrior/hammer units?

You make your own. Its creative.

A suitable Dwarf filler might be a couple dwarves carrying a keg of Bugman's latest brew for example.

So you have to sculpt them your own :( That would cost more then actual models ? Someone mentioned using stuff like chariot lions from HE and tomb stones from skeleton boxs etc . do dwarfs have stuff like that too ?

It should easy enough to find a suitable barrel. Craft stores often have them for dioramas. Then you just need to find a dwarf you can either repose or who is already posed appropriately.

Really you use your imagination with these things.

Never done modeling and don't want to destroy models I already have . From what I have seen in modeling stores around here they have only modern stuff and it scaled different.
All the dwarfs I own are from skull pass , so reposing them would be too hard for me.
In what boxs can I ind dwarfs , that are posed well for fillers ?

Only you can answer that question. Make a filler that you like. Come up with your own ideas. My keg carrier was only an example of potential fillers. Your own will be better because they'll be yours.

yeah the problem is I don't want to risk messing up models and ending up with something people won't let me use .I can't remember seeing anyone using fillers around here and I want it to be all legal . I don't have the money to buy stuff and pay someone to build it , only to find out I just wasted money.

Makumba wrote:
yeah the problem is I don't want to risk messing up models and ending up with something people won't let me use .I can't remember seeing anyone using fillers around here and I want it to be all legal . I don't have the money to buy stuff and pay someone to build it , only to find out I just wasted money.

look up 28mm or 25mm scale dungeon accessories (barrels and stuff) and you could use those for your beer barrels.

my friend who has skull pass dwarves uses the pony car in the middle of a block, and the dwarven ruin-wall things are a rank of 5 guys.



You could build a platform and have a dwarf posing up on top of it like he's giving a speech, really all up to your imagination.


you can get away with doing it a lot cheaper than models.


my 9 goblin mushroom cost maybe $2.50 in total. I cut the base from plastic, used an old pill bottle, hot glued half a styrofoam ball on top, then covered foam with putty and painted it. that's pretty cheap.


a good start would be to go ahead and ask members of the group you play with regularly about it and get ideas as to what they think is acceptable.

Did it today . They said fillers that aren't made out of GW models are illegal :( Still would like to thank everyone for advice.

I love the mushroom cloud! genius idea. though by the image it looks pretty darn big!

lol i would also love to field a unit of chosen in a 1K match! possibly with a Shrine! make them pretty much unstoppable lol.

i have been looking at these fish tank ornaments for some time! what do you think about using these for lizardmen fillers? its a link im afraid!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Penn-Plax-Tiki-Fish-Aquarium-Ornament-4-3-Pack-Assortment-RRT1A-/190913241263

let me know what you think

Those tikis are neat! My buddy has aquarium foliage in his lizards. Well 2 friends do! So pretty common for lizards. Hell even my 3rd frames beats of nurgle are hanging out in aquarium foliage like its a swamp.

The mushroom is big. I can't tell you exactly how big but big. The diameter of the shockewave is about 9-10" I think?

Thanks!


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Makumba wrote:
Did it today . They said fillers that aren't made out of GW models are illegal :( Still would like to thank everyone for advice.

Well you could use the pony cart from the skull pass set and dwarf stone wall things? Hope that helps!

You could make a carried platform, and cut axe heads off warriors and convert axe handles into poles.. Poles connect into bottom of or ate platform? Then could throw you a dwarf lord or runesmith up there ? So you'll have 5 gw models take up 9 or more?

The only time I but multipart night goblins is when I want to pose them for fillers or to have them posed for riding a mount.


I assume you are playing a gw store, sorry to hear they being that way. If you sculpt or create it from scratch, should be good to go.


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At a second look at tikis, I could totlly see skinks shootin from stop those or clinging to them, hangin out the mouths...


Could see forest goblins doin same.... *whistles to self*

May loot that idea for my forest goblin army!

If you put ears on that squig it would look like DeadMau5.

Makumba wrote:
Did it today . They said fillers that aren't made out of GW models are illegal :( Still would like to thank everyone for advice.

The legality of GW models falls off if you supplies from craft stores or build your own and add a GW model or 2. If they still say no, then they are just being douche bags and don't understand the hobby. IMO
Check stores like Hobby Lobby and Michaels. (If you are not in the US I can't recommend stores).
Hobby Lobby has a large selection of wood craft and there are small barrels that are a good size. They are relatively cheap, about $3 for 9 I think.
You can also use Balsa wood, and snaps from the sewing section dirt cheap, and make a wheelbarrow. Then take a small rod and cut to the right size to fill the wheelbarrow with crossbow bolts. This would take up about a 40mm square, i.e 4 models.
Or take the same Balsa strips and make a weapons rack. Add any extra crossbows or hammers lying around.
Go on ebay, find a busted up terrible bunch of orc models for cheap, cut them up add a little blood and gore stick a couple on a 40mm base with a dwarf.
There are many ways to fill in space and keep to the theme of the army.
Just practice. Make a few, read some hobby blogs. Search dwarf unit fillers on google (or whatever search you prefer) Use the first ones til you can make better ones.
I find it tons of fun and adds great character. I found this one on google for you. Very simple. Sorry about the size of the pic Not the best at the computer stuff.

Makumba wrote:
Did it today . They said fillers that aren't made out of GW models are illegal :( Still would like to thank everyone for advice.

Where are you playing?

If it's at a GW store, they (should) have no qualms with scratch-built stuff. They only dislike models from other suppliers because they lose them money (a box of dwarves bought from mantic is a box of dwarves less bought from GW). Scratch building stuff is not really losing them money. I play with Battlewagons that have Deffrollas made from loo roll on them at my local GW regularly, they're fine with that, and technically I'm depriving them of the sale of 3 Battlewagon upgrade sprues.

Also, remember the rule of cool.

Rule of cool RULES.

That is why we play a game with models we must assemble and paint beforehand

 Shadowbrand wrote:
If you put ears on that squig it would look like DeadMau5.

Haha. Never noticed that. Now with eyebrows teeth nd some paint he looks like stitch from leelo n stitch or whatever it was.

 The Shadow wrote:


If it's at a GW store, they (should) have no qualms with scratch-built stuff. They only dislike models from other suppliers because they lose them money (a box of dwarves bought from mantic is a box of dwarves less bought from GW). Scratch building stuff is not really losing them money. I play with Battlewagons that have Deffrollas made from loo roll on them at my local GW regularly, they're fine with that, and technically I'm depriving them of the sale of 3 Battlewagon upgrade sprues.

Also, remember the rule of cool.

either at my friends home or at a FLGS , there is one GW shop in Poland , but it puts "special" in to special . There are 3 tables there , but you can only play the demo starter sets on those or you can participate in events . Those apo gone wrong games, with stuff like bring an sm hero and only an sm hero who is painted to play , you can't bring a non marine HQ , hell you can't even bring a SW or DA one . The WFB ones are the same bring your units of Dark elfs and have a huge battle dark elfs on dark elfs , only the huge is 5 people playing with one dudes army to get the promo plastics for his army.

The problem with balsa here is that it is sold in two places . Specialists stores where you can buy it , if you are an architect or student and hardware stores , but they sell only it in bulk .

My friends are against counts as or using models from other firms or systems for any game. They do use fillers , but only if they are made out of models that were in actual boxs. So a lion from a chariot is ok , but the pony cart is not , because they say it is a non gaming pice.

Go on ebay, find a busted up terrible bunch of orc models for cheap, cut them up add a little blood and gore stick a couple on a 40mm base with a dwarf.

buying online is not an option for me .


I checked my codex and couldn't find death rollers , are they a FW unit or limited edition stuff?

Wow!!
I'd probably never go in the GW store with those kind of restrictions.
As for hobby materials it sounds like you have a hard out there..maybe google a few things and see what you can come up with.
Check hardware or crafts stores. Sewing shops, wood working. Any scale model places if you have any shops that do model railroads.
Look at pictures and try to find things of similar size and shapes. Lego can be useful with a bit of tweaking and a coat of paint.
Remember all the fancy materials now, although they generate great results they are not required.
20 years ago we made do with card board and cereal packets and leftover sprues

Looks like you've got a rough gaming group to boot.

The deathroller was an old dwarf model. Basically a steamroller with a spikey instead of smooth roll.

cool thing about the death roller . Thanks to comunism we skiped on the whole cardboard box for cereal , when they arrived here it was plastic bags all the way. It is actualy hard to get materials to build stuff , because you either have to buy a lot of it or you need to buy it in specialist shops which sell them to architects and students of architecture only..

wow, so your friends, Makumba would not play you unless your army was made entirely from GW models?

i have it pretty easy with my group of friends. one of them used a (warhammer quest) Bat on a 75/50mm base and used it as a griffon knight!

ive let my friend use a plastic cup as a drop pod! and a tissue box as a land raider!

though i did put my foot down as he joked about getting lego men out lol

I'd rather play against the lego men than the tissue box or plastic cup.

Makumba wrote:
either at my friends home or at a FLGS

In that case they don't really have any right to enforce such harsh GW model-only rules. Not at the FLGS and certainly not at someone's house. If it's a group of friends, then there should be a relaxed, calm, accommodating atmosphere where you're free be be creative and just have fun. Not some GW-run tournament round at Warhammer World!

Now, if you're playing a GW games system then I can totally understand not wanting third party miniatures like mantic etc, that's okay. But saying you can't use the pony cart or any scenic pieces (from a GW box!!) because they're not a "gaming piece" is, frankly, a ridiculous attitude to have.

I hate to say it because they're your mates and all, but to me it seems like they've totally lost touch with the heart and spirit of what the hobby is supposed to be about...

wow, so your friends, Makumba would not play you unless your army was made entirely from GW models?

All armies here for all systems are played under tournament rules , even the FAQ we use are not the GW or PP ones , but the one used in tournaments here. As far as the shop goes , because it doesn't run non GW stuff you can only play GW stuff there. Aside for demons it is not even allowed to use WFB or w40k models in the other game.

So how about an unarmed minotaur being restrained by chains as a unit filler in a big group of spearmen...how about a griffon?

That's the sort of thing that sounds cool for a diorama sort of thing, but would look a bit odd on the table.

I must be the only player in Midgard that thinks that unit fillers are terrible.

To me, if you are running a block of 20 spearmen, it should be 20 spearmen, not 12 with two 4 model fillers. If I have taken the time to collect, build and paint a unit, I would be ticked if someone showed up to play me with fillers in theirs

I don't play competitively. it just looks wrong to have a house moving around with your soldiers!

Th0rh4mm3r wrote:
I must be the only player in Midgard that thinks that unit fillers are terrible.

To me, if you are running a block of 20 spearmen, it should be 20 spearmen, not 12 with two 4 model fillers. If I have taken the time to collect, build and paint a unit, I would be ticked if someone showed up to play me with fillers in theirs

I don't play competitively. it just looks wrong to have a house moving around with your soldiers!

And I would be just as ticked if you had a fit about the unit filler that I worked hard to make look good and provide some variety from endless ranks of the same model over and over again.

Different people have different tastes, and emphasize different parts of the hobby. If someone loves the modeling aspect and plays the game to show off his work as much as to... well, play the game, does that mean they're playing the game wrong? IF someone hates painting minis but loves playing the game, so he does a bare-minimum paint job of marginal appearance so he can get down to playing the game, is he playing the game wrong?

No, they are not. They may be falling afoul of your personal preferences, but the hobby involves more than just putting metal (and plastic) on the table. If it bothers you that much, just don't play them.

If you really WANT to limit the pool of people willing to play you, be my guest. I prefer to play as many different players as possible, to match my tactics against theirs as well as make some new friends along the way (the unstated THIRD part of the hobby - it is a SOCIAL hobby, after all!)