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One of the things which most attracts me to WHFB is the ability to make up cool unit fillers. I've seen lots of awesome Orc fillers, with huge fights, building impromptu battlefield barricades, etc.

When I briefly had a VC army, I modelled loads of skeletons climbing out of the ground; just using the spare parts from the skeleton kits enabled me to build twice as many skeletons as you would otherwise using this method before you even start building up cool mini-dioramas to act as fillers.

Makumba wrote:

So for point number 1 you should I presume also be against anyone who bought the models second hand, or for less than full GW price?

We had people being disallowed to buy table time , because their warmachine/w40k/WFB armies weren't bought at the store .

it wouldn't make a difference to his standing in the community, maybe he didn't veto the army because he is not a petty idiot who for some reason has there own ego heavily affected by who paid the most for their toy soldiers.

I don't know how 50 years of communism treated you , but here if someone gets something cheaper then you and it is the same thing , then you end up a fool . And I have yet see someone buy a high cost army , because he was effected by someone else's ego and not their own.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here. If you cant handle the fact someone got something for cheaper than you then that is your own ego problem. There are many reasons that someone can get something cheaper some of which are timing and opportunity. The cost of someone elses army has no bearing on the cost of your own, what the hell has communism got to do with this? Your arguments are nonsensical and sound like the rantings of someone who is very insecure, about the cost of toy soldiers of all things.

Also by refusing to allow people (who have to pay for table time) to not use armies not bought in store is a great way to alienate new customers to the store. I understand not wanting to let people play who never ever purchase in store and keep showing up with new models bought elsewhere but if you are not allowed to play models not bought there thats just ridiculous. If that is your stores policy I would never play there. I would also never play with people who feel they have to some how prove their standing in the community by preventing others from playing.

By your logic people who buy computer games full price should refuse to play multiplayer with anyone who got it on sale.

Makumba wrote:
...if he didn't veto your army it means he isn't important enough in the community , which is worse then being stupid.

You guys veto each other's armies? Or more to the point, only SOME of you are "important enough in the community" to be allowed to veto someone else's army, and the rest have to just take it?

"Sorry, dude, I'm vetoing your dwarf gunline...."

"Nope, you can't play your Slann, I'm vetoing it...."

"I'm playing a big deathstar so I'm vetoing all your chaff; you can only have big blocks of suck so I get a cheap win...."

You guys sound like a whole lot of fun to game with.... not.

 Vulcan wrote:

Makumba wrote:
...if he didn't veto your army it means he isn't important enough in the community , which is worse then being stupid.

You guys veto each other's armies? Or more to the point, only SOME of you are "important enough in the community" to be allowed to veto someone else's army, and the rest have to just take it?

"Sorry, dude, I'm vetoing your dwarf gunline...."

"Nope, you can't play your Slann, I'm vetoing it...."

"I'm playing a big deathstar so I'm vetoing all your chaff; you can only have big blocks of suck so I get a cheap win...."

You guys sound like a whole lot of fun to game with.... not.

Acting like an donkey-cave is the best way to assert your Alpha Male gaming status.

I personally like to veto all armies bought before GW price rises to ensure no one has bought cheaper units than me.

Makumba wrote:

So for point number 1 you should I presume also be against anyone who bought the models second hand, or for less than full GW price?

We had people being disallowed to buy table time , because their warmachine/w40k/WFB armies weren't bought at the store .

it wouldn't make a difference to his standing in the community, maybe he didn't veto the army because he is not a petty idiot who for some reason has there own ego heavily affected by who paid the most for their toy soldiers.

I don't know how 50 years of communism treated you , but here if someone gets something cheaper then you and it is the same thing , then you end up a fool . And I have yet see someone buy a high cost army , because he was effected by someone elses ego and not their own.

This is hilarious. You and your gaming group sounds like plugs. Have fun with that...

Well I think that fillers are okay but like said previously it sometimes breaks up the look of the unit.

GW has a little article of some of their own modelers making fillers here:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=11500017a

You would think that the modelers at gw painting for white dwarf just get a bunch of free models why would they need fillers.

But really I have skaven and don't use filler but I probably should it would save money, but i like when I have a big block of 70 slaves and im taking off handfuls at a time during combats...kind of enjoyable to watch them die (these warpstones and skavenbrew must be going straight to my head)