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So. Many. Characters. Like, dozens of characters need new models.

SoB. Obliterators. Havocs. Cult troops. Bikes, both Eldar, SM, and CSM. Rough Riders. Ogryns. Ork Warbuggies and Wartrakks. Big Guns. Greater Daemons. Furies. Chaos Space Marines. Chaos Terminators. Storm Troopers. Necron Warriors. Beasts of Nurgle. Catachans. Vostroyans. Mordians. Tallarns. Techpriests and Techmarines. Pariahs. (I want them back!) Deffkoptas. Biovores. Spore Mines. Termagants. Kroot. Vespid. All Aspect Warriors.

To name a couple.

Sisters of Battle as a whole. I know some people say "Their bolters are fine" but.. I'd rather they have the standard Imperial boltgun except much, much more ornate.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
So. Many. Characters. Like, dozens of characters need new models.

SoB. Obliterators. Havocs. Cult troops. Bikes, both Eldar, SM, and CSM. Rough Riders. Ogryns. Ork Warbuggies and Wartrakks. Big Guns. Greater Daemons. Furies. Chaos Space Marines. Chaos Terminators. Storm Troopers. Necron Warriors. Beasts of Nurgle. Catachans. Vostroyans. Mordians. Tallarns. Techpriests and Techmarines. Pariahs. (I want them back!) Deffkoptas. Biovores. Spore Mines. Termagants. Kroot. Vespid. All Aspect Warriors.

To name a couple.

That looks like pretty much my list of "everything that is or was metal (was meaning it's Finecast now)".


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 TheCustomLime wrote:
Sisters of Battle as a whole. I know some people say "Their bolters are fine" but.. I'd rather they have the standard Imperial boltgun except much, much more ornate.

The models are okay. Not GREAT, just okay. I noticed the other day that the face piece on the helmet isn't really symmetrical on at least one of the model types which threw me off a little.

I've taken to aiming to a table top standard with mine because of it. I just don't feel motivated to paint a couple hundred models to a high standard when there are all this little things about them that bug me.

Love the aesthetic, but only tolerate the models.

I don't even play sisters, but looking at their line of metal models that are just plain bad I feel bad for sisters players.

This off-topic, but i want guards-WOMEN... For variance and stuff, i'm sick of sausage fest tidal waves

 Blacksails wrote:


On topic, the IG stormtrooper models are pretty awful. The Kasrkin are pretty good, but the basic stormtrooper metal model just looks awful.

Take. That. Back.


They only need a plastic kit.

Catachans, Warbuggies/Trakkz and all of the Phoenix Lords.

 Banzaimash wrote:
Catachans, Warbuggies/Trakkz and all of the Phoenix Lords.

While I would agree wholeheartedly with the first two... what's wrong with the Phoenix Lords?

With the exception of Jain Zar being rather top-heavy, they're all pretty awesome sculpts. While there are some special characters that have been bypassed by the rest of their range (Looking at you, Abaddon!) the Phoenix Lords have aged rather well.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:


On topic, the IG stormtrooper models are pretty awful. The Kasrkin are pretty good, but the basic stormtrooper metal model just looks awful.

Take. That. Back.


They only need a plastic kit.

You think this



is a good sculpt? I mean, even just compared to the Kasrkin, I can't find a reason to ever buy them.

But I will not retract my statement!

Okay, but we can all agree the Rough Rider model needs some serious updating in the IG range.

SoB, indeed.

The Greater Daemons have been neglected for too long.

CSM squad deserves the care given to their loyalist counterparts. I don't expect DV Chosen level models for these guys, but give us something! Come to think of it, give us a DV-like Chosen box in the meantime

Obliterators. Oh, how I hate those models.

 Blacksails wrote:


Okay, but we can all agree the Rough Rider model needs some serious updating in the IG range.

That we can, and I only said the other thing because I spent my last week painting my Stormies. Also, I think they look more elite than the Kasrkin because they have a lot more gear on e'm Kasrkins look kinda naked.

Well, depends on how many grenades you need! Seriously, sarge has 5 just on his front. I dread to know how many he has elsewhere on his body.

Also, the guy on the bottom right has a derpy face. Something about him just feels off.

Don't have the sarge since I bought a 2nd hand random bunch of them, but the regular guys are anything to go by, he's got at least 3 smokes on this back pack of his.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Don't have the sarge since I bought a 2nd hand random bunch of them, but the regular guys are anything to go by, he's got at least 3 smokes on this back pack of his.

I'm...not even mad. That's just amazing.

Alright, well you've convinced me that the stormtroopers can stay if they become some sort of non-metal product.

I'll pass it along to the brass at GW.

Smoke grenades, that is

Probably has 2-3 Kraks hidden, too.

 Blacksails wrote:
Also, the guy on the bottom right has a derpy face. Something about him just feels off.

Every one of the guys have a derpy face. And those that have masks, have a very beaky one.

Also, seconding Ork Big Gunz. Wagon Wheels.

Given that Orks have kind of a WW1/WW2 tech vibe wagon wheels aren't unreasonable.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=world+war+1+artillery+pics&qpvt=world+war+1+artillery+pics&FORM=IGRE

The sculpts are a bit uninspiring though.

Eldar support platforms went from gakky metal to awesome plastic, so i'm hoping the ork ones do too.

 insaniak wrote:

 Banzaimash wrote:
Catachans, Warbuggies/Trakkz and all of the Phoenix Lords.

While I would agree wholeheartedly with the first two... what's wrong with the Phoenix Lords?

With the exception of Jain Zar being rather top-heavy, they're all pretty awesome sculpts. While there are some special characters that have been bypassed by the rest of their range (Looking at you, Abaddon!) the Phoenix Lords have aged rather well.

They are all two-dimensional. I do not like two-dimensional.

Also, a character with a helmet as tall as his body does not look plausible in the slightest.

That, is why they need fixing.

Except Maugan Ra. I love Maugan Ra.

 Ascalam wrote:
Given that Orks have kind of a WW1/WW2 tech vibe wagon wheels aren't unreasonable.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=world+war+1+artillery+pics&qpvt=world+war+1+artillery+pics&FORM=IGRE

The sculpts are a bit uninspiring though.

Eldar support platforms went from gakky metal to awesome plastic, so i'm hoping the ork ones do too.

Personally, I took forgeworld big gunz and put them on scratchbuilt trailers, with wheels from bikers, and hitches from the old trukk. The idea is, the trukks can pull the heavy artillery, just like the WWI/II artillery, or they have the grots push it! And also, the wheels look like all of the (modern, non-wagon) Ork wheels since 3rd edition. You could do something similar with the GW gunz.

Sounds pretty cool.

I wish i had the cash for all the FW ork goodies i would want...

But then if i had that kind of money i would just buy FW itself..

 Ascalam wrote:
Sounds pretty cool.

I wish i had the cash for all the FW ork goodies i would want...

But then if i had that kind of money i would just buy FW itself..

Luckily, in this case, the FW big gunz cost less (even with conversion rates) than the GW gunz, which are a whopping $30. I wish the same could be said about anything else.

Sadly I'm long since stocked on big gunz, so will have to find a way to justify overbuying them rather than expanding my other armies.

Eldar jetbikes. They're too static and with no posability in the riders. The DE ones show that they can look dynamic.

Tau Crisis Suits

Tau Sniper Drone squad

Lots of the older Space Wolf models

Thunderfire cannon

 Brother SRM wrote:

 chromedog wrote:
Eldar jetbikes
Eldar Warp spiders.

They updated the Wraithguard after 20-odd years.
Time to do the rest.

I just read an old White Dwarf from 1996 featuring the new plastic Eldar Jetbike. Kind of puts things into perspective when there's still a model that's a regular fixture of some armies that's older than many of the people who play this game.

More than 50% of the 1994 codex is till in production(just Fine Cast now). Not to mention the old Swooping Hawks, Fire Dragons, and Striking Scorpions form the 1994 codex still look decent.

 Blacksails wrote:

 necronspurs2012 wrote:
a great example of one dimensional just standing there chainsword in one hand and bolt pistol in the other at each side legs aprt not much action at all

Is your keyboard missing commas, periods, or any punctuation?

On topic, the IG stormtrooper models are pretty awful. The Kasrkin are pretty good, but the basic stormtrooper metal model just looks awful.

Yeah, I agree, but I think thats more because no one freaking uses them so there is no demand. They are amazingly over priced for what you get. Veterans are better point for point.

I agree with most of the suggestions I've seen, with Eldar and Chaos in particular needing *a lot* of love. Most of their core range is ancient and mediocre at best.

I'd like to add that pretty much all the 1st generation plastics need re-doing, their proprotions are poor, detail is lacking, and the kits often come with few bits. Cadians, most of the old marine kits, catachans, CSM and so on.

I'd love to see SoB and Steel Legion plastics. The metal ones look great despite their old age, but metal is kind of a pain to paint and of course the number of different poses are very limited. And well, the high prices.

There are plenty of models listed here that I don't agree with needing a re-do, but it's all subjective. Still, one the whole the GW model range has strangely few miniatures posed for "action." I should really model a marine and a terminator in 3D one of these days just to see what kind of funky poses I could come up with

Eldar Jet bikes. When I was looking at making an Eldar force to ally with Tau and Dark Eldar, I figured faster troops was something Tau lacked. In the end I didn't do it as I disliked the models.

Mostly its the way the rider is positioned and the helmet, it lacks the same look of speed as the reaver jet bikes have.

Again, but Crisis suits really need to be redone. If they made them more like the commander suit that would be amazing.

 R3YNO wrote:
Eldar Jet bikes. When I was looking at making an Eldar force to ally with Tau and Dark Eldar, I figured faster troops was something Tau lacked. In the end I didn't do it as I disliked the models.

Mostly its the way the rider is positioned and the helmet, it lacks the same look of speed as the reaver jet bikes have.

Games day 2007 (I think) had this sculpt on display for the jetbike which I got really excited about:
But I'm pretty sure they changed it and used it for the reaver jetbike.