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Well, if you can field a whole army of Knights, then in the usually missions there must be a way to score.

They're scoring? They're scoring! THEY'RE SCORING!?

Damn, I'm not going to have friends at the club any more.

Seriously, though, that's totally changed how they play. Not only can you kick pretty much any unit off an objective, you can then camp it yourself. I'm beginning to think that's just a bit OP.

So, are they scoring in their own detachment or in an allied slot?

According to the WD editor's post (on the last page), all Knights are scoring, don't take up a FOC slot and are not Lords of War.

I thought vechiles couldn't score.

They can't normally, but Knights can as per that post.

Excorist Tanks, you've been replaced.

So I guess that with two Knights my BA army can be unshelved soon.

One knight can be HQ the other knights can score. You can add a redoubt or something for AA

Per the blog post, all of them score, and one of them counts as a Warlord. Which means the Warlord scores, too.

I am so running a Knight Household!

SJ

But they don't contest, because they're vehicles.

So if I'm a troops unit on an objective, and your knight is there too, then I'm holding it, but there's no contesting unit nearby, so I claim the objective.

You're scoring, but then there's a contesting unit nearby, so you can't claim it.

That's what 10-12 battle cannon shots are for

Hm,I've seen they can ally themselves out, but what about take their own allies? How do they work with that chart?

That's the big question. The article just says "take them as allies with YOUR army".

Tyranids with knight titan allies!

It needs to be clarified.

 Paradigm wrote:
According to the WD editor's post (on the last page), all Knights are scoring, don't take up a FOC slot and are not Lords of War.

Might make a poll on whether people think this is responsible rule writing, yes or no?

 Spellbound wrote:
That's the big question. The article just says "take them as allies with YOUR army".

Tyranids with knight titan allies!

It needs to be clarified.

Seeing how even the most renegade of the knights orders are still human, they wouldn't exactly find themselves in a position to ally with a race that views them as raw materials

The knights are independent of the Imperium, something I thought was pretty cool. They can be spun into being knight houses only, allied with their techpriest buddies (who just want a peek under the armor...) and "Ronin" or sorts who will probably just rent out their skills to whom ever is buying. So they'll easily drop in with imperial forces for sure, fluff would allow mercenary hires from tau/elder maybe, and of course, you could always make the claim one went heretical and fell to the warp. The non-human forces would have some other drawbacks though, and we're kinda waiting to see what those would be. They still count as a secondary ally, but I wonder... if I attach them to an inquisition force, can I then attach the inquisition to my main sisters (taking no detachment hit) and then get my secondary detachment of guardsmen? Mwahahaha....

Something I can see is having a Knight park on top of an Object and protect it. The base is so insanely large that it would be very easy to position it in such a way that someone would have to sweep in from the rear in order to contest an objective the knight is on (as that you must be within 3" to contest)

As of now Nids can take them. Doesn't mean we need to use the models. A Trygon with a rupture cannon could be a paladin and acid sprayer could be a Thermal Cannon.

This is tactica, there is another thread for these kind of allies (an extensive one) in 40k general. This is for tactics!

On topic: I can picture a knight running forward to get to an objective fast. It's now an even bigger target with that!

Can Creed scout the titan?

One thing another thread talked about is its death kneel explosion. So maybe running bikes near it isn't a good thing

Taking just one Imperial Knight makes me think of using the Knight Paladin as a sort of all-purpose unit. The rapid battle-cannon alows you to shred MEQ and horde units with impunity, while the D weapon in close combat allows you to easily destroy AV 14 monstrosities like Land Raiders and Monoliths.

And even if they threaten you with melta, any melta close enough to threaten it will either be close enough to CC if they don't kill the knight, or the knight has a good chance to kill them with its own death.

The Knight Paladin should serve as an effective area denial tool, which in objectives missions will prove critical.

I see one Knight as a walking bomb.

I plan on trying a single Knight Errant in my Salamanders list. Drop on one side of the board and send him to the far end of his enemy line. Sort of an "attack his flanks" to force him to pick condense his army to one side or the other. Even if his entire army falls towards the pods, I'll have a scoring Knight on his previously owned objectives.

I'll know more when my Knight comes in from the Pre-Order

 Spellbound wrote:
But they don't contest, because they're vehicles.

So if I'm a troops unit on an objective, and your knight is there too, then I'm holding it, but there's no contesting unit nearby, so I claim the objective.

You're scoring, but then there's a contesting unit nearby, so you can't claim it.

If they score, they also contest, just look at Missions that make HS or FA units ( that happens to be a lot of vehicles) score and contest for objectives.

Except they don't contest. They just count as scoring, which isn't the same.

 Paradigm wrote:
They're scoring? They're scoring! THEY'RE SCORING!?

Damn, I'm not going to have friends at the club any more.

Seriously, though, that's totally changed how they play. Not only can you kick pretty much any unit off an objective, you can then camp it yourself. I'm beginning to think that's just a bit OP.

OP = $

I am hoping for a dumb rush of people looking to take advantage of the over-the-top rules followed by minor shifts in the rules that bring the Knight closer to the norm (the rumored '6.5/7th edition'). But who knows, if they want to sell the models badly enough, then they will just skip the second step. Welcome to MechWarrior 40k.

Rapture wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
They're scoring? They're scoring! THEY'RE SCORING!?

Damn, I'm not going to have friends at the club any more.

Seriously, though, that's totally changed how they play. Not only can you kick pretty much any unit off an objective, you can then camp it yourself. I'm beginning to think that's just a bit OP.

Welcome to MechWarrior 40k.

Exalted.

Haha ain't that the truth. I know the Riptide and Wraithknight aren't technically walkers (although one by all means should be IMO, but I'm not going open that can of worms) we take another step in the MechWarrior direction every few releases it seems. As much as I want to stay away from the bandwagon and as silly as I think the model looks, I'll probably grab a single one because tac marines suck something awful when not podded or spammed and I could use a decent scoring unit. I'd imagine I'm not the alone in doing so.

Yeah, if they are scoring that's huge.

I suspect a few Tau players will want to make some as Gue'vesa or Demi-urg allies in order to have a unit that can survive on an objective.

Necron players may be snickering though, at least the ones who don't spam Tesla.

I plan on using one in a Farsight Enclaves army and paint it up to match the scheme and maybe use some Farsight decals on it, would be a cool Freeblade!