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Manchu wrote: For example, Frazz, Zilla also appeared in the Toho picture "Final Wars" alongside of the Real G.
I think I actually saw that on youtube (blocked here). it was like an inside joke where the Big G took him out without breaking a sweat (I think with a little of the old Frazzled's Bad Breath ray).
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Easy E wrote: Also, why do they have to use that buzz-whump sound int eh trailers! It is like the modern version of the Wilhelm scream. It has just become a sound editors joke or something.
I barely noticed it at first, they kinda blended it with Big G's trademark Skreonk.
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gorgon wrote: This one -- with Bryan Cranston's crazy-guy-with-a-theory ranting straight out of central casting -- has me a little less enthused.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that's turned off by the rant that was leaving teeth marks on everything.
I take it that they're featuring that rant just because Cranston is kinda hot right now coming off Breaking Bad.
But it has me wondering if he's playing the disgraced scientist with a theory, who tries desperately to get the government/military to listen to him, only to be rebuffed until things look really dire. Then he'll pull out his brilliant instant win button and save the day.
I worry that there'll be a family, with some kind of estrangement going on somewhere (dad to kid, mom to dad, etc.). Figure the dad is laid back and cool but somewhat irresponsible, while the mom is responsible but too uptight. The kid will thrill us by narrowly avoiding death a couple times. A dog could feature here too. The crisis will bring the family together (Dad becoming more responsible and Mom learning to roll with things), and teach us all about something vaguely ecological at the end, but not really.
gorgon wrote: This one -- with Bryan Cranston's crazy-guy-with-a-theory ranting straight out of central casting -- has me a little less enthused.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that's turned off by the rant that was leaving teeth marks on everything.
I take it that they're featuring that rant just because Cranston is kinda hot right now coming off Breaking Bad.
But it has me wondering if he's playing the disgraced scientist with a theory, who tries desperately to get the government/military to listen to him, only to be rebuffed until things look really dire. Then he'll pull out his brilliant instant win button and save the day.
I worry that there'll be a family, with some kind of estrangement going on somewhere (dad to kid, mom to dad, etc.). Figure the dad is laid back and cool but somewhat irresponsible, while the mom is responsible but too uptight. The kid will thrill us by narrowly avoiding death a couple times. A dog could feature here too. The crisis will bring the family together (Dad becoming more responsible and Mom learning to roll with things), and teach us all about something vaguely ecological at the end, but not really.
Perhaps I'm being too negative.
Well, they DID feature him looking afraid/worried and reaching out to someone behind a closing security door.
Also, thank you for pointing out where I'd seen that guy before. I've never watched(or even had a want to watch) Breaking Bad, so he's not very identifiable to me.
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Is it just me or do you think there is another monster in this? The spindly almost insect like leg that smashes down in the trailer as well as those glowing things that look like egg pods.
Medium of Death wrote: Is it just me or do you think there is another monster in this? The spindly almost insect like leg that smashes down in the trailer as well as those glowing things that look like egg pods.
Its been notd there are two other rubber suit boys. I think you may have spotted one or both.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I'm not really that familiar with the Godzilla films but did the original have a prominent anti Nuclear War vibe to it? It looks like this one might have that as well as climate change undertones.
It's interesting that the trailer says they were trying to kill it in the 50's (presumably Godzilla?) so I wonder where it has been hiding or where they hid it. Although it does look insanely large so I doubt they'd be able to hide it anywhere (Government base or some-such.)
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I think you proceed from a false assumption. Haggis has protected your country from invasion for three centuries. However, with the pending break with the Scots, the Haggis Launchers will be taken down as part of the new DMZ treaty. You're as helpless as the rest of us against the sushi eating greatness that is Gojiro!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I'm just wiating for Gypsy Danger to make an appearance. Mega Punch Ho!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote: I think you proceed from a false assumption. Haggis has protected your country from invasion for three centuries. However, with the pending break with the Scots, the Haggis Launchers will be taken down as part of the new DMZ treaty. You're as helpless as the rest of us against the sushi eating greatness that is Gojiro!
We've still got Ireland and Wales as a buffer zone.
US = North America = Continent
UK = One BIG Island............
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Frazzled wrote: I'm just wiating for Gypsy Danger to make an appearance. Mega Punch Ho!
Well, King Kong IS too old to save us this time.
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Godzilla likes islands. Crunchy on the outside, juicy on the inside.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Toho owns the rights to American Godzilla/GINO. They put the character into Godzilla: Final Wars, declared the character(but not the movie itself as far as I know) part of the Japanese Godzilla universe/canon, and changed the name to Zilla.
In addition, it's not a Godzillasaurus.
For what it's worth, Zilla itself is actually a pretty cool monster (and the animated series was nothing short of awesome). The only problems were that her movie sucked (mostly due to the decision to turn the focus into another Roland Emmerich disaster movie with an incredibly hatable cast, instead of an actual monster movie) and she wasn't actually Godzilla.
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For what it's worth, Zilla itself is actually a pretty cool monster (and the animated series was nothing short of awesome). The only problems were that her movie sucked (mostly due to the decision to turn the focus into another Roland Emmerich disaster movie with an incredibly hatable cast, instead of an actual monster movie) and she wasn't actually Godzilla.
Cartoon Zilla isn't bad. A giant mutated iguana is actually a pretty cool premise for a kaiju and they even gave her a breath weapon for Final Wars. The problem, as you stated, is that they tried to make it Godzilla.
And that they tried to make Bueller an action movie star.
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YES, albeit in quite a specific sense. I think the '54 film is ultimately about Japanese redemption through martyrdom. By the end of the movie, Godzilla is less a symbol of nuclear weapons and more a symbol of nuclear victimhood. Godzilla also might symbolize the consequences of pre-1945 Japanese aggression come home to roost but, again, by the end of the film, the destruction of Tokyo and death of so many (i.e., the result of WW2) plays out as expiatory sacrifice, purifying the Japanese and giving them a unique moral clarity that crystalizes in show-stealing supporting character Serizawa's self-"immolation" to deny the world a fictional Japanese-invented super weapon that is, rather than Godzilla, the real stand-in for nuclear weapons.
The original Godzilla film is almost a religious ritual, a story-rite that transforms guilt and violence into innocence and pacificism. I would classify it as "spontaneous propaganda," in that it is nationalist propaganda that sprung up from popular culture rather than being disseminated by the government.
So yeah, the original movie is anti-nuclear but it is really more accurate to think of it as pro-Japanese (i.e., nationaistic).
It's difficult to imagine this (2014) movie being something similar but for the US.
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YES, albeit in quite a specific sense. I think the '54 film is ultimately about Japanese redemption through martyrdom. By the end of the movie, Godzilla is less a symbol of nuclear weapons and more a symbol of nuclear victimhood. Godzilla also might symbolize the consequences of pre-1945 Japanese aggression come home to roost but, again, by the end of the film, the destruction of Tokyo and death of so many (i.e., the result of WW2) plays out as expiatory sacrifice, purifying the Japanese and giving them a unique moral clarity that crystalizes in show-stealing supporting character Serizawa's self-"immolation" to deny the world a fictional Japanese-invented super weapon that is, rather than Godzilla, the real stand-in for nuclear weapons.
The original Godzilla film is almost a religious ritual, a story-rite that transforms guilt and violence into innocence and pacificism. I would classify it as "spontaneous propaganda," in that it is nationalist propaganda that sprung up from popular culture rather than being disseminated by the government.
It's difficult to imagine this (2014) movie being something similar but for the US.
I'd suggest anyone with the interest for the symbolism behind the original buy the Criterion Collection version, the book that comes with it is very good(if short) reading about the meanings behind the two differing versions(Japanese and US) of the original film.
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Manchu wrote: Second the Criterion release, which is gorgeous and sounds great.
@Platuan4th: Dunno if you're quoting me there to indicate you think I missed the point or what.
Sorry if it seemed that way, I was more trying to reinforce and add to your thought.
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Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
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