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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/14 08:23:06
Subject: Re:Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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As long as the rules aren't too incompatible (such as bringing in a 2e character) sure, why not?
If you bring in 3e Baharroth though I will personally smack you to death with an old metal hive tyrant.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/14 09:04:02
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Cowboy Wannabe
London
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It depends on the character.
If it is purely because you love the character, and the way he does things/changes your army/playstyle etc. then maybe.
If he is simply there to make your army that much better or as a weapon ( e.g. Marbo), then I would lean towards no.
My general feeling is no, play with the current codex, though it completely depends on the character, the opponent, and their attitude. No hard and fast rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/14 10:16:31
Subject: Re:Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
Canada
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Only if it's marbo
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DA army: 3500pts,
admech army: 600pts
ravenguard: 565 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 16:11:32
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
The Ruins of the Boston Commonwealth
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Let me clarify. I'll allow old NAMED characters. Not Lash Princes, and the like
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 17:36:40
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Unless they are broken, sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 17:40:16
Subject: Re:Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
AZ
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Remember, no one lets Marbo do anything. He shows up when HE wants to.
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"While it is true that there is a very small sub-species of geek who are adept at assembling small figures and painting them with breath taking detail; the rest of us are basically the paste eating retards who failed art class. Because of this, what we build never even faintly resembles the picture on the box when we're done." - Coyote Sharptongue
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 17:42:58
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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I think Black Templar players would benefit from being able to bring in older versions of the Emperors Champion, Grimaldus and Helbrecht. They are all pretty terriblel in the new book
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 17:51:23
Subject: Re:Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
A Place
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As much as I'd love to bring the Nightbringer to join a new necron army I would have to say no mix and match, if the just wanted to use an older codex I'd be fine with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 17:53:47
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Icculus wrote:I think Black Templar players would benefit from being able to bring in older versions of the Emperors Champion, Grimaldus and Helbrecht. They are all pretty terriblel in the new book
Well yeah but thats cheating. You cant pick and choose between codices. This discussion is rather about special characters that are no longer present in the current codex, but used to be in older codices and thus have no replacement, and who can still work well with the 6th edition ruleset.
GW wasnt ever known to produce ridiculously overpowered special characters in the first place. The only ones that come to my mind are Draigo, Tiggy and Eldrad, but they're all still kicking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 18:27:39
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Kruellagh the Vile and her scandalous outfit return!
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Dark Mechanicus and Renegade Iron Hand Dakka Blog
My Dark Mechanicus P&M Blog. Mostly Modeling as I paint very slowly. Lots of kitbashed conversions of marines and a few guard to make up a renegade Iron Hand chapter and Dark Mechanicus Allies. Bionics++ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 18:34:08
Subject: Re:Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
St. Louis, Missouri
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100% this
But in seriousness, I'll allow them in friendly games, but only if they agree to update rules/points (if needed). If it's a competition, no way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 20:06:05
Subject: Re:Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Fixture of Dakka
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So everyone voting yes to this will let someone use Solitaires with 12 attacks that wound on a 2+, ignore armour saves, and instant death on a 6?
That's an outdated codex character after all.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 20:22:18
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nah. Sorry. My templars lost their veteran skills, but gained new units. Same for your ____ codex. Let's move on. Maybe as a one-off. If you buy me a beer. Maybe.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/17 20:23:06
DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 20:22:53
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Morphing Obliterator
Elsewhere
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DarknessEternal wrote:So everyone voting yes to this will let someone use Solitaires with 12 attacks that wound on a 2+, ignore armour saves, and instant death on a 6?
That's an outdated codex character after all.
I am quoting Ashiraya (formerly know as BrotherHaraldus) here:
Short and to the point.
I am OK with lots of things (all units no longer present, FW, 30K FW, House Rules) as long as they are not broken. And I am not playing against broken things even if they are "legal" (3+ riptides, heldrakes, 2+ invul rerolls,...).
Got some nice Solitaires models? Bring them on.
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Rogal Dorn, just before taking the beating of his life.
from The Dark King, by Graham McNeill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 20:23:13
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Nope. Rules are rules and an outdated codex lost all of its value, you either keep it for the fluff or you can throw it away. You can use models, of course, but if you want to use them in a game, use an appropriate statline from the current codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 21:55:40
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Outside of tournaments, I say go for it it is a game after all. But if someone wants to bring a broken character from an older codex, they better not have any problems with me bringing in my transcendent C'tan (With twin hell storm templates) and my void shield generator
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Everything I say, barring quotes and researched information, is my personal opinion. Not fact.
"Being into 40k but not the background is like being into porn but not masturbation..." - Kain
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/17 23:36:03
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Kelne
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I used to love the Parasite of mortrex. I miss it so bad sometimes...
I'm trying to stick to the newer tyranid book, but some of my usual players already told me that they'd let me use the old codex if I wanted, so yay
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 01:19:47
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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As long as it is for flavor and not for personal gain. As the above posters example i have a friend who has a lovely converted Parasite and built a fair chunk of his army around it. New codex came out, boom, his rippers where now unusable, and he had a LOT of rippers. So we let him use the Parasite because that Parasite gave his army flavor and purpose.
To people saying no because ''It's against the rules'', remember Gamesworkshop seems to be making a point of saying the rules mean frak all compared to 'forging a narrative''.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 08:50:25
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Only if there weren't rules for said character in the current codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 10:21:40
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They wouldn't let me use my , so am sure not going to let them use theirs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/18 12:29:49
Subject: Would you let opponents use Characters from outdated Codexes?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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But what about Ol' Doom Rider! Na na, na na!
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