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The Newcron fluff basically amounts to "The Necrons were awesome before they met the C'tan and then they turned them into pokemon" instead of "The Necrons were awesome, met the C'tan, and became super shiny special awesome slaves."

Pretty much the only thing that's changed unless you go into the space ship contradictions.

Aanyway, that Necron looks like he should be in Lordi. :p

 Exergy wrote:

squidhills wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

but the Newcrons have emotions and desires, so they would feel pride.

Would they feel pride? I mean, they think everybody is a lesser race, so killing a particularly ugly member of a lesser race might not elicit much pride from the Necron responsible. They don't have the issues with Chaos that the IoM and the Eldar have, they don't relish a good fight like the Orks, so who is to say that the Necron who puts Lucius down even notices? Yeah, they feel emotions, but would they recognize killing Lucius as the sort of thing you feel pride for?
Human guy: Wow! You totally killed Lucius the Eternal!
Necron: Who?
HG: Lucius the Eternal! He's a champion of Chaos!
Necron: Who?
HG: The dark gods in the warp! Those guys! He was the champion of the crazy perverted one.
Necron: *shrug* If you say so. Oh, by the way, *Gauss Flay*
HG: Argh! *dies*

I am not sure that many people in the IoM know who Lucius is either. Just a pink heretic with a big sword. I bet 90% of the people who killed him before had no clue who he was.

And yes, now that the newcrons have desires and emotions they will feel pride, perhaps just a very small amount but enough.


Ugg I really hate the newcron fluff. It's so dumb, but that is another thread I guess.

Necrons as per Black Crusade are completely impervious to the corruptive power of Chaos, so that's a non-starter.

 Kain wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

squidhills wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

but the Newcrons have emotions and desires, so they would feel pride.

Would they feel pride? I mean, they think everybody is a lesser race, so killing a particularly ugly member of a lesser race might not elicit much pride from the Necron responsible. They don't have the issues with Chaos that the IoM and the Eldar have, they don't relish a good fight like the Orks, so who is to say that the Necron who puts Lucius down even notices? Yeah, they feel emotions, but would they recognize killing Lucius as the sort of thing you feel pride for?
Human guy: Wow! You totally killed Lucius the Eternal!
Necron: Who?
HG: Lucius the Eternal! He's a champion of Chaos!
Necron: Who?
HG: The dark gods in the warp! Those guys! He was the champion of the crazy perverted one.
Necron: *shrug* If you say so. Oh, by the way, *Gauss Flay*
HG: Argh! *dies*

I am not sure that many people in the IoM know who Lucius is either. Just a pink heretic with a big sword. I bet 90% of the people who killed him before had no clue who he was.

And yes, now that the newcrons have desires and emotions they will feel pride, perhaps just a very small amount but enough.


Ugg I really hate the newcron fluff. It's so dumb, but that is another thread I guess.

Necrons as per Black Crusade are completely impervious to the corruptive power of Chaos, so that's a non-starter.

FFG get things wrong sometimes - as noted - we know from the Necron Codex that they both suffer from time degredtation and corrosion plus the insideous Flayer virus they they can do nothing about.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

squidhills wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

but the Newcrons have emotions and desires, so they would feel pride.

Would they feel pride? I mean, they think everybody is a lesser race, so killing a particularly ugly member of a lesser race might not elicit much pride from the Necron responsible. They don't have the issues with Chaos that the IoM and the Eldar have, they don't relish a good fight like the Orks, so who is to say that the Necron who puts Lucius down even notices? Yeah, they feel emotions, but would they recognize killing Lucius as the sort of thing you feel pride for?
Human guy: Wow! You totally killed Lucius the Eternal!
Necron: Who?
HG: Lucius the Eternal! He's a champion of Chaos!
Necron: Who?
HG: The dark gods in the warp! Those guys! He was the champion of the crazy perverted one.
Necron: *shrug* If you say so. Oh, by the way, *Gauss Flay*
HG: Argh! *dies*

I am not sure that many people in the IoM know who Lucius is either. Just a pink heretic with a big sword. I bet 90% of the people who killed him before had no clue who he was.

And yes, now that the newcrons have desires and emotions they will feel pride, perhaps just a very small amount but enough.


Ugg I really hate the newcron fluff. It's so dumb, but that is another thread I guess.

Necrons as per Black Crusade are completely impervious to the corruptive power of Chaos, so that's a non-starter.

FFG get things wrong sometimes - as noted - we know from the Necron Codex that they both suffer from time degredtation and corrosion plus the insideous Flayer virus they they can do nothing about.

None of which have anything to do with the warp.

In addition most Necrons remain emotionless.

Warriors are mindless, Flayed ones are completely lost to madness and feel nothing, Destroyers are emotionless, Canopteks are unfeeling robots, and Immortals are also unfeeling; having no real ability to think about anything other than more efficiently waging war.

Warlords of the Dark Millennium says that Lucius can only truly be slain by a being with nothing but mercy in their soul.

Animus wrote:
Warlords of the Dark Millennium says that Lucius can only truly be slain by a being with nothing but mercy in their soul.

So he will be killed by a carebear?

 Kain wrote:

Animus wrote:
Warlords of the Dark Millennium says that Lucius can only truly be slain by a being with nothing but mercy in their soul.

So he will be killed by a carebear?

So a little girl who wants to end lucius suffering? Isn't that mercy?

Or maybe.... Its Alpharius...

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Kain wrote:

Animus wrote:
Warlords of the Dark Millennium says that Lucius can only truly be slain by a being with nothing but mercy in their soul.

So he will be killed by a carebear?

So a little girl who wants to end lucius suffering? Isn't that mercy?

Or maybe.... Its Alpharius...

So it will be Lolicron who ends Lucius...

Ye Gods.

 Kain wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

squidhills wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

but the Newcrons have emotions and desires, so they would feel pride.

Would they feel pride? I mean, they think everybody is a lesser race, so killing a particularly ugly member of a lesser race might not elicit much pride from the Necron responsible. They don't have the issues with Chaos that the IoM and the Eldar have, they don't relish a good fight like the Orks, so who is to say that the Necron who puts Lucius down even notices? Yeah, they feel emotions, but would they recognize killing Lucius as the sort of thing you feel pride for?
Human guy: Wow! You totally killed Lucius the Eternal!
Necron: Who?
HG: Lucius the Eternal! He's a champion of Chaos!
Necron: Who?
HG: The dark gods in the warp! Those guys! He was the champion of the crazy perverted one.
Necron: *shrug* If you say so. Oh, by the way, *Gauss Flay*
HG: Argh! *dies*

I am not sure that many people in the IoM know who Lucius is either. Just a pink heretic with a big sword. I bet 90% of the people who killed him before had no clue who he was.

And yes, now that the newcrons have desires and emotions they will feel pride, perhaps just a very small amount but enough.


Ugg I really hate the newcron fluff. It's so dumb, but that is another thread I guess.

Necrons as per Black Crusade are completely impervious to the corruptive power of Chaos, so that's a non-starter.

FFG get things wrong sometimes - as noted - we know from the Necron Codex that they both suffer from time degredtation and corrosion plus the insideous Flayer virus they they can do nothing about.

None of which have anything to do with the warp.

In addition most Necrons remain emotionless.

Warriors are mindless, Flayed ones are completely lost to madness and feel nothing, Destroyers are emotionless, Canopteks are unfeeling robots, and Immortals are also unfeeling; having no real ability to think about anything other than more efficiently waging war.

IF (as the Codex states) they are subject tp phscial laws and degredation - how can Chaos not be able to affect them in the physical plane / through the Warp?
Same with if their very minds and bodies can be re-written with the Flayer Virus (Necron Codex)?

Lychguard feel Pride and relish their bloody work (p 35 Necron Codex)
Destroyers are Insane and feel fear (P43) and iinclude Immortals

All the higher functioning Necrons feel emotions -often strong ones - can potentially have desires that Chaos (or other powers) can fulfill........................hence there is the potential for corruption

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

squidhills wrote:

 Exergy wrote:

but the Newcrons have emotions and desires, so they would feel pride.

Would they feel pride? I mean, they think everybody is a lesser race, so killing a particularly ugly member of a lesser race might not elicit much pride from the Necron responsible. They don't have the issues with Chaos that the IoM and the Eldar have, they don't relish a good fight like the Orks, so who is to say that the Necron who puts Lucius down even notices? Yeah, they feel emotions, but would they recognize killing Lucius as the sort of thing you feel pride for?
Human guy: Wow! You totally killed Lucius the Eternal!
Necron: Who?
HG: Lucius the Eternal! He's a champion of Chaos!
Necron: Who?
HG: The dark gods in the warp! Those guys! He was the champion of the crazy perverted one.
Necron: *shrug* If you say so. Oh, by the way, *Gauss Flay*
HG: Argh! *dies*

I am not sure that many people in the IoM know who Lucius is either. Just a pink heretic with a big sword. I bet 90% of the people who killed him before had no clue who he was.

And yes, now that the newcrons have desires and emotions they will feel pride, perhaps just a very small amount but enough.


Ugg I really hate the newcron fluff. It's so dumb, but that is another thread I guess.

Necrons as per Black Crusade are completely impervious to the corruptive power of Chaos, so that's a non-starter.

FFG get things wrong sometimes - as noted - we know from the Necron Codex that they both suffer from time degredtation and corrosion plus the insideous Flayer virus they they can do nothing about.

None of which have anything to do with the warp.

In addition most Necrons remain emotionless.

Warriors are mindless, Flayed ones are completely lost to madness and feel nothing, Destroyers are emotionless, Canopteks are unfeeling robots, and Immortals are also unfeeling; having no real ability to think about anything other than more efficiently waging war.

IF (as the Codex states) they are subject tp phscial laws and degredation - how can Chaos not be able to affect them in the physical plane / through the Warp?
Same with if their very minds and bodies can be re-written with the Flayer Virus (Necron Codex)?

Lychguard feel Pride and relish their bloody work (p 35 Necron Codex)
Destroyers are Insane and feel fear (P43) and iinclude Immortals

All the higher functioning Necrons feel emotions -often strong ones - can potentially have desires that Chaos (or other powers) can fulfill........................hence there is the potential for corruption

False equivalency.

Just because A affects X does not mean B affects X.

It would be like assuming that because because chocolate is poisonous to dogs, vanilla must also be poisonous to dogs because they're both sweet.

Never disputed Lychguards.

Destroyers purged themselves of all organic traits, fear and generic loathing for everything living is all they have left. Immortals are emotionless but thinking. What appears to be fear is more them deciding it's time to withdraw. Their bodies were never meant to engram their ability to have the feels. Only the nobility got that privilege.

And there simply aren't Chaos Necrons much like there simply aren't Chaos Tau and Tyranids are simply immune to Nurgle's plagues and can walk around just fine on Daemon infested worlds and actually start beating the crap out of the Daemons while they're at it.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
What it says on the can, could any necron end Lucius?

And what if Lucius steps on a landmine and die ? What if Lucius take a bath and get electrocuted by his hair dryer ?

Wohever planted the landmine would get a sudden funny feeling!

Regarding the bat, it would either be the manufacturer of the hair dryer, as the person responsible fo rthe killing weapon, or the guy who did the building electrics for not fitting a proper RCD or surge protector

 Flinty wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
What it says on the can, could any necron end Lucius?

And what if Lucius steps on a landmine and die ? What if Lucius take a bath and get electrocuted by his hair dryer ?

Wohever planted the landmine would get a sudden funny feeling!

Regarding the bat, it would either be the manufacturer of the hair dryer, as the person responsible fo rthe killing weapon, or the guy who did the building electrics for not fitting a proper RCD or surge protector

What if the person who placed the landmine was obliterated in a sun?
What if lucius commits suicide? What if he trips and falls down a pair of stairs and dies from falling down them?

What if he gets blown out an airlock into a black hole.

What if he trips and falls onto a spear?

What if he dies from embarrassment?

What if goes to his room and finds abbaddon sleeping with his demonette wife and Lucius kills abbadon and his wife and then is sent to prison for years and then finally the base gets blown up by an accidental explosion that annihilates everyone there?

And there simply aren't Chaos Necrons much like there simply aren't Chaos Tau and Tyranids are simply immune to Nurgle's plagues and can walk around just fine on Daemon infested worlds and actually start beating the crap out of the Daemons while they're at it.

There are Chaos Tyranids - both Genestealer Cults can turn to them and they can corrupted into their service - Lots of things have been to Daemon Worlds, kicked ass and survived in the various Codexes - Astartes, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Sororitas

Chaos Tau - again they are only resistant to Choas not immune - see Fire Warrior.

Chaos Eldar who still exisit in the Eye of Terror and whose descendants still form cults on the Craftworlds which the Path helps protect against.

Just because A affects X does not mean B affects X

A= Physical degredation or corruption of their material form

B= Warp magic doing /hastening the same thing

re Immortals - page 43 of the Codex:
It takes a certain freedom of personality to embrace nihilism....Destroyers therefore, almost without exception emerge from the ranks of Immortals, Lychguard and occasionally Deathmarks

Lastly many Necrons Lrods are insane or desire a return to flesh - are you saying Chaos has nothing to offer them?

 Kain wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Kain wrote:

Necrons as per Black Crusade are completely impervious to the corruptive power of Chaos, so that's a non-starter.

FFG get things wrong sometimes - as noted - we know from the Necron Codex that they both suffer from time degredtation and corrosion plus the insideous Flayer virus they they can do nothing about.

None of which have anything to do with the warp.

IF (as the Codex states) they are subject tp phscial laws and degredation - how can Chaos not be able to affect them in the physical plane / through the Warp?
Same with if their very minds and bodies can be re-written with the Flayer Virus (Necron Codex)?

Lychguard feel Pride and relish their bloody work (p 35 Necron Codex)
Destroyers are Insane and feel fear (P43) and iinclude Immortals

All the higher functioning Necrons feel emotions -often strong ones - can potentially have desires that Chaos (or other powers) can fulfill........................hence there is the potential for corruption

False equivalency.
Just because A affects X does not mean B affects X.

It would be like assuming that because because chocolate is poisonous to dogs, vanilla must also be poisonous to dogs because they're both sweet.

Destroyers purged themselves of all organic traits, fear and generic loathing for everything living is all they have left. Immortals are emotionless but thinking. What appears to be fear is more them deciding it's time to withdraw. Their bodies were never meant to engram their ability to have the feels. Only the nobility got that privilege.

And there simply aren't Chaos Necrons much like there simply aren't Chaos Tau and Tyranids are simply immune to Nurgle's plagues and can walk around just fine on Daemon infested worlds and actually start beating the crap out of the Daemons while they're at it.

This isnt about a Necron falling to Chaos and starting to worship it, it's about the necrons body being re-purposed.


The forces of chaos can corrupt, foul, bend, or change matter in the galaxy. They can also fuse man, daemon, and machine. The CSM codex describes how warpsmiths build a shell of armor and metal and then bind a daemon to it to make a daemon engine.

Either Necron's bodies are simply not subject to the rules of physics, cannot be changed, damaged, altered, or aged OR the material parts of a Necron could be combined with something from the warp to create some sort of sick hybrid, in this case, Lucius.

Stasis grenade. Boom- not dead, so no-one killed him and he gets stuck there for all eternity. Yay!

 Mr Morden wrote:

And there simply aren't Chaos Necrons much like there simply aren't Chaos Tau and Tyranids are simply immune to Nurgle's plagues and can walk around just fine on Daemon infested worlds and actually start beating the crap out of the Daemons while they're at it.

There are Chaos Tyranids - both Genestealer Cults can turn to them and they can corrupted into their service - Lots of things have been to Daemon Worlds, kicked ass and survived in the various Codexes - Astartes, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Sororitas

Chaos Tau - again they are only resistant to Choas not immune - see Fire Warrior.

Chaos Eldar who still exisit in the Eye of Terror and whose descendants still form cults on the Craftworlds which the Path helps protect against.

And then the Tyranids dove straight into a system attacked by the Death Guard at the height of the 13th black crusade, beat up both the Imperials and the Deathguard, and was noted as completely immune to Nurgle's gifts.

Newer studio fluff (corroborated by other stuff) also supports the assertion that the Tyranids are simply not bothered by Chaos, and I'm not particularly interested in what some ancient black library novel or long out of date codex has to say when newer codex fluff clearly and repeatedly demonstrates a Tyranid nigh-invulnerability to the ruinous powers. So don't even bother bringing out your novels.

Fire warrior is also ridiculously old, like the 3e Necron Codex was hot off the table and the Blood Ravens weren't even a thing yet old. It's also never referenced or even alluded to again and contains ridiculousness like a Firewarrior beating up on a Lord of Change and slaughtering his way through guardsmen, space marines, and the legions of chaos through no reason other than that he is a protagonist in an FPS game.

Chaos Eldar also haven't been mentioned save for a often misinterpreted passage in the fluff since 2e. And I never once mentioned the Eldar.

Just because A affects X does not mean B affects X

A= Physical degredation or corruption of their material form

B= Warp magic doing /hastening the same thing

re Immortals - page 43 of the Codex:
It takes a certain freedom of personality to embrace nihilism....Destroyers therefore, almost without exception emerge from the ranks of Immortals, Lychguard and occasionally Deathmarks

Lastly many Necrons Lrods are insane or desire a return to flesh - are you saying Chaos has nothing to offer them?

The brand new Tranids Codex shows that whilst the Tryanids are resistant to Choas they are absolutely not immune to it - they have Myscetic spores that fall from the sky and crash to earth rotting and dead from the plagues of Nurgle etc.....

I listed several things that the Necrons do desire / need / want - many of them want their flesh back or a cure to the Flayer virus or are simply insane......read the Codex and look at the entry for Zantragora, or simply read this passage (p9 of the Codex)

The apotheois from machine to living being - is the key motivating factor for many Necron nobles.

This is something that if anything can do - Chaos can?

The entire Tomb Worlds of the Dyvanakh Dynasty- that are apparently "immune to Chaos" were engulfed and destroyed by warpstorms - p17 Necron Codex

Another telling entry in the current codex - p85 - Strange Sciences - To the Daemons of the Warp, such tecnoligcal conjurings are merely another flavour of existence to be corrupted and devoured.

Do you really think that a Necron that falls into the Warp is inviolate?

Necrons can't even be mutated by Chaos at all.

Says one source - other Codex sources say they are prey to decay and degredation - if they are material and not immune to the natural forces of the universe - then they are not immune to Choas doing the same.

Chaos has many flaws - indeed the old Necron Codex had them as the Warps true enemies - whose plan was to close off the Warp from reality but thats all gone now - Sadly :(

Yes the Necrons are now Tomb Kings in Space - but switching to fantasy - you do realise that ALL magic comes from Chaos - thats ALL magic including that animating the dead and my beloved Vampires - thats why Nagash and other powerful Necromancers eat Warpstone to power themselves - warpstone is material magic or Chaos. The Undead do not "throw back" Chaos - they simply use the energy of the Warp/Chaos in a different manner.....

I thought Warpstone was Uranium

And to be honest, I've never been a fan of all these "what if x kills Lucius" threads. If he gets killed in some strange way then his Patron god just slaps him out of the warp in another body. Repeat until said god gets tired of him. Same way lots of Chaos champions work. Lucius just has a "little something extra" because Slaanesh was feeling froggy when handing out the blessings one morning.

 Mr Morden wrote:
The brand new Tranids Codex shows that whilst the Tryanids are resistant to Choas they are absolutely not immune to it - they have Myscetic spores that fall from the sky and crash to earth rotting and dead from the plagues of Nurgle etc.....

I listed several things that the Necrons do desire / need / want - many of them want their flesh back or a cure to the Flayer virus or are simply insane......read the Codex and look at the entry for Zantragora, or simply read this passage (p9 of the Codex)

The apotheois from machine to living being - is the key motivating factor for many Necron nobles.

This is something that if anything can do - Chaos can?

The entire Tomb Worlds of the Dyvanakh Dynasty- that are apparently "immune to Chaos" were engulfed and destroyed by warpstorms - p17 Necron Codex

Another telling entry in the current codex - p85 - Strange Sciences - To the Daemons of the Warp, such tecnoligcal conjurings are merely another flavour of existence to be corrupted and devoured.

Do you really think that a Necron that falls into the Warp is inviolate?

Necrons can't even be mutated by Chaos at all.

Says one source - other Codex sources say they are prey to decay and degredation - if they are material and not immune to the natural forces of the universe - then they are not immune to Choas doing the same.

Chaos has many flaws - indeed the old Necron Codex had them as the Warps true enemies - whose plan was to close off the Warp from reality but thats all gone now - Sadly :(

Yes the Necrons are now Tomb Kings in Space - but switching to fantasy - you do realise that ALL magic comes from Chaos - thats ALL magic including that animating the dead and my beloved Vampires - thats why Nagash and other powerful Necromancers eat Warpstone to power themselves - warpstone is material magic or Chaos. The Undead do not "throw back" Chaos - they simply use the energy of the Warp/Chaos in a different manner.....

They promptly adapted beyond Chaos' ability to affect them, and it was also noted that Chaos draws nothing from them. Even Tyranid gore does not feed Khorne, being noted as worthless ichor.

Also, the C'tan utilize entirely different powers than the Dark Gods. It's like trying to say you're immune to the Silver Surfer's power cosmic just because you can shrug off Doctor Strange's magic. It's a non-sequitur argument. They both do reality twisty voodoo but it's done through entirely different methods and is stopped by entirely different things.

And Necrons also would consider the Chaos Gods as little more than young whipper snappers to be put in their place like everything else. The Necrons humbled two generations of gods before Chaos was a word on anyone's lips.

As absolutely no Necrons have ever accepted Chaos' offerings, with the Maynarkh dynasty not given a single feth about the rantings of the followers of Chaos next door to their purge, I don't think anyone's buying their offer.

The necrons only want biotransferrence on their own terms with all other life enslaved to them.

They don't bargain with lesser beings and they certainly don't treat with gods given their history with beings who claimed to be divine.

And a pariah is more or less impossible to mutate via chaos. A distortion gun that opens a portal to the warp kills him just as dead. Your argument does not follow.

And the Necrons still would very much like the warp to be gone forever. They made the Pylons after all and can always make more as more of them awaken. Chaos is not omnipotent or even the primary threat, it's simply part of the big four along with the Orks, Necrons, and Tyranids.

As for the Undead, when the Winds of Magic blow in to create Chaos Spawn, the Undead are not only not bothered, but they can instill their own evil reverse corruption.

 Kain wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
The brand new Tranids Codex shows that whilst the Tryanids are resistant to Choas they are absolutely not immune to it - they have Myscetic spores that fall from the sky and crash to earth rotting and dead from the plagues of Nurgle etc.....

I listed several things that the Necrons do desire / need / want - many of them want their flesh back or a cure to the Flayer virus or are simply insane......read the Codex and look at the entry for Zantragora, or simply read this passage (p9 of the Codex)

The apotheois from machine to living being - is the key motivating factor for many Necron nobles.

This is something that if anything can do - Chaos can?

The entire Tomb Worlds of the Dyvanakh Dynasty- that are apparently "immune to Chaos" were engulfed and destroyed by warpstorms - p17 Necron Codex

Another telling entry in the current codex - p85 - Strange Sciences - To the Daemons of the Warp, such tecnoligcal conjurings are merely another flavour of existence to be corrupted and devoured.

Do you really think that a Necron that falls into the Warp is inviolate?

Necrons can't even be mutated by Chaos at all.

Says one source - other Codex sources say they are prey to decay and degredation - if they are material and not immune to the natural forces of the universe - then they are not immune to Choas doing the same.

Chaos has many flaws - indeed the old Necron Codex had them as the Warps true enemies - whose plan was to close off the Warp from reality but thats all gone now - Sadly :(

Yes the Necrons are now Tomb Kings in Space - but switching to fantasy - you do realise that ALL magic comes from Chaos - thats ALL magic including that animating the dead and my beloved Vampires - thats why Nagash and other powerful Necromancers eat Warpstone to power themselves - warpstone is material magic or Chaos. The Undead do not "throw back" Chaos - they simply use the energy of the Warp/Chaos in a different manner.....

They promptly adapted beyond Chaos' ability to affect them, and it was also noted that Chaos draws nothing from them. Even Tyranid gore does not feed Khorne, being noted as worthless ichor.

Also, the C'tan utilize entirely different powers than the Dark Gods. It's like trying to say you're immune to the Silver Surfer's power cosmic just because you can shrug off Doctor Strange's magic. It's a non-sequitur argument. They both do reality twisty voodoo but it's done through entirely different methods and is stopped by entirely different things.

And Necrons also would consider the Chaos Gods as little more than young whipper snappers to be put in their place like everything else. The Necrons humbled two generations of gods before Chaos was a word on anyone's lips.

As absolutely no Necrons have ever accepted Chaos' offerings, with the Maynarkh dynasty not given a single feth about the rantings of the followers of Chaos next door to their purge, I don't think anyone's buying their offer.

The necrons only want biotransferrence on their own terms with all other life enslaved to them.

They don't bargain with lesser beings and they certainly don't treat with gods given their history with beings who claimed to be divine.

And a pariah is more or less impossible to mutate via chaos. A distortion gun that opens a portal to the warp kills him just as dead. Your argument does not follow.

And the Necrons still would very much like the warp to be gone forever. They made the Pylons after all and can always make more as more of them awaken. Chaos is not omnipotent or even the primary threat, it's simply part of the big four along with the Orks, Necrons, and Tyranids.

As for the Undead, when the Winds of Magic blow in to create Chaos Spawn, the Undead are not only not bothered, but they can instill their own evil reverse corruption.

They do treat with other races they consider technological equal - the Eldar are considered such but dishonourable so they don't get that respect (p30 of the Codex), The Imperium doesn;t rate it nor do the Tau but there are older Xenos amongst the Stars

Your argument is that the Warp cannot harm the Necrons - so why does being immersed in the Warp destroy whole Tomb Worlds if they are immune - Wht does being transported into the Warp even harm them if they can not be harmed by the Warp?

Sadly they seem to playing down the whole Chaos versus Law (Necrons) war now - I prefered it when the Necrons where an implacable threat - now they are squablling Empires - Tomb Kings in Space

Chaos and the Warp is beyond time - it predates the Necrons - the Old Ones/Slann and Proto Eldar used Warp Magicks against the Necrons - its still a weakness - hence their need for Null Fields to protect themselves and the effectiveness of psykers against the Necrons as shwn in recent Expansions like Damnos.

I would say Chaos is the Primary Threat, followed by Tyranids, Orks and Necrons - unless the Necrons seal it off from reality - or the Tyranids devour all life - Chaos endures and gnaws at the universe.............

Fantasy

The Winds of Magic power the undead - thats what Syish and Dhar do - allow the very existance of the Undead - if there is no magic = warp = Chaos, there is no Undead....

 Mr Morden wrote:

Chaos and the Warp is beyond time - it predates the Necrons - the Old Ones/Slann and Proto Eldar used Warp Magicks against the Necrons - its still a weakness - hence their need for Null Fields to protect themselves and the effectiveness of psykers against the Necrons as shwn in recent Expansions like Damnos.

I would say Chaos is the Primary Threat, followed by Tyranids, Orks and Necrons - unless the Necrons seal it off from reality - or the Tyranids devour all life - Chaos endures and gnaws at the universe.............

Might be a bit biaised cause i'm a Tyranid player, but they seem to be the greater threat. Demons are only in one galaxy (i've seen it said a few times, maybe cause of humans?) wich would explain why they had no idea who the Tyranid were at first ( they come from 1 or more galaxy away). If the Tyranid annihilated galaxies, then just one here won't be a problem. If they are fleeing from a greater enemie, at least they are able to travel to other galaxies, wich is more then ...every faction can say.

Tyranids seems to be the perfect counter for Chaos as well. They block the warp, they are uncorruptible, they kill chaos' food source (humans, eldar, etc)
Orks are extremely dangerous, but can't win against Tyranid. They have to devote further ressource while the Tyranids gets self-substained with all the food that comes. And orks seem like an even easier target for a poison/disease that targets them specifically.
Necrons are Tyranids counter it seems. Most advanced tech, they don't use psyker/aren't affected by Shadow in the Warp (i think). They don't offer much nourishment to be worth the trouble of fighting.
Orks could really hurt Chaos too. The more they win, the less souls there is for Chaos and they are almost incorruptible it seems.

Tyranids and Necrons seem like the biggest equal threat.
Then on the same danger level, Chaos, Orks and Emperium. (Emperium is probably the only faction insane enough to mass exterminatus everything, including themselves, just to make it a "draw" instead of losing)

The first time he died it was to a Raven Guard warrior who straight up told him that he felt no pride in the kill, and that he viewed it the same as putting down a sick dog.

Lucius returned to life in his same body, whole, hours later not knowing how he came back. I'd guess it would be the same here.

Wulfmar wrote:Hairdryer = Lucius the Fabulous

I sense a really neat relic for the next CSM codex.

May replace any weapon with... Lucius the Fabulous... 40 pts.

Anyways, it's slaanesh that's preventing him from being killed in the first place. As a chaos god, he's probably powerful enough to stop her one super champion of awesomeness from falling down the stairs and breaking his neck or accidentally electrocuting himself while trying to make toast for breakfast.

There's an idea - maybe we got the fluff wrong and misread it. Maybe it states that Lucius returns in the form of what killed him.


Somewhere out there in the grim 41st millennium is a murderous toaster, filled with spite and curranty buns.

Evil toasters...

Lucius is a perpetual, surprised no one has worked this out yet, sharokin killed him and he is back a short while later, this is pre slaanesh possession of another body.

 Ascalam wrote:

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
Even if he feels pride, can a robot even mutate into Lucius? Necrons are 100% metal right?

Side note: after that last sentence I have a strong desire to see an image of a necron with an electric guitar

There you go

Wait, don't let this get off topic... Back to the Necron Slash.