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And yet hundreds of porn actresses DO NOT kill themselves. Crazy how that works, eh?

I still say everyone is bad people, perhaps a step or two away from being actual and genuine monsters. If we just kill everyone, literally all of humanity, we can make the world a better place.

 cincydooley wrote:
And yet hundreds of porn actresses DO NOT kill themselves. Crazy how that works, eh?

Statistically speaking, most people don't kill themselves. That doesn't mean that there aren't legitimate problems in society that exist.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Just to put this out there, the kids can be persecuted for harassment.

Which is a joke.

Why?

I'm tired of bullying getting tossed out so cavalierly and becoming the go to for anytime someone does something foolish.

It's becoming to much of a crutch when we don't want to take personal accountability for things.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Just to put this out there, the kids can be persecuted for harassment.

Which is a joke.

Why?

Because they didn't do anything wrong. Being an donkey-cave isn't illegal in the United States.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Just to put this out there, the kids can be persecuted for harassment.

Please cite the statute.
Please cite cases that have been successfully prosecuted.

 cincydooley wrote:
I'm tired of bullying getting tossed out so cavalierly and becoming the go to for anytime someone does something foolish.

It's becoming to much of a crutch when we don't want to take personal accountability for things.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Just to put this out there, the kids can be persecuted for harassment.

Which is a joke.

Why?

Because they didn't do anything wrong. Being an donkey-cave isn't illegal in the United States.

No, but harassment is.

"...the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill, or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone fearful or anxious. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you, if you'll go to bed with me"). The victim may file a petition for a "stay away" (restraining) order, intended to prevent contact by the offensive party. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker."

Again, please cite a statute and successful case law where your nonTitle 9 / EEOC harassment claim has been prosecuted.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Because they didn't do anything wrong.

Sure they did, they just didn't do anything illegal; being a gakker may not be illegal, but it is still being a gakker.

She must have had some issues, because typically if you are a straight A student trying to go to med school you don't get involved in making porn where you are easily seen and recognized if for no other reason then you don't want it to show up when you are doing your application for Med School.

Sorry, didn't see your first post. I don't know, I was just putting that out there. I think stalkers are prosecuted for harassment. Also, this was on the first page of Google http://crime.about.com/od/online/a/web_harass.htm.

I'm not sure what your question has to do with anything however.

 Ahtman wrote:


She must have had some issues, because typically if you are a straight A student trying to go to med school you don't get involved in making porn where you are easily seen and recognized if for no other reason then you don't want it to show up when you are doing your application for Med School.

There's a porn actress named Gauge who put herself through nursing school by ... well, fething on camera. After graduation, she found it difficult to get a job in her field without enduring a lot of harassment from coworkers (the women were all judgemental, the men were all creepers) so she ended up going back to doing porn. Admittedly, she was trying to work in the medical field in Alabama, which has a pretty gosh darned conservative mindset. If she'd gone to work in a hospital in LA, I doubt anyone would've noticed her among all the other medical professionals who used to be porn stars.

squidhills wrote:
After graduation, she found it difficult to get a job in her field without enduring a lot of harassment from coworkers (the women were all judgemental, the men were all creepers)

People are jerks!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

squidhills wrote:
After graduation, she found it difficult to get a job in her field without enduring a lot of harassment from coworkers (the women were all judgemental, the men were all creepers)

People are jerks!

It's really hard not to make a tasteless joke about now.

squidhills wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:


She must have had some issues, because typically if you are a straight A student trying to go to med school you don't get involved in making porn where you are easily seen and recognized if for no other reason then you don't want it to show up when you are doing your application for Med School.

After graduation, she found it difficult to get a job in her field without enduring a lot of harassment from coworkers

That's weird and certainly not what one could expect. I'd have assumed her collegues would appreciate her in-depth knowledge of the human body.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
It's really hard not to make a tasteless joke about now.

Well, there was no pun intended when I posted my message.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
It's really hard not to make a tasteless joke about now.

Well, there was no pun intended when I posted my message.

But you see how easy it is, right.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Because they didn't do anything wrong.

Sure they did, they just didn't do anything illegal; being a gakker may not be illegal, but it is still being a gakker.

Agreed.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Because they didn't do anything wrong.

Sure they did, they just didn't do anything illegal; being a gakker may not be illegal, but it is still being a gakker.

Agreed.

Just a minor point, there was a quote mix up, didn't actually say that. I don't know enough to know if it is true or not. The mix up is fixed now. It was cincydooley.

Yes. Yes it was. Even thinking about prosecuting them is laughable in my eyes.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

squidhills wrote:
After graduation, she found it difficult to get a job in her field without enduring a lot of harassment from coworkers (the women were all judgemental, the men were all creepers)

People are jerks!

It's really hard not to make a tasteless joke about now.

Jerks...girl in porn...with guys...hmm, don't see any way to make a joke on this

 cincydooley wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Good to see blaming the victim is, as always, alive and well on Dakka Dakka.

There is no blaming the victim going on. There is however, defense of the right of free speech going on. Please recognize the difference.

I'll note the victim offed herself. No crime was committed, EXCEPT BY HER, TO HERSELF.

Well [redacted] anymore.

What the hell dude?

 Sigvatr wrote:
Jerks...girl in porn...with guys...hmm, don't see any way to make a joke on this

Given she is dead, I do not see any way to make a tactful joke on this.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Jerks...girl in porn...with guys...hmm, don't see any way to make a joke on this

Given she is dead, I do not see any way to make a tactful joke on this.

True, no need for inconsiderate knee-jerk jokes.

 Chongara wrote:


What the hell dude?

You're going to have to be more specific.

 Ahtman wrote:
She must have had some issues, because typically if you are a straight A student trying to go to med school you don't get involved in making porn where you are easily seen and recognized if for no other reason then you don't want it to show up when you are doing your application for Med School.

I feel like I'm the only one who read the full article.

She had issues with depression, her dad was in and out of jail, her mom and her mom's boyfriend were dealing drugs and had child neglect convictions, and so on.

 Seaward wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
She must have had some issues, because typically if you are a straight A student trying to go to med school you don't get involved in making porn where you are easily seen and recognized if for no other reason then you don't want it to show up when you are doing your application for Med School.

I feel like I'm the only one who read the full article.

She had issues with depression, her dad was in and out of jail, her mom and her mom's boyfriend were dealing drugs and had child neglect convictions, and so on.

From another article:

The young woman told her mother that she was upset about all the cruel messages and texts she was receiving from old classmates at Stillwater High School. The students were reportedly crowding around tables to mock Alyssa’s Casting Couch sex tape on their phones.
She texted her mom, “I don’t want to be here anymore. I want to die.”
“I was shopping at Wal-Mart,” Melissa said. “So I said, ‘I’m going to call you as soon as I get home.’ She said, ‘Ok, I’m going to take a shower. I love you!’”


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/alyssa-funke-story-teen-committed-suicide-porn-flick-bullied-life-mom-article-1.1804216#ixzz3324NmQNe

I'd like to emphasize that last line. Nicely done mom. Can we not give this obviously terrible parent her 15 minutes please.

 Seaward wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
She must have had some issues, because typically if you are a straight A student trying to go to med school you don't get involved in making porn where you are easily seen and recognized if for no other reason then you don't want it to show up when you are doing your application for Med School.

I feel like I'm the only one who read the full article.

She had issues with depression, her dad was in and out of jail, her mom and her mom's boyfriend were dealing drugs and had child neglect convictions, and so on.

I'm not sure I feel that makes the way she was treated any less terrible. I'm not going to scream "zomg bully bully bully!!!", but for feth's sake it's odd how hard of a time people have being human.

I really don't understand why you would harass someone for doing a skin flick?

Our Puritan heritage sure did feth us up.

All of those are contributing factors to both the suicide and, likely, her choice to doing porn. A lot of young girls starting porn suffer from or show similar signs of a minor depression and lack self-confidence. It's easy to convince such people to do stuff they normally wouldn't do and thus, they are an easy prey for money-making porn-producers.

She willingly chose to do porn. Period. The problem is that she could not foresee the outcome of her doings (despite for a normal person people's reactions would have been easy to expect) and it may have been the last drop.

This being said, neither side is not guilty on this matter. She brought this upon herself and the others brought it down on her (no sexual innuendo intended) resulting in the tragic climax (no sexual innuendo intended).

 Easy E wrote:
I really don't understand why you would harass someone for doing a skin flick?

Mostly sexual insecurity.

Feel insecure, make others insecure to make yourself feel less insecure / more secure. Basic psychological defense mechanism.

 daedalus wrote:
I'm not sure I feel that makes the way she was treated any less terrible. I'm not going to scream "zomg bully bully bully!!!", but for feth's sake it's odd how hard of a time people have being human.

Ahtman opined that she must have had some other issues. I pointed out some of them.

I've refrained from jumping into the debate over whether or not we need to figure out a way to force people to be nice to each other at all times on social media because I know Dakka OT loves to saddle up the horse and white knight off into the sunset on that kind of topic, and pointing out that she was in fact likely a fethed up kid was not meant to reflect an opinion on how terribly she was treated.