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I'd much rather they cleaned up the current factions so that the Imperium consisted of an all encompassing loyalist marine book, a Guard book, and an ecclesiarchy/ordo/other stuff book. Then give chaos a Chaos Daemon, a proper Chaos Marine book with renegades and legions, and a Lost and the Damned/Chaos Guard book.

Then I'd think about adding an entirely new faction/codex.

Not one with a codex, no.

Ummm...good question. I was thinking a Protoss type force. I mean we don't really have an army that is really Alien like. I mean SUPER alien like....

 Malik_Raynor wrote:
Ummm...good question. I was thinking a Protoss type force. I mean we don't really have an army that is really Alien like. I mean SUPER alien like....

The Tyranids. They are very Alien like. Especially genestealers.

Is anything missing in the 40k verse ?

- fantasy in space: space knights, space orkz, space elfs, space undead, space chaos, space humans, etc

..already exists.

- aliens? the "robots", the bio-threat, the spiritual and the warp threat, etc.

..already exists.

Can't see a place to fill.

What we got lately from GW, was a codex built around a single plastic kit ( imperial knights ), the SoB and =I= digitalized and thus moved to the "2nd line".
I'd guess a new race would need a lot of effort and a empty spot to fit in. Both seem unavailable...

I don't want anyones stuff "swapped" or "moved" or "deleted".
From a wishlist POV, maybe the whole needs a new structure. Codices here, supplements there; a mix of multi-format and digital only; if I had to consider to join 40k currently am not sure a "new race" would sell the 40k-verse. So sadly the answer to the OP is : NO.




purge the xeno, the mutant, the heretic
I got enough targets right now.

I would like to see more sub factions for the tau or other mercenaries either human or alien like the tarellian dog soldiers they look cool in pictures and would give the tau some punch in cc. And also definitely mechanicum rules I don't even care about models as there is so much room for conversions from other kits and that just gives a whole new level of fun for modelers like me

Theoretically I'd love one but as someone mentioned earlier the pace and volume of updates in the actual game of late is mindboggling. I collect 5 armies and simply cant keep up anymore cash-wise despite having a decent income yadda yadda.
I'd love to see a new unique race with different values and goals ala Nids but starting it all over again as a collection/faction?

Besides Mechanicus.

No.

Maybe an advance fleet of whatever it is that is chasing the Tyranids out of their home galaxy could show up. (One theory of the Nid expansion into the 40kverse).
Maybe they could be long lost cousins of the Old Ones that went down a mecha/AI path instead of spore based servants. With little in the way of organic matter they would have been tough for the Tyranids to out compete, got the upper hand and driven them out towards our galaxy.
So a kind of Ork sympathetic Old One Mechanicum faction with lots of out-there mecha/robotic minions operating with a synapse like neural network on the battle field.
Otherwise I'd love to see a Mechanicum codex. I'd collect the gak out of that.

 Malik_Raynor wrote:
Ummm...good question. I was thinking a Protoss type force.

Eldar. Protoss were based off of Eldar anyway.

 Malik_Raynor wrote:
I mean we don't really have an army that is really Alien like. I mean SUPER alien like....

Tyranids.

When GW updates Sisters, gives Imperial Knights/MTS more units and makes a proper Inquisition codex is when they can consider a new faction.

 Mr Nobody wrote:
I like the vespid and kroot models.

Ok, the Kroot models are great. They are just not very useful in game terms.

The Vespid; well, YMMV.

 mekugi wrote:

Otherwise I'd love to see a Mechanicum codex. I'd collect the gak out of that.

This.

I've started on an Ad Mech army from the Horus Heresy books but I'd love to see a proper codex with a full range of models as well.

 mekugi wrote:
Maybe an advance fleet of whatever it is that is chasing the Tyranids out of their home galaxy could show up. (One theory of the Nid expansion into the 40kverse).
Maybe they could be long lost cousins of the Old Ones that went down a mecha/AI path instead of spore based servants. With little in the way of organic matter they would have been tough for the Tyranids to out compete, got the upper hand and driven them out towards our galaxy.
So a kind of Ork sympathetic Old One Mechanicum faction with lots of out-there mecha/robotic minions operating with a synapse like neural network on the battle field.
Otherwise I'd love to see a Mechanicum codex. I'd collect the gak out of that.

Spoiler: It's a C'tan.


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 Inquisitor Gonzo wrote:

 mekugi wrote:

Otherwise I'd love to see a Mechanicum codex. I'd collect the gak out of that.

This.

I've started on an Ad Mech army from the Horus Heresy books but I'd love to see a proper codex with a full range of models as well.

Eh, the Horus Heresy lists are as valid as any standalone codex and better written to boot.

Return of the squats, Slann, Fimir and Zoats!

Something like the forces of the Ori. They have entered the galaxy but are fundamentally the same as an existing force (whilst having a unique look and feel of their culture) but are trying to establish a beachhead using jump gates (of a sort)

They could even have a prior type cast that would fill the gap for not having psykers as they may not have the warp from wherever their galaxy is

The Rak'Gol. http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Rak%27Gol

 ashcroft wrote:
Yes I would. It's been over a decade since the Tau were introduced and there's been nothing new since except for endless imperial subfactions, which is the last thing we need more of.

I don't know what exactly I'd like to see, but something new and different would be welcome.

Thank you sir!

The Rak'Gol are pretty awesome...

I couldnt help but get a little butthurt when someone said consolidate all SM chapters except gray knights. Blood angels are IMO much more unique with ten times better fluff and came out wayyyyyy before grey knights. Sorry but if they "streamlined" my BA i would rage quit the game.


BA are SM on crack...

BA use completely different units and have tons of special characters... for the most part...

Our tanks are better.

Our assault is better

We have tons of different rules

Mephy alone is worthy of his own codex.

"consolidate all but grey knights" --- one big freaking sigh

When it comes to new army lists for 40k, there are two things I want to see:
An equivalent of the old Dogs of War army list for fantasy. Some minor alien races (Hrud), "pirate" versions of a couple existing major ones, some mutants. It's a good way to throw in a little something to make everyone happy without introducing a billion new codices. Also, it'd make life a little easier for those of us who play LaTD, since a counts-as LaTD from a 40k Dogs of War list would be a lot simpler (thanks 7th ed for lazily lumping all the IoM forces together and screwing over my Traitor Guard ).

Bring back White Dwarf army lists!!! And then keep them updated with new editions! These were great back in the day and would make the magazine worth buying again. You could have Genestealer Cults, all kinds of different Eldar, Chaos (Fallen Angels!), and Imperium factions, the previously mentioned Lost and the Damned... Eh, who am I kidding. This will never happen. The Farsight Enclave should've been a White Dwarf list. GW has realized they can make a $50 "supplemental codex" with 5 new rules in it instead. Never mind that this slows their main codex releases, or that fans have stopped buying from them cause they're sick of of their crap. The GW team knows best, even if sales numbers continue to tell them otherwise.

The Angyls from that famous WH50k/60k fan fiction were pretty cool but as the title of the story says, it would need for the whole setting to evolve in something different, so, no way. But overall I love the concept of a dystopian order army/faction.

Anyway I think there are already enough (if not too many) important races in the game.

lawlskees wrote:
I couldnt help but get a little butthurt when someone said consolidate all SM chapters except gray knights. Blood angels are IMO much more unique with ten times better fluff and came out wayyyyyy before grey knights. Sorry but if they "streamlined" my BA i would rage quit the game.


BA are SM on crack...

BA use completely different units and have tons of special characters... for the most part...

Our tanks are better.

Our assault is better

We have tons of different rules

Mephy alone is worthy of his own codex.

"consolidate all but grey knights" --- one big freaking sigh

Adding the word "Blood" to stuff does not unique make.

Agree with most of the posts..
GW has a great IP with a variety of races they he vent even touched yet.. Like mechanicum or exodites eldar
And a variety of aliens they'd yet to flesh out (seriously we didn't need tau, not saying they weren't a good addition, just a lot out there like the demiurge already.

Ultimately though the current GW just doesn't have the skills nor the organisation to be successful at such a risky financial venture... The wider fan see doesn't trust them with a new rule book nevertheless a new army

lawlskees wrote:
I couldnt help but get a little butthurt when someone said consolidate all SM chapters except gray knights. Blood angels are IMO much more unique with ten times better fluff and came out wayyyyyy before grey knights. Sorry but if they "streamlined" my BA i would rage quit the game.


BA are SM on crack...

BA use completely different units and have tons of special characters... for the most part...

Our tanks are better.

Our assault is better

We have tons of different rules

Mephy alone is worthy of his own codex.

"consolidate all but grey knights" --- one big freaking sigh

I'm not sure you realize how your arguement sounds but it sounds well.. poor. it sounds like you're basiclty saying "YOU CAN'T COMBINE BLOOD ANGELS AND VANILLA MARIENS TOGETHER! BLOOD ANGELS ARE JUST BETTER!"

a better arguement would be to explain how the blood angels are, or aren't, radically differnt from vanilla space marines, eneugh to justify their own codex. as opposed to being rolled into vanilla marines, given their own chapter tactics and maybe a unique unit or two tied to that chapter tactics.
Me personally I'm not sure I agree with the idea of putting ALL space Marines in a single codex (space wovles at the very least are radiclly differnt as they're not even vaguely a codex chapter) it IS a valid question to ask why do mostly codex chapters such as the blood and dark angels merit their own codexes?

BrianDavion wrote:

lawlskees wrote:
I couldnt help but get a little butthurt when someone said consolidate all SM chapters except gray knights. Blood angels are IMO much more unique with ten times better fluff and came out wayyyyyy before grey knights. Sorry but if they "streamlined" my BA i would rage quit the game.


BA are SM on crack...

BA use completely different units and have tons of special characters... for the most part...

Our tanks are better.

Our assault is better

We have tons of different rules

Mephy alone is worthy of his own codex.

"consolidate all but grey knights" --- one big freaking sigh

I'm not sure you realize how your arguement sounds but it sounds well.. poor. it sounds like you're basiclty saying "YOU CAN'T COMBINE BLOOD ANGELS AND VANILLA MARIENS TOGETHER! BLOOD ANGELS ARE JUST BETTER!"

a better arguement would be to explain how the blood angels are, or aren't, radically differnt from vanilla space marines, eneugh to justify their own codex. as opposed to being rolled into vanilla marines, given their own chapter tactics and maybe a unique unit or two tied to that chapter tactics.
Me personally I'm not sure I agree with the idea of putting ALL space Marines in a single codex (space wovles at the very least are radiclly differnt as they're not even vaguely a codex chapter) it IS a valid question to ask why do mostly codex chapters such as the blood and dark angels merit their own codexes?

The funny thing is that the Blood Angels have all of those special units and rules as a cheap justification to exist as their own army and get their own codex.

I wasn't trying to come up with some sophisticated argument as to why, nor was i trying to act all intelligent. SO my apologies for not having an articulated argument to satisfy your criteria. Hehe.

Anyways. My point was just trying to add a little humor while pointing out some simple facts about blood angels that make them different from vanilla SM. If people will back grey knights having their own codex I think its hypocritical to say blood angels shouldn't. They came way before grey knights (I think back in 2nd edition) and are in reality, so much different. What It all comes down to is personal preference, so it really doesn't matter. GW has their own agenda for blood angels and they will continue to get their own codex so. I guess I win in the end? Anyone who plays blood angels or knows how they work should know they aren't anything like Vanilla Marines. Same with Dark Angels. Look at necrons for example. They started off with few rules and units (3rd ed) included in some other book and now they have so many rules and units they have their own codex. It's the same deal for blood angels. Trying to fit all the different units and rules into space marines codex would be ridiculous. You can do that with imperial fists or black templars because they basically share the same the same qualities as Vanilla....with a few exceptions. TO GW its obviously all about money, but I think it's fair to say both grey knights and blood angels should get their own codex. The issue isn't the ones that exist, it's that GW has figured out people keep buying the suppliments and whatnot. SO they are going to keep popping them out. In my honest opinion, maybe they should have done a completely different race then grey knights in the first place, because back then we already had dark angels, blood angels, and vanilla.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion however.

They should have 3 SM Codices. Codex-Adherent, Not Codex-Adherent and Chaos Space Marines.

I'd be happy to see:
Demiurg, a.k.a. Squats, a.k.a. Space Dwarfs
Hrudd, a.k.a. Space Skaven, a.k.a. Ratmen
Genestealer Cults

What I'd be delighted to see is a book of mercenary races. One codex, that can ally with, almost, everyone, sorry Tyranids.

You could throw in Ogryn, Kroot, whatever those winged things from the Tau codex are called, human mercs, Eldar Corsairs, Blood Axe Kommando Orks, Wryds, Hrudd scouts, Demiurg Engineers, and a few new races into one supplement. Create a few colorful personailities as HQ choices, for all Merc forces. LIke they did years ago as Dogs of War, in Fantasy.

 adamsouza wrote:
LIke they did years ago as Dogs of War, in Fantasy.

That did not end well, and I would rather they do not yet again start some army, sell models to people, get them to paint the models, do tons of conversions, get invested into an army, and then poof, remove the rules to play said army. That is a real jerk move to do.