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 Mywik wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
For Grey Hunters how much do melta guns and plasma guns cost?

For Wolf Guard how much do combi-weapons cost? (I assume the WG upgrade for GH has combi-weapons that cost the same as the regular WG?)

For WG terminators how much do combi-weapons cost?

5/10/15 for the special weapons.
5 for all combis for termis

To clarify, it is 5 for a flamer, 10 for a melta and 15 for a plasma??? If so yikes.
What's the combi-weapon cost for a power armored WG?

thanks for this

1) Lone Wolf entry in comparison to the old one.

i.e. general cost, special rules, weapon & armor options

2) Is it true you can have only one Venerable with the Axe/Shield combo?

3) Are Rune Priests lvl 2 base? What point cost base? And how much is termi-armor?

4) Wolf Guard Terminator. Do they have a seperate entry,can they take single wolf claws? How much are combi-weapons?

Thanks!

Ignore any previously answered questions while I was typing this

 buddha wrote:
Thank you for providing this info!

My question is around eternal warrior. Other than Logan, do characters like Arjac still have EW? Speaking of Arjac, is he an upgrade to jormal wolf guard or just terminator wolf guard (i assume they are sperate entries now) and what is his cost looking like?

Finally, what do the upgrade options for GHs look like? Can the oh so rumored plasma spam aquad become a reality?

Thanks again.

Arjac isnt EW anymore. Only EW models are Lone Wolves and logan. Arjac is 115pts and he isnt an upgrade but an IC now.
No plasma spam GH in this codex.

 Mywik wrote:

No plasma spam GH in this codex.

What? Explain that, because now I am wondering if you actually have the codex.

I know for a fact that a full GH can take 2 plasma guns and a plasma pistol. The upgraded WG character for that GH squad can almost certainly take a combi-weapon. So two PGs, one pistol, one combi-plasma. That sounds like plasma spam to me (though it may be quite expensive to field).

sturguard wrote:
Can you give any info on Lone Wolves, still there, what kind of options available?
Can terminators/ie models in Terminator Armor Deepstrike?
Is it true WG are split between Power Armor and Terminators?
Can squad upgrade their pack leader to have termie armor and an assault cannon?
Fenrisian wolves- anything different?

Thanks so much.

Termis cant deepstrike. WG are now two different entries, yes.
Wolf Guard Pack leaders cant take termi heavy weapons but can be upgraded to wear termi armor.
Fenrisian Wolves didnt change much if at all.


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Super Newb wrote:

 Mywik wrote:

No plasma spam GH in this codex.

What? Explain that, because now I am wondering if you actually have the codex.

I know for a fact that a full GH can take 2 plasma guns and a plasma pistol. The upgraded WG character for that GH squad can almost certainly take a combi-weapon. So two PGs, one pistol, one combi-plasma. That sounds like plasma spam to me (though it may be quite expensive to field).

DIdnt even read these rumours. They can take 2 special weapons if 10. 1 Plasma pistol and the termi can too. Overlooked it.

Sorry bud if i dont see everything. Im flipping through the book trying to answer all questions. Its not as easy as you may think.

My advice is to slow down then. Why rush through and give sloppy crappy answers? That stresses you out and just results in people asking more follow-up questions.

Are you sure Terminators cant deep strike? Do they have a rule saying they can't as that is what prohibited them in the previous edition.

 Hulksmash wrote:
thanks for this

1) Lone Wolf entry in comparison to the old one.

i.e. general cost, special rules, weapon & armor options

2) Is it true you can have only one Venerable with the Axe/Shield combo?

3) Are Rune Priests lvl 2 base? What point cost base? And how much is termi-armor?

4) Wolf Guard Terminator. Do they have a seperate entry,can they take single wolf claws? How much are combi-weapons?

Thanks!

Ignore any previously answered questions while I was typing this

1)Lone Wolf 20 base. Can take the same as regular WG.
2) DIdnt look into these so far sorry.
3) ml1 base. 60 pts. ML2 is 25pts.
4) Yes. Combiweapons are 5. They have a different entry. They can take 1 or 2 wolfclaws. The pair is a diferent entry in the weapons list.

sturguard wrote:
Are you sure Terminators cant deep strike? Do they have a rule saying they can't as that is what prohibited them in the previous edition.

Not to be a jerk, but in the rumors thread it states for Logan:

Taking the Chariot removes the deepstriking rule (Which is granted by Termi armor) ??

Things are starting to run into each other now..

Thank you for doing this, other questions that come to mind:

- did the point costs for TDA Wolf Guard gear decrease, for example are TDA Wolf guard with TH/SS feasible now?
- What are the rules for Wolf Priests now, can they still choose a unit type against they and the joined unit have PE, do they confer FNP 6+ like Ulrik does or is that his fixed Warlord trait as I presume?

can you still field fenris wolves as troops if you take chipmunk (canis) hero?

sturguard wrote:
Are you sure Terminators cant deep strike? Do they have a rule saying they can't as that is what prohibited them in the previous edition.

I cant find this rule so far. So a maybe but it was on an awkward spot in the old codex too so ... yeah seems they can.


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Super Newb wrote:
My advice is to slow down then. Why rush through and give sloppy crappy answers? That stresses you out and just results in people asking more follow-up questions.

Jeah, still the people asking questions lets me notice the differences in some entries so it helps me too understanding the differences. You are right though. Please ask more specific questions i wont list the cost for all special weapons or all options a unit can take. Too much stress

sturguard wrote:
Are you sure Terminators cant deep strike? Do they have a rule saying they can't as that is what prohibited them in the previous edition.

The printed page leak for Logan and his stormrider specifically says he cannot deep strike when using the stormrider. Which would imply that Logan can otherwise deep strike. Which would imply SW TDA could deep strike. Of course, GW isn't perfect so that could be a typo. However Drop Pods can take locator beacons when they couldn't in their last codex (Bjorn digital page entry leak). Which would lean me more towards thinking TDA can deep strike.

So that's two questionable comments by the alleged codex holder so far. Now, since we've all gotten burned at one time or another by a joker who claims to have had a codex, my suggestion still stands. Slow down codex holder and then make precise, clear comments about the codex. That way people won't be asking so many follow-up questions (and question this guys' legitimacy).


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 Mywik wrote:
Too much stress

Lol, remember, everyone thinks you are awesome for doing this. It's a favor you are doing for everyone else. Take your time. Every leak is a gift. Don't treat it as a stressful job that's no fun lol

OP, thanks for doing this!

If Arjac is an IC now, does he take up an Elites/HQ slot now?

 Malthor wrote:
Thank you for doing this, other questions that come to mind:

- did the point costs for TDA Wolf Guard gear decrease, for example are TDA Wolf guard with TH/SS feasible now?
- What are the rules for Wolf Priests now, can they still choose a unit type against they and the joined unit have PE, do they confer FNP 6+ like Ulrik does or is that his fixed Warlord trait as I presume?

1.) TH/SS combo is 15 Pts. 3 WG with a PL are 99pts base.
2)They can still get PE against a chosen unit type. Ulric has a 12" Stubborn bubble.
Wolf priests (ulric too) have a special issue wargear called "healing balms" which confer a 6+ FNP for them and their squad.

 Mywik wrote:

 Malthor wrote:
Thank you for doing this, other questions that come to mind:

- did the point costs for TDA Wolf Guard gear decrease, for example are TDA Wolf guard with TH/SS feasible now?
- What are the rules for Wolf Priests now, can they still choose a unit type against they and the joined unit have PE, do they confer FNP 6+ like Ulrik does or is that his fixed Warlord trait as I presume?

1.) TH/SS combo is 15 Pts. 3 WG with a PL are 99pts base.
2)They can still get PE against a chosen unit type. Ulric has a 12" Stubborn bubble.
Wolf priests (ulric too) have a special issue wargear called "healing balms" which confer a 6+ FNP for them and their squad.

I like the sound of that, thanks!

 Paradigm wrote:
OP, thanks for doing this!

If Arjac is an IC now, does he take up an Elites/HQ slot now?

Arjac is Elite.


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So im out for a while. Feel free to ask more questions i address them later.

For people thinking that i dont have the codex. Just leave the thread and wait for saturday if you dont believe me . Will try to answer more precise later to avoid misunderstandings.

I will try to keep this simple
1] Can Wolf Scouts take Heavy Weapons?

2] Has MotW Changed or just gone?

3] Are Land Speeders now in line with the other Marines

4] Flakk Missiles?

5] Swiftclaws, have seen nothing on them.

 Anpu42 wrote:
I will try to keep this simple
1] Can Wolf Scouts take Heavy Weapons?

2] Has MotW Changed or just gone?

3] Are Land Speeders now in line with the other Marines

4] Flakk Missiles?

5] Swiftclaws, have seen nothing on them.

1) Yes

2) Gone

2) Seems like. Dont have the C:SM here to compare. They are 50 base and a dual MM Speeder would be 80pts.

4) 10pts per ML

5)3 SW Biker = 60pts. Still WS and BS3. Swiftclaws/sky/blood have the Rage USR.

Thank you...Now I need to rework my Lone Wolves [CCW, MotW, Storm Shield]

So Swift/Sky claws both in FA slot?

How much does the venerable upgrade cost?
(In comparable terms, no absolute figure please.)

 wuestenfux wrote:
How much does the venerable upgrade cost?
(In comparable terms, no absolute figure please.)

Two dozen plus one somethings. Could be pesos, points, bananas, who knows. But the Spanish page leaks had that info.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
So Swift/Sky claws both in FA slot?

Yes. Both are in fast attack.

Super Newb wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
How much does the venerable upgrade cost?
(In comparable terms, no absolute figure please.)

Two dozen plus one somethings. Could be pesos, points, bananas, who knows. But the Spanish page leaks had that info.

Makes sense. Much cheaper than the venerable Dread in the GK codex, where the upgrade was five dozen.

Venerable is 25 pt upgrade from the normal dread of 95. To upgrade to the storm shield/axe I believe is 25 more so 145 for the axe/ss version, 120 for normal ven dread- both are overcosted in my opinion for what they do.

Can you confirm these were not added to C:SW
- hunter/stalker
- stormtalon
- thunderfire

I forgot two
1] Iron Priest has much has he changed

2] Wolf Standard/Banner How much has it changed.

Points cost of grimnar?
Points cost of Ragnar?
What are their special rules? Living legend, high king, d3 attacks on charge?
Do long fang packs still have 5 heavy weapons?
Are there dedicated terminator squads?
What is Arjacs stateline and special rules and wargear ?

Thanks

 Anpu42 wrote:
Thank you...Now I need to rework my Lone Wolves [CCW, MotW, Storm Shield]

I modeled my Lone wolf as a MotW TDA, while holding a imperial guard up in the air ripping him apart, I guess now hte imperial guard counts as a Thunderhammer and SS