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Farsight crisis suits with nothing on them.

Just 80 individual crisis suits.

I would prefer HQ crisis suits (with 2 fusion blasters) with maxed BS:5 drone units attached (including 2 markerlight drones each).
Anti-air is no problem (mass twin-linked S5), anti infantry is no problem, fusion blasters against armour in combination with deep strike.

This is for Tau at 1850. 41 individual piranhas, 14 have fusion blasters. That's 82 gun drones, 14 18" meltas, and 164 s5 ap5 shots.

This whole time, I thought 28 obliterators with 6 of them with MoN would be boss until I read this page. Holy crap was I wrong.

Not sure if this stands in the same rank as others but for unbound I'd like to try something like this.
6 Tau Buff Commanders (C&CN, MSSS, Iridium Armor, Stim Injectors) (2 of which have PEN chips for 2 Fusion Teams)
with
6 Groups of 3 Crisis Suits with Special Weapons?

153 flayed ones?

^ drop some flayed ones for an overlord with a royal court to get cheap res-orb lords and that'll be a very gribbly list.

13 slaanesh soul gringers at 1950. Its got aa covered and anti armour (13+ in cc) plus anti infantry in 39 auto cannon shots, or drop one and give 10 of them torrent flamers at 2k.

Alright so check this out farseer army?

For just under 2000pts

16xfarseers on jetbikes with singing spears, one has mantle of the laughing god

Give the farseers powers from runes of fate, telepathy and sanctic.
Each Farseer gets 4 powers for a total of 64 powers
58 base warp charges
Another thing to keep in mind is that they are all independent characters so you can split them into units however you want and change it up through the game for different strategies with buffs or to hit multiple targets or whatever

mobility:
- top notch eldar jetbikes or gate of infinity to deepstrike anywhere on the board

firepower:
- 12" range but has bs5! Also has choice between 1 str9 shot or 2 catapult shots for anti infantry. Also note that the all the to hit and the to wound rolls are re-rollable due to guide and doom.
- access to all kinds of destructive psychic powers like vortexes of doom for general destruction, eldritch storms to clear out parking lots, and also mind war, purge soul and psychic shreik combined with terrify for sniping specific models and melting heavily armored foes. (Could drop a farseer or two to add some warlocks in hope of getting horrify.)

durability:
- 6+ to hit the unit with invisibility cast on them
- 2+ cover save in the open (when jinking and joined to mantle seer or near a farseer casting shrouding)
- 3++ invulnerable (with sanctuary) and 4++ otherwise
- 3+ regular armor save, can be 2+ if some warlocks are mixed in there and get protect
- and all failed saves are re-rolled with fortune
- oh and don't even try casting psychic powers at this unit

Anti-air:
-not that great for anti-air, however can take down 1-2 flyers per turn pretty reliably if all of the singing spears are focussed on them. Also the unit should be able shrug off the firepower of most flyers out there.

Anti-tank:
jetbike mobility + singing spear up the butt with some eldritch storms and 3 armor bane attacks at str5 (with hammerhand) per model when charging.

Anti-infantry:
the unit would probably have trouble against horde armies unless they can use their psychic powers to modify leadership then force pinning/ runaway tests. That being said 32 TL shuriken catapult shots at bs 5 on a doomed unit is pretty disgusting and can probably take out nearly any unit

2000pt 13 vindicare assassins. Serious 72inch snipers options to kill anything in or out of cover ap2 stops invulnerable saves or anti tank. Add Anahi's with laz guns for some bs8 skyfire could hold its own

I guess AB + WK would do the trick then.

Other than that, I would automatically take Creed, and I believe there are other characters out there that can be worth it.

Flayed ones with destroyer lords with resurrection orbs, and maybe a few spyders. A wall of walking metal andblades that is going to really be impossible to keep down.


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Wait, no. Nurglings. Spend every single point on nurglings.


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At 2000 points that's 177 nurgling swarms for a whopping 528 wounds. rofl.


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And they can all infiltrate and deep strike as needed. So you can just start the game clogging the board up with them.

Munga wrote:
Flayed ones with destroyer lords with resurrection orbs, and maybe a few spyders. A wall of walking metal andblades that is going to really be impossible to keep down.


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Wait, no. Nurglings. Spend every single point on nurglings.


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At 2000 points that's 177 nurgling swarms for a whopping 528 wounds. rofl.


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And they can all infiltrate and deep strike as needed. So you can just start the game clogging the board up with them.

Spread em out so he can't place reserves within 1" of your guys

Mavnas wrote:
Coteaz + Bjorn + Immotekh = opponent has a 50% chance to force you to place first, because on re-rollable 2+, you will be seizing lol.

unless your orks.

 Orock wrote:

Mavnas wrote:
Coteaz + Bjorn + Immotekh = opponent has a 50% chance to force you to place first, because on re-rollable 2+, you will be seizing lol.

unless your orks.

Replace Immotekh with Vect. Lose the nightfighting lightning though....

I've always wanted to field something like this:

3x Wraithknight
3x Riptide (Ion Accelerator, EWO, Velocity Tracker, melta)
3x Dreadknight (Teleporter, Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon)

1995 points

3x

800 Conscripts.

 GoliothOnline wrote:
800 Conscripts.

You still need the infantry squad to get those.

 Desubot wrote:

 GoliothOnline wrote:
800 Conscripts.

You still need the infantry squad to get those.

Ok, 500 zombie cultists.

 GoliothOnline wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 GoliothOnline wrote:
800 Conscripts.

You still need the infantry squad to get those.

Ok, 500 zombie cultists.

Dont you need Typhis?

 Desubot wrote:

 GoliothOnline wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 GoliothOnline wrote:
800 Conscripts.

You still need the infantry squad to get those.

Ok, 500 zombie cultists.

Dont you need Typhis?

Ok ok! 220 Pink Horrors! This way they can summon more and require nothing special on their own to perform the tast of simply being annoying!


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Or better still just take 16 Heralds of Tzeentch with Discs and ML3. You'd have 48 Warp Charges to fart around with, and 16 Seperate squads to summon with means you can swarm the board with 8 summons per turn if using 6 dice per cast.

I'd run 57 Individual Jokaero. That is a lot of las cannons, MM, or flamers. And since it unbound no more than 1 to a unit. You'd have to kill 57 different units and survive half that in las cannon hits a round.

All Eldar hornets. Fast, mean against everything, particularly effective against flyers

Or all black knights. Maybe not top tier but they could hurt a lot of lists.

 zephoid wrote:
2 acolyte/1 jokearo units. At 2000 points thats 46 lascannons, heavy flamers, or multimeltas.

yes! YES!

 Mythra wrote:
I'd run 57 Individual Jokaero. That is a lot of las cannons, MM, or flamers. And since it unbound no more than 1 to a unit. You'd have to kill 57 different units and survive half that in las cannon hits a round.

Ya still need to form a proper unit.

Unbound doesnt let you break that still. like you cannot take 200 apothecaries without a command squad and such.

 Desubot wrote:

 Mythra wrote:
I'd run 57 Individual Jokaero. That is a lot of las cannons, MM, or flamers. And since it unbound no more than 1 to a unit. You'd have to kill 57 different units and survive half that in las cannon hits a round.

Ya still need to form a proper unit.

Unbound doesnt let you break that still. like you cannot take 200 apothecaries without a command squad and such.

Speaking of which, what's the opinion regarding dedicated transports? Can't take them without a unit to transport, is how I read it -- as according to the 7th rules, they don't even have a faction and derive their faction from the unit that they transport.

Apologies if this would derail the thread.

V

 Verthane wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 Mythra wrote:
I'd run 57 Individual Jokaero. That is a lot of las cannons, MM, or flamers. And since it unbound no more than 1 to a unit. You'd have to kill 57 different units and survive half that in las cannon hits a round.

Ya still need to form a proper unit.

Unbound doesnt let you break that still. like you cannot take 200 apothecaries without a command squad and such.

Speaking of which, what's the opinion regarding dedicated transports? Can't take them without a unit to transport, is how I read it -- as according to the 7th rules, they don't even have a faction and derive their faction from the unit that they transport.

Apologies if this would derail the thread.

V

It doesn't . as it is i dont think they can take them. though this is changing with the new books moving everything into FA slots.

Imotekh spam ?

 GoliothOnline wrote:
800 Conscripts.

Ally in Azrael and have him join the unit. 800 noobs with 4++? Yes please!

(and yes i know it won't work by the exact rules stated in this thread... but then again that's true for most posts in here!)

morgoth wrote:
Imotekh spam ?

Unique :(