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 Seaward wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What is wrong with you?

Am I really the only one who thinks that dude has one of the most annoying voices on the planet?

I'd rather have Fran Drescher sing me Sweet Caroline.

What? a single word in the luxuriously smooth tones of voice can make crops grow and impregnate virgins [and by that I mean male virgins].

His voice is okay. It's certainly better than Crowshaw's, but I still don't mind the latter's, either.

I have a general bias towards various types of British accents (and I stress British rather than English because I love Scottish accents as well).

Obviously we need a spin off; Gaming Idol, where all the best game commentators engage in a battle of the voices to decide who is best

 LordofHats wrote:
Obviously we need a spin off; Gaming Idol, where all the best game commentators engage in a battle of the voices to decide who is best

That's easy.

Everybody loses, most of all the audience.

 Seaward wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
Obviously we need a spin off; Gaming Idol, where all the best game commentators engage in a battle of the voices to decide who is best

That's easy.

Everybody loses, most of all the audience.

Now now. All we need is our own Simon Cowell. We'll just cut off the rest of the season with the contest (which I never watched anyway) and focus solely on Gaming Cowell telling people how terrible they are

 LordofHats wrote:
Obviously we need a spin off; Gaming Idol, where all the best game commentators engage in a battle of the voices to decide who is best

Well Matt Lee's'd probably win that.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
Obviously we need a spin off; Gaming Idol, where all the best game commentators engage in a battle of the voices to decide who is best

Well Matt Lee's'd probably win that.

My vote goes to Yahtzee.

Honourable mention to Jim.

 Soladrin wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
Obviously we need a spin off; Gaming Idol, where all the best game commentators engage in a battle of the voices to decide who is best

Well Matt Lee's'd probably win that.

My vote goes to Yahtzee.

Honourable mention to Jim.

Yourvoicesoundslikearse, yourfacelookslikearse, andI'vetiredofhearingyourdrivelpourintomyears.


I vote Yahtzee as well.

Also, pooper prize for Crendor for lamest voice. ( in the best way )

Best laugh goes to Jesse Cox.

Anyway, back on topic. I really wonder how long this current hate train will be going..

 Soladrin wrote:
Also, pooper prize for Crendor for lamest voice. ( in the best way )

Best laugh goes to Jesse Cox.

Anyway, back on topic. I really wonder how long this current hate train will be going..

Is Jesse Jackson still kicking around?

There's your answer.

 Seaward wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
Also, pooper prize for Crendor for lamest voice. ( in the best way )

Best laugh goes to Jesse Cox.

Anyway, back on topic. I really wonder how long this current hate train will be going..

Is Jesse Jackson still kicking around?

There's your answer.

Who?

 Soladrin wrote:
Who?

One of the race relations equivalents to Sarkeesian.

People who make their bones off of generating controversy and raising money from a polarized audience usually have impressive staying power.

Honestly i'd just like to move on from all the bull crap. Remember when gaming was about the games. Now it's become as ridiculous as other forms of media and politics. Who's f*cking who, who's wrong here and who should be witch-hunted. Just shut up and tell me what games are coming in the future. I won't even ask for an honest review so much as just tell me what games are coming. To think my biggest issue used to be about how credible a game review was.

Can we keep it to one thread, ffs?

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Honestly i'd just like to move on from all the bull crap. Remember when gaming was about the games. Now it's become as ridiculous as other forms of media and politics. Who's f*cking who, who's wrong here and who should be witch-hunted. Just shut up and tell me what games are coming in the future. I won't even ask for an honest review so much as just tell me what games are coming. To think my biggest issue used to be about how credible a game review was.

That'd be nice, wouldn't it?

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Honestly i'd just like to move on from all the bull crap. Remember when gaming was about the games. Now it's become as ridiculous as other forms of media and politics. Who's f*cking who, who's wrong here and who should be witch-hunted. Just shut up and tell me what games are coming in the future. I won't even ask for an honest review so much as just tell me what games are coming. To think my biggest issue used to be about how credible a game review was.

Some people look for attention whereever they can and since video games became mainstream, tons of people now look into it as another way of getting a few minutes of e-fame.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Honestly i'd just like to move on from all the bull crap. Remember when gaming was about the games. Now it's become as ridiculous as other forms of media and politics. Who's f*cking who, who's wrong here and who should be witch-hunted. Just shut up and tell me what games are coming in the future. I won't even ask for an honest review so much as just tell me what games are coming. To think my biggest issue used to be about how credible a game review was.

Some people look for attention whereever they can and since video games became mainstream, tons of people now look into it as another way of getting a few minutes of e-fame.

Why I never!

"goes back to streaming"

Well I know total biscuit is saying I should listen to everybody but like he says when a group attacks or is just angry in general I just shut them out. Hearing angry people makes me angry and it's just tiring to hear in general.

I mean this news is just as stupid as other media reporting the same types of things and I never cared about any of those people either. The only thing all this has done is made me want to stay away from any part of it.

I wasn't paying attention to it either but I feel like the event was more about possible cheating or breaking up of people and then bam suddenly 'social justice warriors' and 'men's rights activists' got into the mix out of nowhere just to add crap to it. Keep in mind I'm not following it but I hardly see why a game called 'depression quest' and a bunch of possible cheaters in relationships turns into another gender battle. It just feels entirely un-related and added just to get more views.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Well I know total biscuit is saying I should listen to everybody but like he says when a group attacks or is just angry in general I just shut them out. Hearing angry people makes me angry and it's just tiring to hear in general.

I mean this news is just as stupid as other media reporting the same types of things and I never cared about any of those people either. The only thing all this has done is made me want to stay away from any part of it.

I wasn't paying attention to it either but I feel like the event was more about possible cheating or breaking up of people and then bam suddenly 'social justice warriors' and 'men's rights activists' got into the mix out of nowhere just to add crap to it. Keep in mind I'm not following it but I hardly see why a game called 'depression quest' and a bunch of possible cheaters in relationships turns into another gender battle. It just feels entirely un-related and added just to get more views.

What originally lit this current flame train isn't the fact that she cheated or whatever, it's that we got proof, again, of game "jurnalism" having no work ethics.

Even though that evidence has not borne out to be true, it doesn't matter, the fire was lit.

 Melissia wrote:
Even though that evidence has not borne out to be true, it doesn't matter, the fire was lit.

Oh yeah, I have no idea of whatever the hell is true or not about what started it and I don't particularly care about one potentially frivolous game designer. Hell, even if it all was true, I'd just think worse of her as a person for cheating, that's it, if she did it for better grades add a little bit of extra on that. I would always lay the blame at the feet of the journalists though, you don't sleep with people who can gain outside benefits from your bias.

That said, I've never had respect for "mainstream game journalism" since the whole journalism part can be replaced with Hype generators. This is also the reason I have a lot more respect for the critics to be found on youtube (like TB) who employ a lot more transparency in their work. Even if they have bias, they make it very clear(in general) from the start they if already have a liking or disliking of said game before going into details. They simply have less to gain from hyping games which means they have no need to pander to the viewers.

 Melissia wrote:
Even though that evidence has not borne out to be true, it doesn't matter, the fire was lit.

What? A) I linked this post from another user to try and quell the hate. B) in response to several other Dakkanauts like myself, plenty of evidence has been presented to counter her arguments. Refusal to accept it does not mean evidence does not exist.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Even though that evidence has not borne out to be true, it doesn't matter, the fire was lit.

What? A) I linked this post from another user to try and quell the hate. B) in response to several other Dakkanauts like myself, plenty of evidence has been presented to counter her arguments. Refusal to accept it does not mean evidence does not exist.

In the end, who the hell cares? One tiny indie dev has done something bad, big fething deal. Whether or not she did the things claimed isn't of any importance, the discussions that have grown from it are the thing of import. Focus is simply in the wrong spot.

 Soladrin wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Even though that evidence has not borne out to be true, it doesn't matter, the fire was lit.

What? A) I linked this post from another user to try and quell the hate. B) in response to several other Dakkanauts like myself, plenty of evidence has been presented to counter her arguments. Refusal to accept it does not mean evidence does not exist.

In the end, who the hell cares? One tiny indie dev has done something bad, big fething deal. Whether or not she did the things claimed isn't of any importance, the discussions that have grown from it are the thing of import. Focus is simply in the wrong spot.

To be clear, are you referring to Anita or Zoe? If Anita, she is hardly some indie dev.

 jreilly89 wrote:
What? A) I linked this post from another user to try and quell the hate.

Given the content of this thread, it hasn't worked. Also, nothing I posted was hateful, so I'm curious as to what you mean by that.

 jreilly89 wrote:
B) in response to several other Dakkanauts like myself, plenty of evidence has been presented to counter her arguments.

Zoe Quinn's "argument", from a perusal on her blog, is "this is none of your business, leave me alone, and for feth's sake stop posting pictures of my breasts everywhere already". Regardless of if she actually did so or not (I've seen no evidence outside the words of an angry ex, which I always take with a more salt than a McDonald's Fry Factory's annual consumption), given that there has been no evidence posted about her having any gains from supposedly sleeping around... I still fail to see any "evidence" of her being necessarily wrong.

"This is none of your business" is a fairly convincing argument when it comes to people gossiping about another person's bad break-up.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Even though that evidence has not borne out to be true, it doesn't matter, the fire was lit.

What? A) I linked this post from another user to try and quell the hate. B) in response to several other Dakkanauts like myself, plenty of evidence has been presented to counter her arguments. Refusal to accept it does not mean evidence does not exist.

In the end, who the hell cares? One tiny indie dev has done something bad, big fething deal. Whether or not she did the things claimed isn't of any importance, the discussions that have grown from it are the thing of import. Focus is simply in the wrong spot.

To be clear, are you referring to Anita or Zoe? If Anita, she is hardly some indie dev.

Which one of the two ladies in this argument is an indie dev?

 Melissia wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
What? A) I linked this post from another user to try and quell the hate.

Given the content of this thread, it hasn't worked. Also, nothing I posted was hateful, so I'm curious as to what you mean by that.

 jreilly89 wrote:
B) in response to several other Dakkanauts like myself, plenty of evidence has been presented to counter her arguments.

Zoe Quinn's "argument", from a perusal on her blog, is "this is none of your business, leave me alone, and for feth's sake stop posting pictures of my breasts everywhere already". Regardless of if she actually did so or not (I've seen no evidence outside the words of an angry ex, which I always take with a more salt than a McDonald's Fry Factory's annual consumption), given that there has been no evidence posted about her having any gains from supposedly sleeping around... I still fail to see any "evidence" of her being necessarily wrong.

"This is none of your business" is a fairly convincing argument when it comes to people gossiping about another person's bad break-up.

Hold on, I believe we are arguing two separate people. I'm referring to Anita, I could give a gak less what Zoe did. That's her personal business

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
What? A) I linked this post from another user to try and quell the hate.

Given the content of this thread, it hasn't worked. Also, nothing I posted was hateful, so I'm curious as to what you mean by that.

 jreilly89 wrote:
B) in response to several other Dakkanauts like myself, plenty of evidence has been presented to counter her arguments.

Zoe Quinn's "argument", from a perusal on her blog, is "this is none of your business, leave me alone, and for feth's sake stop posting pictures of my breasts everywhere already". Regardless of if she actually did so or not (I've seen no evidence outside the words of an angry ex, which I always take with a more salt than a McDonald's Fry Factory's annual consumption), given that there has been no evidence posted about her having any gains from supposedly sleeping around... I still fail to see any "evidence" of her being necessarily wrong.

"This is none of your business" is a fairly convincing argument when it comes to people gossiping about another person's bad break-up.

Hold on, I believe we are arguing two separate people. I'm referring to Anita, I could give a gak less what Zoe did. That's her personal business

I was arguing Zoe which apparently wasn't clear enough.

Anyway, same really goes for Anita from my viewpoint. Oh no, she's got in on activision or some other big company as a consultant? Big fething deal, first off, if they listen to her, good for them, we will probably see better treatment of female characters then. Worst case scenario? Big company takes a loss. Bohoo, some of them deserve it. Triple A gaming is a cesspool to begin with and if she can make an impact on it, be it positive or negative, I'm fine with either.

My original post referred to this:

 Soladrin wrote:
What originally lit this current flame train isn't the fact that she cheated or whatever, it's that we got proof, again, of game "jurnalism" having no work ethics.

Which was a discussion on Zoe Quinn.