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I mean, they have pike troops, crossbows, cannons, longbows, mounted knights, knights on foot with two handed weapons for greatswords,

Yeah, you pretty much only need specialist troops like Griffin Knights and specialist units like the steamtank, altars and other things, as well as a few unique hero types like witchhunters and wizards. But the bulk majority of the army can be made using Perry's stuff.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Yeah, you pretty much only need specialist troops like Griffin Knights and specialist units like the steamtank, altars and other things, as well as a few unique hero types like witchhunters and wizards. But the bulk majority of the army can be made using Perry's stuff.

Precisely!!

Are these new models? I assumed they were just the new-ish MAA sprues mixed in with the previous bowmen in a new box?

Looking at the pics I would guess these are a development of the previous WoTR men-at-arms boxset.

But there are definitely some new sculpts; the bascinet and dome-style helmets are 100-Year War period rather than WoTR, some of the banding on the shoulders and cuirass also looks different, again I would guess historically accurate although I'm not knowledgeable enough about it to say how much so.

The archers are also different to the ones in the WoTR combined billmen/archer set.

 Azazelx wrote:
Are these new models? I assumed they were just the new-ish MAA sprues mixed in with the previous bowmen in a new box?

I can't place the source right now, but I read that these are new sprues.

Yeah, new sprues. A different Perry twin sculpted these.

Oh bloody hell. So I have to buy these as well now?

I will echo that I wish they'd separated the two troop types into their own boxes, though.

Well you can excuse yourself if you're a historical gamer by saying "nah, I don't have a thing for this time period."

If you're using it for Fantasy, though, I think these look better as representations of peasant archers. I'm fine with having extra men-at-arms since I need them anyway, although to get the number I need I'll be needing two.

Guess I'll have a bunch of longbowmen.

What I mean is that from my perspective, if they were in two distinct boxes of 36-40 models, I'd get 2 of the archers and 3 of the MAA. As it is, buying three boxes would get me all of the archers I'd ever want, but only 1/3 of the MAA.

(and as far as buying by the sprues goes - the Perry's international shipping rates are ...not friendly)

 Azazelx wrote:
What I mean is that from my perspective, if they were in two distinct boxes of 36-40 models, I'd get 2 of the archers and 3 of the MAA. As it is, buying three boxes would get me all of the archers I'd ever want, but only 1/3 of the MAA.

(and as far as buying by the sprues goes - the Perry's international shipping rates are ...not friendly)

Take note that the Perry's don't charge VAT for international customers, so you get them RRP (after shipping costs) if you order directly from them

 heartserenade wrote:
Yeah, new sprues. A different Perry twin sculpted these.

Having received one of these boxsets in an Xmas stocking I can confirm this.

Completely new sprues and new sculpts. The longbowmen/yeomen in particular are a markedly different style, with long quilted leather jerkins rather than the liveried clothing of the WoTR box. The plate armour of the men at arms is more bulky and less refined than the later WoTR-style, with 4 of the 5 options featuring bascinet-type helms (these come as separate little pieces you attach to the front of the helm, giving you the option of open or closed helms).

Overall these look as good as the WoTR set in terms of quality. Am putting some together at the moment so will post some photos of the sprues and comparisons with the WoTR set.

Azazelx - the archers and men at mrms are on different sprues, so I should imagine there is the possibility they will release them as sprue only (if you wanted one or the other) at some point in the future.

Please post pics! I'm currently assembling a WOTR bows and bills box right now and would like to see how they look beside these new models and if they're kitbashable together.

Stunning, as we've come to expect from the Perry's. These actually mix surprisingly well with GW minis. A guy I game with has an Empire army and all his core troops are Perry and Fireforge plastics with GW making up just the exotic fantasy stuff like the Alter and Griffon's.

With a solid paint scheme you wouldn't think you where looking at different manufacturers.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
What I mean is that from my perspective, if they were in two distinct boxes of 36-40 models, I'd get 2 of the archers and 3 of the MAA. As it is, buying three boxes would get me all of the archers I'd ever want, but only 1/3 of the MAA.

(and as far as buying by the sprues goes - the Perry's international shipping rates are ...not friendly)

Take note that the Perry's don't charge VAT for international customers, so you get them RRP (after shipping costs) if you order directly from them

It works out easier for me to buy Perry stuff from Warlord Games, simply because of the free shipping for £50 or more. I'd buy more Perry stuff from Firestorm, but they're not good with either stock or range on the Perry stuff.

Some pics from the new Agincourt-Orleans set.

First, the box. Artwork of similar style to the rest of the Perry range, very nice and lets you imagine your Men at Arms charging in to the fray as you are assembling them.
Apologies for some of the mould-lines in the shots




The sprues. A total of 36 minis in the box, you get 12 'Household' or retinue Men-at-Arms. You get a variety of Bascinet helms with visors (which can be attached), and the two-handed weapons appropriate for the period. Some accessories also such as scabbards/swords and laurels, the connection point is the same as the 'Foot Knights' set so you should be able to mix and match with that kit.




A total of 24 longbowmen, with 6 body variations. You can arm them with bows or also hammers (to be driving stakes into the ground) and an axe as if cutting wood for these. Important to note that the heads for the longbowmen do not have the same joint as the WoTR archers in that set - these use a flat connection, the WoTR heads have a ball/socket arrangement. Think this is probably due to the different styles (these wearing cowls, rather than the helmets in the later era) although converting them would probably be straightforward.




The arms between sets are cross-compatible, clothing style notwithstanding. Scale and proportion match perfectly.
In order, from left to right: WOTR set, Agincourt-to-Orleans body/head with WoTR arms & weapon, WOTR, AtO, WOTR


WoTR-set men at arms (left) compared with Agincourt-to-Orleans. Reading around this recently, if you're a history nut you'll really appreciate the work that has gone into the armour with both respects to chronology and geography of the armour; with the smoother and rounded shape of Italian armour, and fluted/spiked edges and more ostentatious German-produced armour - both are represented, and you can mix and match as often happened in their actual usage.



One thing I really love about Perry sets is the little pamphlets they include, this one features info on the Men-at-Arms and Longbowmen. There is also a sheet of heraldry and flags for the period





The kit also comes with renendra bases of various sizes. Overall, an excellent set - the sculpting detail is as good as the WoTR and Foot Knights sets, and once again very good value for money at roughly 50p per miniature. Only criticism I could possibly make is the lack of a 'Richard III'-type commander in the set (Henry V or one of his lords for instance!) as was in the recent 'Foot Knights' boxset, although that is easily remedied with the Perrys' metal range.

Any questions about the kit, please let me know!

Neat! I think I won't be mixing this with my WotR sets after all: they look good as they are!

Awesome, I missed this at Xmas but my birthday is around the corner.....nice to see these in the flesh (plastic).

Kit looks great. I was disappointed too by the lack of a proper 'command sprue' but it will be easily remedied.

Thanks for the review and pics. Looks like Perry hit another one out of the park!

I appreciate the review, Pacific. I'll be picking up some of these very soon.