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Feth it, you're not worth it.

Ronaldo made my annual pay in 2014 in 28 minutes...

This world really does not have its priorities straight.

Of course, the key is that people would need to stop paying...about a £100+ each to attend a 90 minute game that has these top players in the general proximity of a stadium in which your currently located.

As long as people keep on paying those prices, buying those branded shirts, they're still going to keep on being paid that much.

I was about to say, attending 2 of these football games would be the equivalent of buying a new 40k army, until I realised how much a 40k army costs nowadays.

Instead I'll go with. Watching a game and a half of football, or this:




This is why I'm quite happy being a geek. :p

Ooh, that's a good one. I love heavily terrained boards.

 Ratius wrote:
Would yee all take the money for 5-10 years of fame?

Body / lifestyle abuse included?

Lmao.... It's bloody soccer mate. What abuse does their body really go through?? Excluding goaltenders, the only real abuse they take is the amount of water they drink, the amount of hairspray/gel they use and how hard the ground they dive on is.

I could see if you were talking real football, like rugby (6 Nations going on now!!! WooHooo).

Ronaldo wrecked my gak in 11 minutes. It'd take me 914 years. And it seems I'm a bit above my country's average.

feth, do I feel poor compared to you guys that lasted 27 minutes

I'm pretty sure there's something wonky about the math there. One year divided by 914 amounts to way more than 11 minutes.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I will never understand how people can get paid so much for doing feth-all.

They attract people to the sport. People spend money on watching the sport. Some of that money gets recycled into contracts for more players to play the sport so they can attract even more people to watch. If you're looking at someone to blame, blame the people who will buy a seat at the Super Bowl for $6,500. If people didn't willingly throw absurd amounts of money watching sports, athletes and coaches would get paid just like anyone else. Comparatively, you might do a perfectly good job at wherever you work, but you're probably not the reason thousands of people show up and pay thousands of dollars each while an entire nation takes the day off just to watch you play a game.

 DarkLink wrote:

They attract people to the sport. People spend money on watching the sport. Some of that money gets recycled into contracts for more players to play the sport so they can attract even more people to watch. If you're looking at someone to blame, blame the people who will buy a seat at the Super Bowl for $6,500. If people didn't willingly throw absurd amounts of money watching sports, athletes and coaches would get paid just like anyone else. Comparatively, you might do a perfectly good job at wherever you work, but you're probably not the reason thousands of people show up and pay thousands of dollars each while an entire nation takes the day off just to watch you play a game.

There are also those who hold to the theory that free agency and players' unions have contributed greatly to this... Take for example Major League baseball. In the 1950s, the "average" player made 7 times the "average" national salary for workers. By the end of the 1970s, that had risen to 15 times the average salary, the 80s it was up to 20 times average, and now I believe it is somewhere near 30 times the average national salary.

Basically, what happened in the 60s, for baseball, was a player was going to be traded, saying "no, I won't play for them. My contract is up, I should be free to go where I want to go, not where you say I can go" (at the time, there was a one year post-contract "hold" on a player, where even though a player wasn't being payed to play for his given team, that team still got the final say in where he ended up, if it wasn't with the team he was originally with). The US courts sided with the player, and he was able to "shop" his talent around, and get the best price for his services. This drove up player prices, which caused owners and back office types to raise ticket prices so that they still got their "cut" which caused more players to demand more money, and the cycle went on and on.

 DarkLink wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
I will never understand how people can get paid so much for doing feth-all.

They attract people to the sport. People spend money on watching the sport. Some of that money gets recycled into contracts for more players to play the sport so they can attract even more people to watch. If you're looking at someone to blame, blame the people who will buy a seat at the Super Bowl for $6,500. If people didn't willingly throw absurd amounts of money watching sports, athletes and coaches would get paid just like anyone else. Comparatively, you might do a perfectly good job at wherever you work, but you're probably not the reason thousands of people show up and pay thousands of dollars each while an entire nation takes the day off just to watch you play a game.

Well, it doesn't help that this is a pretty good example of my view of sports.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 DarkLink wrote:

They attract people to the sport. People spend money on watching the sport. Some of that money gets recycled into contracts for more players to play the sport so they can attract even more people to watch. If you're looking at someone to blame, blame the people who will buy a seat at the Super Bowl for $6,500. If people didn't willingly throw absurd amounts of money watching sports, athletes and coaches would get paid just like anyone else. Comparatively, you might do a perfectly good job at wherever you work, but you're probably not the reason thousands of people show up and pay thousands of dollars each while an entire nation takes the day off just to watch you play a game.

There are also those who hold to the theory that free agency and players' unions have contributed greatly to this... Take for example Major League baseball. In the 1950s, the "average" player made 7 times the "average" national salary for workers. By the end of the 1970s, that had risen to 15 times the average salary, the 80s it was up to 20 times average, and now I believe it is somewhere near 30 times the average national salary.

Basically, what happened in the 60s, for baseball, was a player was going to be traded, saying "no, I won't play for them. My contract is up, I should be free to go where I want to go, not where you say I can go" (at the time, there was a one year post-contract "hold" on a player, where even though a player wasn't being payed to play for his given team, that team still got the final say in where he ended up, if it wasn't with the team he was originally with). The US courts sided with the player, and he was able to "shop" his talent around, and get the best price for his services. This drove up player prices, which caused owners and back office types to raise ticket prices so that they still got their "cut" which caused more players to demand more money, and the cycle went on and on.

While collective bargaining has certainly helped players negotiating for more money both collectively and individually it's not the reason salaries have risen so much over the past few decades. The player salary increases directly correlate to the rise in television revenue the sports receive. The most major professional league to renew its rights deal was the NBA last fall and its package got a price of $2.66 BILLION. If the league sells its broadcast rights for $2.66 billion and roughly half that money is earmarked for player salariesand you still have the same amount of teams and players then you're going to see an astronomical rise in player salaries. In an era where there is more competition for people's attention than ever and it's easier than ever to watch the programs you want on demand the value of live real time programs like sporting events that consistently deliver high ratings are going to continue to get vast sums of money from broadcast companies (both tv and digital). The players are the ones that cause millions of people to collectively spend billions of dollars to watch games/matches so they're worth every cent they earn. Most of them are actually underpaid when you factor the amount of money the teams/owners make versus the players who are often limited by salary caps.

 Chongara wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
What DOES offend me, is when people who risk their lives for a living e.g. soldiers get paid a pittance.

They get paid according to their market value. It just so happens that there isn't a lot of money in being a soldier, therefore they're worth almost nothing. Capitalism 101. Whinging about it is just being delusional .

Nyet. Is time for glorious World Revolution.

Not working now but I checked what I will be getting when I start my career.

16 minutes against ronaldo, good stuff.

Prestor Jon wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 DarkLink wrote:

They attract people to the sport. People spend money on watching the sport. Some of that money gets recycled into contracts for more players to play the sport so they can attract even more people to watch. If you're looking at someone to blame, blame the people who will buy a seat at the Super Bowl for $6,500. If people didn't willingly throw absurd amounts of money watching sports, athletes and coaches would get paid just like anyone else. Comparatively, you might do a perfectly good job at wherever you work, but you're probably not the reason thousands of people show up and pay thousands of dollars each while an entire nation takes the day off just to watch you play a game.

There are also those who hold to the theory that free agency and players' unions have contributed greatly to this... Take for example Major League baseball. In the 1950s, the "average" player made 7 times the "average" national salary for workers. By the end of the 1970s, that had risen to 15 times the average salary, the 80s it was up to 20 times average, and now I believe it is somewhere near 30 times the average national salary.

Basically, what happened in the 60s, for baseball, was a player was going to be traded, saying "no, I won't play for them. My contract is up, I should be free to go where I want to go, not where you say I can go" (at the time, there was a one year post-contract "hold" on a player, where even though a player wasn't being payed to play for his given team, that team still got the final say in where he ended up, if it wasn't with the team he was originally with). The US courts sided with the player, and he was able to "shop" his talent around, and get the best price for his services. This drove up player prices, which caused owners and back office types to raise ticket prices so that they still got their "cut" which caused more players to demand more money, and the cycle went on and on.

While collective bargaining has certainly helped players negotiating for more money both collectively and individually it's not the reason salaries have risen so much over the past few decades. The player salary increases directly correlate to the rise in television revenue the sports receive. The most major professional league to renew its rights deal was the NBA last fall and its package got a price of $2.66 BILLION. If the league sells its broadcast rights for $2.66 billion and roughly half that money is earmarked for player salariesand you still have the same amount of teams and players then you're going to see an astronomical rise in player salaries. In an era where there is more competition for people's attention than ever and it's easier than ever to watch the programs you want on demand the value of live real time programs like sporting events that consistently deliver high ratings are going to continue to get vast sums of money from broadcast companies (both tv and digital). The players are the ones that cause millions of people to collectively spend billions of dollars to watch games/matches so they're worth every cent they earn. Most of them are actually underpaid when you factor the amount of money the teams/owners make versus the players who are often limited by salary caps.

What I was referring to was actually pre-collective bargaining. I forget the player now, but he was a black man, playing for the St. Louis Cardinals, who's contract ran out. Again, at the time, there was a 1 year "buffer" period where the original team still basically owned the rights to the player. And the Cardinals were trying to trade a man, who was not under contract to another team that he didn't want to play for. His lawyer, as it turns out happens to have been the same man who became the first president of the MLBPA when it formed shortly after this.

So basically, it sort of in a nut shell went: Im worth more money... OK, we'll pay you that. Crap, now we need our cut, so we need to raise ticket prices, concession prices a tiny bit to cover that cost. Ohh, hey, Bob, our Ace pitcher is asking for more money now... Well, how can we cover that we already raised prices once this year? Ohh, let's get more advertisers in the stadium walls, and get more games on TV. and round and round, etc.

As your example goes on, I agree with you... Success brings more money, which brings "better" players, which brings more success. And more success brings more fans (how often do we call them bandwagonners?) But, IMO, it all started with Curt Flood, and MLBs "Reserve Clause"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Flood

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
They get paid according to their market value. It just so happens that there's a lot of money in professional football, therefore they're worth quite a lot. Capitalism 101. Whinging about it is just jealousy. And for the record I earn just £200 a week. And I don't watch football.

What DOES offend me, is when people who risk their lives for a living e.g. soldiers get paid a pittance.

There is always PMC work.