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2015/03/11 18:56:00
Subject: It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
What if the old world is destroyed, but this mysterious figure, Sigmar Ascended likely, has managed to create a new world out of the shattered remains of the old. Every faction's survivors find themselves dropped on a new world. Here and there, pockets of the old world have been plopped down.
Every faction survives in one form or another. All scattered in different locations across the world. Cities of humans and Dwarf holds in many different places, but being unaware anyone else survived as they rebuild in this new world. Athel Loren and chunks of Ulthuan and Naggaroth have survived as well. Cathey may also make an appearance. The lizard floating temples reappear in the skies and set down in unfamiliar jungles.
Chaos is much diminished, although daemonic incursions still occur occasionally and the favor of the gods still is bestowed on mortal followers.
As the years pass, new tales and heroes arise to stand aside the legends of heroes of old. The new world is explored, maybe some new races are discovered, occasionally explorers find ruins of the old world and pockets of other survivors.
See, this I would like. I'm not expecting something like this, but it's filled with potential for expansion and storytelling! That would be fun.
Hyper venomous Sea Snakes are too OP!
You know who really will be the most OP? Spitting cobras. They got the only ranged weapons in Snakehammer!
2015/03/11 18:57:50
Subject: Re:It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
Oh good, I just get into the game to find out that it ends, haha.
LOL Ouch!
Spoiler:
Could the guy falling through space be the Elf that went through the portal the elf girl created in Book 3? didnt she state that he was the only chance to recreate the cycle of the old world again?
Sorry my WHFB fluff history is weak.
I'm spitballing here that "the man"(an Elf would have been referred to as "the mortal") who essentially stopped the destruction is Sigmar Ascendant(we've seen what the power of faith does in the Warhammer universe after all), and Araloth(who is supposed to play the role of Asuryan, the Creator hence why Lileath saved him) will somehow "rebuild" the world from the wreckage that Sigmar saved.
2015/03/11 19:10:52
Subject: It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
Well. I'm done. I've been part of this game since I was a young boy. Been into warhammer as a concept since I was 6 and sat with my brother and his friends as they ran their WFRP campaigns. But, now, it's time to call it quits. I'm shelving all my warhammer as I don't want to be part of the community that supports any of the End Times releases.
Warhammer FB ending or entire armies getting completely squatted are just rumours and based on nothing. I don't think the radical stuff people are clamoring about is going to happen even by a longshot. Dwarves completely removed? Give me a break, not gonna happen. Just your usual rumour mill.
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Eh I'm just going to wait for it to get retconned in a couple of months with Grimgor kicking the Chaos Gods in the back of the head then deciding to not kill them for some reason.
My win rate while having my arms and legs tied behind by back while blindfolded and stuffed in a safe that is submerged underwater:
100%
2015/03/11 19:49:17
Subject: It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
Awesome. Fluff reboot. Out with the old, in with the new.
Note that there is NOTHING on that page that need affect the game itself. Considering how much they've farmed out their IP of late (Warhammer Tactics, Bloodbowl 2, Warhammer: Total War, Vermintide) there is no chance that they're scrapping the IP altogether. Just rebooting it to give them some more leeway to create novel and interesting IP that isn't the generic tolkien ripoff that the old world comes across as to newcomers.
2015/03/11 20:37:32
Subject: It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
RunicFIN wrote:Warhammer FB ending or entire armies getting completely squatted are just rumours and based on nothing. I don't think the radical stuff people are clamoring about is going to happen even by a longshot. Dwarves completely removed? Give me a break, not gonna happen. Just your usual rumour mill.
Why? Because it's something you don't like? Because you can't imagine GW doing something that could possibly alienate it's customers? That could possibly alienate you? I imagine GW alienating Dakka's arch-apologist could be difficult; but some of us have already been through that process, and don't find it as incomprehensible. Dumping capricious, disruptive changes and dumping on existing fans is what GWdoes. This 'un, backed up by a couple of the most reliable rumour sources, just might be a wee bit bigger than the others.
Sigvatr wrote:Really? That is the worst writing I have seen in a LONG time. What the heck?
"He stared into the void and the void looked back."
Was this written by an angsty teenager?
Vermis wrote:Cribbing Nietzsche doesn't improve it.
SilverDevilfish wrote:Eh I'm just going to wait for it to get retconned in a couple of months with Grimgor kicking the Chaos Gods in the back of the head then deciding to not kill them for some reason.
Best reason I've heard why GWwon't make the changes, so far.
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Vermis wrote: Why? Because it's something you don't like? Because you can't imagine GW doing something that could possibly alienate it's customers? That could possibly alienate you? I imagine GW alienating Dakka's arch-apologist could be difficult; but some of us have already been through that process, and don't find it as incomprehensible. Dumping capricious, disruptive changes and dumping on existing fans is what GWdoes. This 'un, backed up by a couple of the most reliable rumour sources, just might be a wee bit bigger than the others.
I guess apologist and realist are synonyms to you. Most of my views are based on how things are in reality. If that seems like apologist action to you, it means your view on reality is skewed, as you perceive reality as something else. You could be one of those who thinks GW doesn't actually do any market research whatsoever ( in essence on a concretical level meaning that their whole organization, made of people, is completely oblivious to competitors and their products while majority of their designers are wargamers themselves, making the whole idea ridiculous at best ) just because one person has written so in a document which is, infact, basically a propaganda letter for investors in the world of business.
As an example, for you it might seem apologetic for someone to not blindly believe said meaningless propaganda letter directed at investors, written by one person for the sole purpose of enforcing the investors belief in the companys supposed overwhelming success. To anyone with common sense, it's just that and nothing more: just an official statement written in order to achieve the trust of said investors, not even remotely meaning that in reality the company chooses to be oblivious about it's competition. That, is reality. Read more chairmans preambles from companies across the world if you doubt the nature of said document. Read atleast 50 ( which is easily how many I have read over the years ) and you -will- realize what I said is true unless you are in denial, inwhich case discussing the matter with you is moot to beginwith.
In any case, we shall see, won't we. If they completely remove armies from the game you were right. I'll see you in 8 months when dwarves are still around, ready with some humble pie, I'm fairly certain. Not 100%, I'd say 98%.
Has nothing to do with what I like, it's just too ridicilous a thing for a publicly traded company to do to one of their main product lines at this scale ( and with this I mean exactly that, Squats were squatted back when GW was but a fraction of what it is now in size. ) Next to that, I can easily imagine GW doing things that alienate their customers, but I can't imagine armies/races like dwarves being removed, as in deleted.
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Having seen the rules leaked for Archaon, it's clear that GW don't know jack about running a game.
Removing ALL restrictions on points and duplications so that an army of pure steam tanks is legal.
Or 2400 points of Dark Elf peg heroes.
Or a 2400 point army of BoTWD Dragon Princes with characters.
Let's not forget the multiple BSBs. So now we can get the Rampager's Standard, BoTWD, Ranger Standard and Wailing Banner into a unit of Dragon Princes.
So Unbound has come to Fantasy. I'm sure it's reception will mirror it's grimdark cousin.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
2015/03/11 21:11:05
Subject: Re:It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
RunicFIN wrote: I guess apologist and realist are synonyms to you. Most of my views are based on how things are in reality. If that seems like apologist action to you, it means your view on reality is skewed, as you perceive reality as something else.
Seven months ago, the "realists" were saying all the End Times stuff was a load of ridiculous gak made up by a spanish blogger who just wanted some attention.
Because why would GW ever do such a thing.
Progress is like a herd of pigs: everybody is interested in the produced benefits, but nobody wants to deal with all the resulting gak.
GW customers deserve every bit of outrageous princing they get.
2015/03/12 02:01:29
Subject: It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
Kind of shocked..Everything we know gone. All those characters from all of BL novels are dead..And likely we'll never know just how they met their fate.
2015/03/12 02:57:25
Subject: Re:It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.
ToxicBox wrote: Kind of shocked..Everything we know gone. All those characters from all of BL novels are dead..And likely we'll never know just how they met their fate.
THAT'S what gets me. 30 years of work and building and layers and.... At least with 40k they're just ignoring everything in favour of 30k. Oh how I loathe the era of reboots. Welp at least I haven't spent any money on this game in over a decade. I'd be VERY pissed, then. Back to Dark Future and converting Hot Wheels I go!
2015/03/12 03:39:07
Subject: It is Finished. The Winners of the Great Game.