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 Ashiraya wrote:
Space Marines with stealth tech.

They've come close, but with proper Nanosuit-esque cloaking they would be hilariously effective (especially since said suit silences your footsteps...)

Tau have a stealth suits (and eldars have Striking Scorpions) They have also jetpacks and drones which are appealing to me. But something in Tau is uninteresting and I do not choice them. They have not necessary spirit like Necrons or Space Marines.

A toaster that pops out the second slice only after you have finished buttering the first.

Self cleaning dishes.

Hover dune buggies

A device that makes opening cans of drink easier when the ringpull doesn't work right. You know, when you pull it but the metal doesn't push in right and your stuck with a partially opened can where the liquid only dribbles out.

taurising wrote:


Anyway, OT, I would like to see one, just ONE Space Marine flyer that is aerodynamic enough to stay in the air. That bugs me so much.

The Space Wolf one was a particular offender I didn't care much for. I get the whole WWII landing on Omaha Beach-feel, but it just looks dumb.

I would to see something like this. (VTOL from Marvel movies)

 Ashiraya wrote:
No, snare mines are triggered by snares, hence their name. They blow up all the same.

All they do is prevent ordered charges. They can't kill anything. At all. They're snares, not land mines.

I'd like the IoM to catch up with the Terran military of M3.

-Proper guided artillery.
-Night vision goggles for it's troopers.
-Reactive Tank armor.
-Remote operated drones.
-Guided missiles.
-Fire and forget AT missile launchers for it's infantry.

Wait... the Tau have most of these. Where is that sign up sheet for the Greater Good again?

Draco wrote:I would to see something like this. (VTOL from Marvel movies)

Spoiler:

So basically, A Valkyrie that was designed by someone who's attended a couple of classes on Aeronautical Engineering?

 Draco wrote:
I would to see something like this. (VTOL from Marvel movies)

Spoiler:

You mean this?

More Ork tek of any type. Tellyportas are fine, but I'd like to see Orky energy weapons be something useful.

Other than the amazing Shokk Attack Gun, the absurd Zzap Gun or the meh Kustom Megablasta, the new Mek Guns only begin to scratch the surface of Orky randomness.

My two teef..

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Imperial fliers can have night-vision gear in-game, quite aside from the many fluff mentions of Imperial night-vision gear :p

Necrons also have night-vision gear in the Nebuloscope, although why they don't fit it to anything except Tomb Blades is anyone's guess. Probably because they rarely fight at ranges that would require it. Necrons also have target designators, in the Triarch Stalker, and squad-level robots, in the form of Wraiths, Acanthrites, Spyders and Scarabs, as well as larger-scale robots such as the Tomb Stalker and Tomb Sentinel, and robot artillery in the Pylons (both Sentry and giant variants). So... nyeeeh :p

Space Marines used to have land mines. The Whirlwind could lay them down for some reason, but they were there. Guard also have access to Snare Mines, which are a kind of land mine. Also nyeeeh. :p

"Used to" being the operative word. I'm guessing the Forge World that made the cluster mines was eaten by tyranids and not a single person in the million worlds of the Imperium has figured out how to build yet another device the USA is capable of making en masse.

that or they where removed from game simply as part of the stream lineing process of the game.

I honestly find it hilarious that the Astartes aren't all toting around combat shotguns in place of their bolters, as it's child play to modify bolts so that they may be fired from a shotgun. Since the ones doing these modifications are usually gangers, I have no doubt a Astartes version of the same thing would be far less quick and dirty.

Even if there weren't any mines left (highly unlikely), the IG are often quite inventive. And trip mines are easy. Rope tied to the detonator or pin of explosives or grenades. Actually, I think one story had them doing that to CSMs with meltabombs....


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 RaptorusRex wrote:
I honestly find it hilarious that the Astartes aren't all toting around combat shotguns in place of their bolters, as it's child play to modify bolts so that they may be fired from a shotgun. Since the ones doing these modifications are usually gangers, I have no doubt a Astartes version of the same thing would be far less quick and dirty.

Just imagines something that fired a dozen tiny bolts.....

 Psienesis wrote:



You mean this?

Spoiler:

That is one of best looking flyers in 40K. Other my favourite is Night Scythe.

The Fire raptor is Ok, but it is FW and costly. I like a new FW flyer Xiphon too http://battlebunnies.blogspot.fi/2015/02/xiphon-interceptor.html

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I'd like the IoM to catch up with the Terran military of M3.

-Proper guided artillery. You mean the ones we have today? That's AI = Heresy
-Night vision goggles for it's troopers. For average Joe and Bob? Nah, their guns are more worth than them. Elysians and special snowflakes people still do get those toys.
-Reactive Tank armor.Versus meltaguns, lascanons, bright lances, dark miniature black holes lances? How would that actually help?
-Remote operated drones. Which would involve extensive AI = Heresy
-Guided missiles. They have that. A servo skull guiding a missile. Look at the SM Hunter
-Fire and forget AT missile launchers for it's infantry. Hunter killer missiles? The IG barely trust a bloke with a standard equipment, why would they bother with sophisticated missiles, when it's much easier to just give them a throw-and-forget demo charge?

Wait... the Tau have most of these. Where is that sign up sheet for the Greater Good again? At your nearest executione- erh! Commissar!

Uh, Zewrath? We don't currently have the level of AI technology that would trigger a visitation from an AdMech purge team. So modern guided artillery? Not AI. Remote drones? certainly not AI, hence the 'remote' part. They're controlled by a guy with one of these;

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Uh, Zewrath? We don't currently have the level of AI technology that would trigger a visitation from an AdMech purge team. So modern guided artillery? Not AI. Remote drones? certainly not AI, hence the 'remote' part. They're controlled by a guy with one of these;

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M982_Excalibur

Massive amounts of AI involved and if you think something remote controlled simply just cancels out any AI involvement, you got some research to do there buddy.


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Take the F-22 Raptor for instance. It's got multiple gyroscopes and onboard computers that constantly regulates the wing flaps because the plane is designed to be aerodynamicly unstable. If you turned off the airplane for even a second, it would immediately spiral out of control. Al this happens, even though there's a pilot "controlling" the airplane.

 Draco wrote:
I like a new FW flyer Xiphon too http://battlebunnies.blogspot.fi/2015/02/xiphon-interceptor.html

Spoiler:

Adama called, he wants his Viper back.

What I'd really want? More utilization of non-warp/webway FTL. Yes, it exists, but very extremely restricted amounts. Even the Necron Inertialess Drive was retconned.

The tau's canon way of normal space travel is via gravity manipulation, so they might be able to do something.

 Zewrath wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Uh, Zewrath? We don't currently have the level of AI technology that would trigger a visitation from an AdMech purge team. So modern guided artillery? Not AI. Remote drones? certainly not AI, hence the 'remote' part. They're controlled by a guy with one of these;

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M982_Excalibur

Massive amounts of AI involved and if you think something remote controlled simply just cancels out any AI involvement, you got some research to do there buddy.


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Take the F-22 Raptor for instance. It's got multiple gyroscopes and onboard computers that constantly regulates the wing flaps because the plane is designed to be aerodynamicly unstable. If you turned off the airplane for even a second, it would immediately spiral out of control. Al this happens, even though there's a pilot "controlling" the airplane.

Machine Spirits sometimes manifest themselves as rudimentary AI programs such as in Land Raiders. A remote operated drone would be will within the boundaries the Imperium has set for it's tech.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 Zewrath wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Uh, Zewrath? We don't currently have the level of AI technology that would trigger a visitation from an AdMech purge team. So modern guided artillery? Not AI. Remote drones? certainly not AI, hence the 'remote' part. They're controlled by a guy with one of these;

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M982_Excalibur

Massive amounts of AI involved and if you think something remote controlled simply just cancels out any AI involvement, you got some research to do there buddy.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Take the F-22 Raptor for instance. It's got multiple gyroscopes and onboard computers that constantly regulates the wing flaps because the plane is designed to be aerodynamicly unstable. If you turned off the airplane for even a second, it would immediately spiral out of control. Al this happens, even though there's a pilot "controlling" the airplane.

Machine Spirits sometimes manifest themselves as rudimentary AI programs such as in Land Raiders. A remote operated drone would be will within the boundaries the Imperium has set for it's tech.

Not entirely correct but yes, the imperium would accept it... Especially since they already exist:
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Cyclops

I want to know how the collar of Khorne works and if it is just MAAAAGIC that would be kinda sad... Khorne using magic to counter magic...

 dragoonmaster101 wrote:
I want to know how the collar of Khorne works and if it is just MAAAAGIC that would be kinda sad... Khorne using magic to counter magic...

Khorne uses magic to craft greater weapons. His beef is with magic user, who uses magic to kill people thus not spilling proper blood.

 dragoonmaster101 wrote:
I want to know how the collar of Khorne works and if it is just MAAAAGIC that would be kinda sad... Khorne using magic to counter magic...

It's magic countering magic, yes. No technology involved, it's just an iron band around your neck with the rune of Khorne prominently displayed. Khorne's hatred of sorcery and such acts as a repellant/countering effect... Khorne, being a Chaos God, gets to break rules of causality and physics.

 Draco wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:



You mean this?

Spoiler:

That is one of best looking flyers in 40K. Other my favourite is Night Scythe.

The Fire raptor is Ok, but it is FW and costly. I like a new FW flyer Xiphon too http://battlebunnies.blogspot.fi/2015/02/xiphon-interceptor.html

Spoiler:

There's "that's a pretty flier' like Jennifer Lawrence is pretty... and there's "that's a pretty flier" like Marilyn Monroe is pretty...

.. then there's this flier.



It's"that 5 foot flat blonde just beat the gak out of a guy who weighs twice as much as she does" pretty, and that's the best pretty.

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
No, snare mines are triggered by snares, hence their name. They blow up all the same.

All they do is prevent ordered charges. They can't kill anything. At all. They're snares, not land mines.

It used to be that all frag grenades did was make everyone strike at the same time in combat under specific circumstances - they never killed anyone.

Suffice it to say that "They don't kill anyone rules wise, so they're clearly non-lethal" doesn't hold much weight.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
The tau's canon way of normal space travel is via gravity manipulation, so they might be able to do something.

But that's sub-light. Also, I'd say pretty much all sub-light engines are based around gravity manipulation.

But gravity manipulation is a possible start to non warp FTL.


And I'm pretty sure imperial ships use thrusters.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
But gravity manipulation is a possible start to non warp FTL.


And I'm pretty sure imperial ships use thrusters.

Thrusters coupled with gravitic manipulation. I said based around.

BrianDavion wrote:

 RaptorusRex wrote:
In all honesty, I'm actually surprised that the Imperial Knights don't have a Dropship in the vein of Battletech. It'd be perfect for planetary incursions and delivery of the walkers themselves to strategic positions.

they actually do from the sounds of it. the IK novel IIRC mentioned some sort of transport ship. it just doesn't get mentioned. cause 40k doesn't pay too much attention to orbital to surface delivery that isn't thunderhawks or droppods. kinda like how 90% of all the dropships described in battletech are mech carriers despite the fact that a conservitive estimate places 5 times as many tanks and 7 times as many infantry on the battlefields

Over on the Tau forums (advanced tau tactica) they had a lengthy discussion about how a Riptide is transported to the battlefield. Like long range. They decided that it either was self sufficient and got there on it's own, special Mantas brought them in laying down or something, annnnd Orca drop ship in either the same folded up or underslung like a Thunderhawk does with Dredds.


I think they decided on the Manta dropping one off from orbit and it just made it's way down, sort of like a paratrooper. Or if it was already on planet it would be picked up or just make it's way there dependin on the distance.





That said, I would like them to create a "everyone quit your crying about everything in the game and just" relax button and the a "Nobody likes a cry baby button" but meh, oh well some people are just sour sallies.

Xiphon got rules too http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/X/Xiphon_40K.pdf