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 Grey Templar wrote:
 Furyou Miko wrote:
'cept that the OotF isn't into booms at all, all he does is manage reserves.


Ahh right. Mixed up names.


From a tabletop 40k standpoint, yes. GW seems to have been inclined to leave the provenance of orbital bombardments to Sphess Marines and Inquisition, though this does make some sense given that a full broadside from a battleship is enough firepower to level cities, and you're either relying on lance strikes or precision strikes (bombardment cannons, basically exclusive to SM ships). Again, like I mentioned earlier, in a number of the 40k novels and in the lore, the OotF is both a ground coordinator/controller for Naval aviation and a forward observer for Naval orbital bombardments.

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 Enigwolf wrote:
 Silverthorne wrote:
The OotF is almost certainly an aviator and a junior officer (O-1 to O-3. Aside from the trip in the only interaction guard meat bags have with the fleet is via tactical aviation. In BFG terms he'd be an ordnance pilot, in 40k parlance a thunderbolt, marauder, lighting, etc pilot. I say that because his in game effect is interdicting reserves, which is primarily a tacair job, so it's extremely likely that he is a tacair guy so that he can speak the language to the guys he's calling in.y


I partially agree with this, only in terms of that if it's in the sense of using Naval aviation elements as we see in the 40k rules. However, we also have seen in lore and in books that Fleet officers attached to the HQ elements of Guard companies and regiments are also the ones who call down orbital bombardments, which we don't see in tabletop because we have the Master of Ordnance for that, which brings me to my next point...

 Silverthorne wrote:
So he's almost definitely a junior officer, and was probably grounded for some reason, flight violation, health issue, fooling around with too navy female crew, whatever. Or it could be that since the campaigns last years it's just a dude who got shot down and now is tagging along with the infantry company that rescued him. I think that's the coolest approach, personally


Uhm, no. JTACs and FOs are very specialized fields that requires the ability to think as a ground-pounder and as a support element, and very high marks on theory (being able to correct for wind, etc.) as well as attention to detail.


VERY specialized? lol, an entire FAC rotation for a Marine aviator is 11 months including both PCS moves and all the required schools (with about half a day of theory, combined) AND the deployment. And it's not really a dream slate option.... since you're out of the cockpit. Aviators already are a support element so I don't know what you mean there, and correction for wind is not done by the FAC but by the releasing aircraft. Are you a driver or a JTAC? The hardest part of a FAC tour is leaving the nurturing confines of the wing and dealing with all the motard infantry BS, the actual call for fires is a breeze. If you can operate the fancy contraption that delivers the bombs for an entire fleet tour without killing the wrong people, taking in CAS 1-3 is not going to strain your abilities.

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Phoenix wrote:Well I don't think the battle company would do much to bolster the ranks of my eldar army so no.

Nonsense. The Battle Company box is perfect for filling out your ranks of aspect warriors with a large contingent from the Screaming Baldies shrine.

 
   
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 KesaAnna wrote:
I'm wondering what the likely rank(s) would be for an Officer of the Fleet in an Imperial Guard Company Command ?

My speculation is that it wouldn't be Captains through Admirals, because it's too low ball.

But at the same time, any old junior officer sounds unlikely too Because -

- The Officer of the Fleet would be the in-your-face face of the Imperial Navy in the Imperial Guard. Immersed in , and living cheek-by-jowl with the Guard, but not a part of it. So , for that reason alone, some considerable status would be preferable?

- For the same reason, while his job may be coordinating two bureaucracies and relaying orders, it is two different bureaucracies, and relaying orders can APPEAR like GIVING orders. So if he is not of sufficient status, Captains through Admirals might tend to get their feathers ruffled.

So my speculation is that the likely rank is Flag Lieutenant through Commander ?

with, possibly, it being used as a kind of sinecure for pensioners still in good health, but you don't , for whatever reason , want to put them in direct charge of things So, maybe, in that case , a few old Captains and Commodores ?

What do you think / know ?

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Since I'm already here, and the subject is the Imperial Navy ----

The few images I have seen of the Imperial Navy symbol are pretty crude and simple. The thingie in the middle looks like a automobile steering wheel . Maybe it's a stylized representation of a sun, a planet, a solar system ?
Anyone know what it is supposed to be ? Maybe there are some better images of it around ?



Easier question. Is 'Navy Officier' an 'officier liason' of Imperial Navy?



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 Silverthorne wrote:
 Enigwolf wrote:
 Silverthorne wrote:
The OotF is almost certainly an aviator and a junior officer (O-1 to O-3. Aside from the trip in the only interaction guard meat bags have with the fleet is via tactical aviation. In BFG terms he'd be an ordnance pilot, in 40k parlance a thunderbolt, marauder, lighting, etc pilot. I say that because his in game effect is interdicting reserves, which is primarily a tacair job, so it's extremely likely that he is a tacair guy so that he can speak the language to the guys he's calling in.y


I partially agree with this, only in terms of that if it's in the sense of using Naval aviation elements as we see in the 40k rules. However, we also have seen in lore and in books that Fleet officers attached to the HQ elements of Guard companies and regiments are also the ones who call down orbital bombardments, which we don't see in tabletop because we have the Master of Ordnance for that, which brings me to my next point...

 Silverthorne wrote:
So he's almost definitely a junior officer, and was probably grounded for some reason, flight violation, health issue, fooling around with too navy female crew, whatever. Or it could be that since the campaigns last years it's just a dude who got shot down and now is tagging along with the infantry company that rescued him. I think that's the coolest approach, personally


Uhm, no. JTACs and FOs are very specialized fields that requires the ability to think as a ground-pounder and as a support element, and very high marks on theory (being able to correct for wind, etc.) as well as attention to detail.


VERY specialized? lol, an entire FAC rotation for a Marine aviator is 11 months including both PCS moves and all the required schools (with about half a day of theory, combined) AND the deployment. And it's not really a dream slate option.... since you're out of the cockpit. Aviators already are a support element so I don't know what you mean there, and correction for wind is not done by the FAC but by the releasing aircraft. Are you a driver or a JTAC? The hardest part of a FAC tour is leaving the nurturing confines of the wing and dealing with all the motard infantry BS, the actual call for fires is a breeze. If you can operate the fancy contraption that delivers the bombs for an entire fleet tour without killing the wrong people, taking in CAS 1-3 is not going to strain your abilities.


It depends on your service and your armed forces. In a number of Commonwealth militaries JTACs are infantry officers of NATO rank OF-1 or OF-2 attached at either company or battalion-level who spend considerable amounts of time on training attrachment to the Air Force to qualify, because pilots are too valuable. Not all USMC JTACs/FACs are aviators either, as far as I know. I was also referring to the position as a similar role to artilerry FOs (hence my reference to correction for wind and drift).

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The only possible non-aviator Marines FACs I can think of (O side) are ANGELICO. They have some navy dudes in there too it's kind of a weird unit. I've never called for a shot from a low orbiting space ship, but I imagine it might actually be easier than tube artillery since there isn't intervening terrain really

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Phoenix wrote:Well I don't think the battle company would do much to bolster the ranks of my eldar army so no.

Nonsense. The Battle Company box is perfect for filling out your ranks of aspect warriors with a large contingent from the Screaming Baldies shrine.

 
   
 
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