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Seer Council with fortune.

 Arkaine wrote:
Belakor.

My Titan is invisible. Have fun.

Culexus and it's fine man.

I'd probably go to Wraithknight, or Wave Serpent. Maybe Revenant, Scout Titan or Transcedent C'Tan (Gargant version).

Royal Court in 5/6E, with 2+/3++/4+++ mss, warscythes.

 ionusx wrote:

 Gunnvulcan wrote:
Warlord titan is insane. It can take on like 5x its points with relative ease.

yeah but it can be tanked by a ta'unra and potentially killed by one too. a 1250 point model shouldnt be slayed by a 400 point model

Try 2,750 mate! 2900 with upgrades!

 Arkaine wrote:
Belakor.

My Titan is invisible. Have fun.

Farseer
100 points invisible Revenant.

Oh, Oh! I got one! I got one!

Wait for it!

*drum roll*

...

...

BLOB GUARD! Yaaaay!

There's nothing that can take down 50-100 humies! >:C

In competitive 40k, from 5th to 7th, it's likely the WD Screamer/Flamer update. While a lot of other very powerful units have been mentioned (nob bikers, wraithknight, etc), all of those units had weakness or competition that could deal with them effectively, and a lot of those perceived power units didn't actually win a lot of events.

The WD Screamer/Flamers, though, in their very brief life, basically showed up completely out of nowhere, allowed weak/mediocre players who simply happened to show up with the right army to completely wreck basically any other army run by extremely skilled players and win events. Luckily, the update only lasted for a few months and then disappeared into obscurity. While there's been plenty of other overpowered or imbalanced things in competitive 40k, I can't think of any that had such a drastic effect in such a short time as that Daemon update.

squats. So powerful they had to be removed from the game.

Tyranids; So powerful they ate the Squats.

2nd ed hormagaunts.

Back in Rogue Trader the Time Stop power let you skip one of your opponent's phases every time you cast it.

Imagine Tyranids without a movement phase, or Tau without a shooting phase.

They didn't exist back then, but you get the idea.

raverrn wrote:
Back in Rogue Trader the Time Stop power let you skip one of your opponent's phases every time you cast it.

Imagine Tyranids without a movement phase, or Tau without a shooting phase.

They didn't exist back then, but you get the idea.

Eldar minus one phase would actually be balanced...

yeah but it can be tanked by a ta'unra and potentially killed by one too. a 1250 point model shouldnt be slayed by a 400 point model

Really not going to happen. The Tau'Nar's combined guns will struggle to take down the void shields, and even with its barrier shield it'd be doing well to live through two turns of fire from a warlord's eight destroyer shots.


The most overpowered unit? Hmm.... Usually it's 'cant be shot' syndrome. Harlequins in 2nd edition were a lot like that -buy them blind grenades and they amble up the board without anyone being allowed to draw line of sight to them.

It's much the same rage-induction as invisibility is today, but it was garuanteed for 3 points per model.

In 3rd edition, very much the daemon princes. Ignore armour and invulnerable saves, and due to beast and infiltrate would charge first turn. Holofield falcons were annoying too.

In 1st edition - definitely the D-Cannon.

Not quite as OP as all that but a few years ago a fellow Guard layer brought the following to a Kill Team tournament:

An Imperial Guard platoon with a Mortar section, snipers, all kinds of stuff. He won by having more things than anyone else could feasibly shoot.

That's because most Kill Teams are 5-10 doodz.

Aye, I know. My own was a 10 man vet section in a Chimera. Facing him was funny though, you deployed your few bods and he brought in 40+ infantry

There was a chaos prince /psyker combo, back before the fantasy style of psychic - just a Ld check to cast. Prince does lash or some such - moves your unit right to the table edge. Then casts another power forcing a ld check at minus ridiculous. Could force pretty much anything to run off the table without so much a shot fired. And if he couldn't make you run he'd charge you with like 10 attacks t8 s9 ignore saves init lots. Every time i fought one of those things I always lost. And usually people would bring 2 to max out the craziness.

Ah, good times...

Pulsa Rockets in 2nd edition.

Everything in up to a 12" radius lost it's entire turn.

No matter how awesome something else has ever been, it's not awesome at all if it can't do anything.

My second choice didn't save odley (silly phone)

For current or really recent id say the old Necron overlord with phase shifter, mind shackles and a few other toys. Hits at high str, ap2, high toughness, good WS, invun save, rp, plus a good chance the things he's fighting just hit themselves instead? And you could have a whole unit of these guys? Crazy!

Everytime i used this they never lost a fight. Making your big scary hit himself and not the overlord is just dirty. Add in that then the overlord can still smack him a bunch with a str 7 ap 2 pounding - that kills most anything. Tooled up with cryptteks and that unit is unstoppable / and I wager would OWN a wraith knight every time.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Pulsa Rockets in 2nd edition.

Everything in up to a 12" radius lost it's entire turn.

No matter how awesome something else has ever been, it's not awesome at all if it can't do anything.

I saw hormagaunt heavy lists overcome pulsa rokkits, though.

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
The leaked upcoming revenant titan. Same cost, can only be hit on 6's in melee (5+ for other superheavy level units) gains d6 hammer of wrath hits when it charges with the jump pack (it gets to roll 4d6") it gets to run after shooting all of its weapons (12" I might add) and its missile launcher is now skyfire, interceptor, strength 8 ap3 reroll armor pen.

Still only 900 points. It. Is. Absurd.

Why GW WHY!!!!!!




*cries in corner*

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
The leaked upcoming revenant titan. Same cost, can only be hit on 6's in melee (5+ for other superheavy level units) gains d6 hammer of wrath hits when it charges with the jump pack (it gets to roll 4d6") it gets to run after shooting all of its weapons (12" I might add) and its missile launcher is now skyfire, interceptor, strength 8 ap3 reroll armor pen.

Still only 900 points. It. Is. Absurd.

Why GW WHY!!!!!!




*cries in corner*

Just houserule that it costs 1800 pts. Fething GW. "Hey look, an OP unit! Lets make it more OP". "Hey look, an UP unit, lets make it more UP!".

Lukas the trickster, used to kill anything in base contact when he died, goodbye to that warlord

From my experience.

I would say wraithknight takes both most overpowered and undercosted

Though I've heard imperator battle titans are even more powerful than warlord ones and can put out 26 destroyer shots a turn and hit anything beyond 36 inches.

 Ustis wrote:
From my experience.

I would say wraithknight takes both most overpowered and undercosted

Though I've heard imperator battle titans are even more powerful than warlord ones and can put out 26 destroyer shots a turn and hit anything beyond 36 inches.

There somthing like 5000+ points though, more with all those guns, its basicly a walking army. :-)

Very safely apoc only, for now anyway!

+2 for virus grenades.
+1 for vortex grenades.
Give them to a guard sergeant then laugh as they die along with your opponents whole battle line!

A 2nd ed Bloodthirster was pretty bad ass. The guard sergeant would fail his terror test and run away before he could throw his fancy grenade (except the Bloodthirster took time to summon).

Wolf Guard Terminators with all assault cannons and cyclone missile launchers are the most famous though. Some people still have nightmares about it.

Selym wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:
The leaked upcoming revenant titan. Same cost, can only be hit on 6's in melee (5+ for other superheavy level units) gains d6 hammer of wrath hits when it charges with the jump pack (it gets to roll 4d6") it gets to run after shooting all of its weapons (12" I might add) and its missile launcher is now skyfire, interceptor, strength 8 ap3 reroll armor pen.

Still only 900 points. It. Is. Absurd.

Why GW WHY!!!!!!




*cries in corner*

Just houserule that it costs 1800 pts. Fething GW. "Hey look, an OP unit! Lets make it more OP". "Hey look, an UP unit, lets make it more UP!".

But for 2500 you can have this beauty:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IE/Eldar-Phantom-Titan-Body

Its rules are in IA Apocalypse 2nd. This thing laughs at the Revenant (and pretty much anything in the game).

ionusx wrote:

 Gunnvulcan wrote:
Warlord titan is insane. It can take on like 5x its points with relative ease.

yeah but it can be tanked by a ta'unra and potentially killed by one too. a 1250 point model shouldnt be slayed by a 400 point model

Ta'unar is 600p. And it' can't compete with Warlord or Reaver.

I presume you mean the Phantom, because you linked the Revenant.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I presume you mean the Phantom, because you linked the Revenant.

Ugh yes, you're right. Let me correct that.