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Sinful Hero wrote: I still can't tell if Big G has battle damage, or if the red streaks are some sort of corruption in his skin.
It looks too regular to be damage.
Big G get some ink?
It might be there to simulate the radioactivity Godzilla is said to emit in some past films. They may have just decided to pursue that angle with the reboot visuals.
It might be there to simulate the radioactivity Godzilla is said to emit in some past films. They may have just decided to pursue that angle with the reboot visuals.
Or it could be there to mark him as a clone, mirror universe duplicate, demon possessed, or any of a dozen other, more exotic things.
Then again, he might be on drugs, hyper charged, poisoned, diseased, super radioactive, nega-charged, or something else!
Ok, I can get passed the really long tail, but the arms could use some improvements, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I'll gladly watch it if they don't change his look, but I'd just like to have his arms be slightly... usable?
Also, I think he's red for radiation marks, and it also makes him seem more sinister. Of course, it could be for any reason, like you pointed out Nevelon, but radiation makes the most sense to me.
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2BlackJack1 wrote: Ok, I can get passed the really long tail, but the arms could use some improvements, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I'll gladly watch it if they don't change his look, but I'd just like to have his arms be slightly... usable?
Also, I think he's red for radiation marks, and it also makes him seem more sinister. Of course, it could be for any reason, like you pointed out Nevelon, but radiation makes the most sense to me.
The arms could be a retread of the Godzillasaurus/"Godzilla is a mutated dinosaur" shtick.
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Yeah, this Godzilla doesn't look good to me eyes too beady, T-rex arms and tail way too long, the 2014 one look better and the other Toho ones as well.
I ... uh ... I am honestly shocked by how much I liked that trailer! I was prepared to hate this movie - and yes some of the human drama aspects look cheesy in the wrong way - but it feels right overall. It really feels like the '54 film, without forgetting or hiding from the series's wider legacy. I am actually really excited now.
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Nevelon wrote: Human drama is a key part of the movies. Godzilla is a force of nature, like a disaster movie. Seeing a tidal wave wipe New York off the map, or watching California fall into the sea are a big part of the genre, but the meat of those films is seeing how people cope. Same with monster movies; even the original Godzilla.
Agreed.
And Cranston deserved to be put down after that performance.
Nevelon wrote: Human drama is a key part of the movies. Godzilla is a force of nature, like a disaster movie. Seeing a tidal wave wipe New York off the map, or watching California fall into the sea are a big part of the genre, but the meat of those films is seeing how people cope. Same with monster movies; even the original Godzilla.
Agreed.
And Cranston deserved to be put down after that performance.
Really? I must be miss-remembering. Of course, I enjoy just about anything he's done.
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I liked the recent movie (and like Final Wars). I'm interested in this one, but after that trailer think it may be a Blu-Ray movie instead of paying to see it in the Imax like I did the last one.
A couple of days ago BOC's 'Godzilla' played on the radio while I was driving, made me realize it was probably time for a new Godzilla flick.
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Cranston did great in the 2014 film. One of the chief sins of that movie was him dying so early in, leaving us to experience the balance of the story through his boring GI Joe of a son.
Human drama is indeed a basic element of G-films but, going back to the '54, the crucial factor is showing how the human drama is a microcosm of larger themes, which are writ large in Godzilla himself as he rampages. In the original, Godzilla is not just a force of nature battering Japan - it is the angry and suffering soul of Japan, atomically broken by unconditional surrender. Dr Serizawa was also a stand-in for Japan, a dark but romanticized figure. The film is not just some kind of romp but a eulogy and even a kind of transformative propitiatory sacrifice - morphing Japan's war guilt and shame in surrender into a national wisdom of pacificism. The reason why the series has survived 60 years is because the power of these connections comes through, even in the trashy American recut, and even through so many less serious - or in the case of the 2014 Legendary film, faux-serious - subsequent pictures.
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And, much like everyone else, I don't like the Roland Emmerich version, at all. It was an OK 'monster movie', but not a Godzilla one!
I loved the 98(?) version of godzilla. its so fun to watch and I love the design of the monster. Slick, fast, cool.
Of course you did...
hotsauceman1 wrote: Why are they doing the rubber suit still?
I mean, I support practical effects, but he looks silly.
Cmon japan. godzilla doesnt look terryfying.
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hotsauceman1 wrote: Why are they doing the rubber suit still?
I mean, I support practical effects, but he looks silly.
Cmon japan. godzilla doesnt look terryfying.
The practical effects give him a sense of presence that CGI hasn't yet mastered. A suit stomping on miniature houses looks much more "real", because you actually have something stepping on houses.
I my opinion, he looks fairly scary with the snaggle teeth, skeletal hands, and red wounds all over. But to call it silly seems hypocritical- it's a giant radioactive lizard stomping through cities. The basic concept itself is a bit unrealistic.
Nomeny wrote: The Godzilla in this movie looks like a radioactive zombie version of Godzilla. Possibly intentional?
Yes, I think it's entirely intentional that this Godzilla is supposed to look deformed and disturbing. Godzilla wasn't exactly a heroic character in the original. It'll be interesting to see how this has ended up.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Why are they doing the rubber suit still?
I mean, I support practical effects, but he looks silly.
Cmon japan. godzilla doesnt look terryfying.
The practical effects give him a sense of presence that CGI hasn't yet mastered. A suit stomping on miniature houses looks much more "real", because you actually have something stepping on houses.
I my opinion, he looks fairly scary with the snaggle teeth, skeletal hands, and red wounds all over. But to call it silly seems hypocritical- it's a giant radioactive lizard stomping through cities. The basic concept itself is a bit unrealistic.
I have to disagree. Im not saying use CGI, im saying use more.....practical practical effects. like maybe puppets touched up by cgi?
the pure suit doesnt make me think he is a monster, but an obvious guy in a suit.
I do like the teeth, the body shape, the face, everything but all the weird glowing wounds. The human drama, at least for me, was never the important part of Godzilla movies. I always enjoy them for the spectacle, for the visuals.
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Rosebuddy wrote: Godzilla wasn't exactly a heroic character in the original.
Ehhhhhh ...
Godzilla first appears as an ominous mystery - then he is a terrifying disaster - but by the end, when Serizawa unleashes the Oxygen Destroyer, the audience feels empathy, sorrow, and regret. The reason is - Godzilla is a character with whom we can identify. Godzilla is indeed a "him" and not an "it." Godzilla is not an impersonal force. The reason a slick, fast "Godzilla" does not work is because the identifiable part of the character is so beautifully expressed by the actor's struggle to work the costume. The way Godzilla moves, you can feel how heavy he is and how hard it is for him to even move around. In the original, Godzilla is pretty constantly in pain. Everywhere he goes, everything is in his way. He's crashing through high tension wires, he wading through buildings, he's getting shot by tanks and planes - all this stuff hurts. It's somewhere between debilitating pain and mere irritation. In other words, it feels like life - yes, even everyday life. How many times have you just wanted to roar and lash out? Godzilla's rampages are vicariously cathartic.
Ouze wrote: The human drama, at least for me, was never the important part of Godzilla movies.
Have you seen the original cut of the first movie? As for the others, yes it is harder to care about the humans ...
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Rosebuddy wrote: Godzilla wasn't exactly a heroic character in the original.
Ehhhhhh ...
Godzilla first appears as an ominous mystery - then he is a terrifying disaster - but by the end, when Serizawa unleashes the Oxygen Destroyer, the audience feels empathy, sorrow, and regret. The reason is - Godzilla is a character is that we can identify. Godzilla is indeed a "him" and not an "it." Godzilla is not an impersonal force. The reason a slick, fast "Godzilla" does not work is because the identifiable part of the character is so beautifully expressed by the actor's struggle to work the costume. The way Godzilla moves, you can feel how heavy he is and how hard it is for him to even move around. In the original, Godzilla is pretty constantly in pain. Everywhere he goes, everything is in his way. He's crashing through high tension wires, he wading through buildings, he's getting shot by tanks and planes - all this stuff hurts. It's somewhere between debilitating pain and mere irritation. In other words, it feels like life - yes, even everyday life. How many times have you just wanted to roar and lash out? Godzilla's rampages are vicariously cathartic.
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Well put indeed, and a very interesting viewpoint...I love it!
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