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 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I would not play you. Not because of what Brexit caused, but because it's clearly a troll move and you're trying to be inflammatory or clever.
Except it isn't. It's plastering irrelevant out of universe references on something you could be creative with. It's wasteful.

A smart take would be Imperxit, or whatever. Parody the campaign with 40K references, posters and banners,

This sums up my feelings well.

You're not making any commentary on Brexit. You're just sticking it on your models and gleefully awaiting for your opponent to get angry at you for whatever reason.

Edit: I mean, what are you trying to say by plastering it on your Knight? That by putting it on an Imperial warmachine Brexit is akin to Imperial ideology of xenophobia, nationalism and ignorance? That Brexit is a path to war? What's the point?

 TheCustomLime wrote:
What's the point?

Trolling.

Yeah I don't particularly like political statements in miniatures. I'd still play you, and if it looked good enough I wouldn't mind, but you can guarantee if it looked like something you just threw together on a weekend I'd be judging you poorly in my own mind. And if you actually started spouting political crap during a game I wouldn't be impressed at all.

IMO fantasy/sci fi wargaming isn't a good place for discussing politics, many people use it as an escape from the faeces slinging world of political discussions.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:

 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
Not wanting to be pedantic, although I will be, it is the Union Flag.

It is both the Union Jack and the Union Flag; both are acceptable.

The Union Jack can only be displayed on board a ship - so if your army is also made up of boats, no problem!

Otherwise, NMwT is correct, it's the Union Flag.

Just because Jack is used incorrectly frequently, that doesn't make it "acceptable" it just makes people wrong a lot.

I have always called it the Union Jack regardless of whether it's on the bow of a ship or not. After researching, I will continue to do so...

It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.

http://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/british-flags/the-union-jack-or-the-union-flag/

I would say its trollish and just in poor taste. A political debate after game would be acceptable but to purposefully model and paint a theme around a political idea or view screams of trying to be edgy and get a rise out of someone. With that logic in mind, even if you may not be that type of person I would venture on the safe side and avoid playing and interacting with you to avoid potential drama and a unenjoyable game.

Bringing real politics into 40k impresses and amuses very few people, and it certainly wouldnt create a welcoming atmosphere for finding opponents. No favors are done for anyonr that way.

As others have noted, you can put a little effort in and do an in-universe parody and maybe make that work, but just straight up no filter? Tackless and tastless flame bait is all that is.

If you did the military subdued union flag on your rhinos (white or grey over base colour) it might actually look good.

Wargaming has no place for real-world politics one way or another man.

I'd play you probably, because a game is a game. but I will do my very best to ignore your political statement.

I'd play against you.

Also I think any sort of army theme that is so period specific is going to really age poorly. I mean in like a few years hardly anyone is going to care.

 Gamgee wrote:
Also I think any sort of army theme that is so period specific is going to really age poorly. I mean in like a few years hardly anyone is going to care.

That remains to be seen, especially for UK citizens.

@OP If it looked alright I would play you but I prefer the talk about politics kept to a minimum. I like to keep important issues separate from my downtime.

I don't really care about the politics, but I'd refuse to play you anyway.

Not because of the politics, just because you're a stranger and I don't like being around strangers in real life.

 Pouncey wrote:
I don't really care about the politics, but I'd refuse to play you anyway.

Not because of the politics, just because you're a stranger and I don't like being around strangers in real life.

We don't have to be strangers. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 Frozocrone wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Also I think any sort of army theme that is so period specific is going to really age poorly. I mean in like a few years hardly anyone is going to care.

That remains to be seen, especially for UK citizens.

@OP If it looked alright I would play you but I prefer the talk about politics kept to a minimum. I like to keep important issues separate from my downtime.

Yeah. Either no one will care, or most people will hate it in a few years when everything shakes out and we see the effects.

'You are a tossed go back to 4chan' option? :p

But seriously, do what you want with your toy soldiers. People paint Nazis, red army, American GIs, and other armies in the past present in their 40k models. You'll probably regret this one in a year or two, though.

 Crazyterran wrote:
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You'll probably regret this one in a year or two, though.

^ This.

I would play you; I'd find it savagely tasteful, but on that little point above, I'd not exceed ~500 points of army completely themed this way.
At least that way, if you do feel the need to never put it into the light of day, you can paint over it all in a not-so-daunting task.

Having said that, a dubious looking Purple and Yellow army (Emperor's Children?) with a captain that actually has Nigel Farage's head (that you wouldn't notice unless you looked close) would give you freedom to choose when to unleash the Politics.

 Verviedi wrote:
I hate political bs in models. It's basically the equivalent of making your banners into Trump or Hillary signs. It's tacky and flame-baity.

Same here.

This is as tacky as Nazi Space Marines or KKK IG.

Don't be tacky.

You English have a lot of black humour.

Painting takes awhile, consider this, by time your done your army, Brexit will likely be old news, and people will have moved onto something else being the harbringer oif the end times.

I don't know about a Brexit Army, But I do know that labour themed army will not shoot at the enemy. After all I remember Labour leader Corbyn saying that he would not allow the Police to shoot at terrorists in case of an attack.

Doesn't it break the immersion? Why on earth would chaos marines care about the UK from 38,000 years before their time?

Really depends on why you're painting them full in union flags.

If you're doing it to make some gloating political statement that I would avoid playing you as i could probably guarantee myself knowingly I would be avoiding a game where someone is provoking me to raise up some debate when really I just want to play plastic man-dolly spacemen making space war.

If your doing because you think the colours are interesting to paint onto minis then I don't see why not as it looks like you just want to play a game.

Its one of those "rule of cool" ideas for me, if you're doing it because you think it looks cool then go for it, but don't bother with an idea based on your political statements. I remember a story years ago on Dakka where someone was talking about how one person in WHFB made a whole night goblin army and converted it to look like a KKK cult because IIRC said person agreed with the KKK. Supposedly he was shown the way out soon after.

 happygolucky wrote:
Really depends on why you're painting them full in union flags.

If you're doing it to make some gloating political statement that I would avoid playing you as i could probably guarantee myself knowingly I would be avoiding a game where someone is provoking me to raise up some debate when really I just want to play plastic man-dolly spacemen making space war.

If your doing because you think the colours are interesting to paint onto minis then I don't see why not as it looks like you just want to play a game.

Its one of those "rule of cool" ideas for me, if you're doing it because you think it looks cool then go for it, but don't bother with an idea based on your political statements. I remember a story years ago on Dakka where someone was talking about how one person in WHFB made a whole night goblin army and converted it to look like a KKK cult because IIRC said person agreed with the KKK. Supposedly he was shown the way out soon after.

I don't really "get" any of this.

1. Why would you want to mix real world politics with WHFB?

2. If you're going to do a KKK themed army, why would you pick orks?

3. Granted that you've done so, why should a person's political opinions have any impact on whether you want to play against him, or whether he should be allowed in a gaming shop?

To take an extreme example: suppose that I have a Nazi themed army and it's very overt, and if you asked me why I did it, I said: "Because I am a Neo-Nazi. This is what I'm into. This is what I agree with." So what? Unless I'm shoving it down your throat in-game, why on earth should you care?

I wouldn't mind your knight, I'd just think you're a bit of a moron trying to bait people - it has nothing to do with your political views. Mixing politics and games is a bad idea so I'd be hesitant to play you.

You'd be better off getting Praetorians.

 Traditio wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
Really depends on why you're painting them full in union flags.

If you're doing it to make some gloating political statement that I would avoid playing you as i could probably guarantee myself knowingly I would be avoiding a game where someone is provoking me to raise up some debate when really I just want to play plastic man-dolly spacemen making space war.

If your doing because you think the colours are interesting to paint onto minis then I don't see why not as it looks like you just want to play a game.

Its one of those "rule of cool" ideas for me, if you're doing it because you think it looks cool then go for it, but don't bother with an idea based on your political statements. I remember a story years ago on Dakka where someone was talking about how one person in WHFB made a whole night goblin army and converted it to look like a KKK cult because IIRC said person agreed with the KKK. Supposedly he was shown the way out soon after.

I don't really "get" any of this.

1. Why would you want to mix real world politics with WHFB?

2. If you're going to do a KKK themed army, why would you pick orks?

I don't know because I never made that army.

As for Goblins, it was probably because it was the easiest to convert with the whole pointy hat thing they have going on.

3. Granted that you've done so, why should a person's political opinions have any impact on whether you want to play against him, or whether he should be allowed in a gaming shop?

To take an extreme example: suppose that I have a Nazi themed army and it's very overt, and if you asked me why I did it, I said: "Because I am a Neo-Nazi. This is what I'm into. This is what I agree with." So what? Unless I'm shoving it down your throat in-game, why on earth should you care?

That's the problem. Its baiting people into a political debate when all they really want to do is just chuck some dice and play space war.

IIRC he was shown the door because he was gloating or shouting about how black people were "lesser beings" and describing what he wanted to do to black people (and apparently it wasn't very nice things if you can imagine).

happygolucky wrote:As for Goblins, it was probably because it was the easiest to convert with the whole pointy hat thing they have going on.

I suppose that makes sense. It's still counter-intuitive, though.

That's the problem. Its baiting people into a political debate when all they really want to do is just chuck some dice and play space war.

Let's go with the KKK themed pointy hooded orks. Let us that I have such an army, and let us suppose that I make no mention of why I themed my orks that way. You ask me.

I could give you any number of answers:

"I thought that orks in white robes and pointy hoods would look cool. I'm aware that they look like KKK members, but that's not what I was going for."
"The thought of KKK orks amuses me. I don't agree with the KKK, of course, but the thought of orks that do just tickles my funny bone."
"I agree with the KKK."

Am I baiting you into a political discussion if I give you one of the first two answers?

IIRC he was shown the door because he was gloating or shouting about how black people were "lesser beings" and describing what he wanted to do to black people (and apparently it wasn't very nice things if you can imagine).

That's obviously right out as far as socially acceptable behavior goes.

 Traditio wrote:

happygolucky wrote:As for Goblins, it was probably because it was the easiest to convert with the whole pointy hat thing they have going on.

I suppose that makes sense. It's still counter-intuitive, though.

That's the problem. Its baiting people into a political debate when all they really want to do is just chuck some dice and play space war.

Let's go with the KKK themed pointy hooded orks. Let us that I have such an army, and let us suppose that I make no mention of why I themed my orks that way. You ask me.

I could give you any number of answers:

"I thought that orks in white robes and pointy hoods would look cool. I'm aware that they look like KKK members, but that's not what I was going for."
"The thought of KKK orks amuses me. I don't agree with the KKK, of course, but the thought of orks that do just tickles my funny bone."
"I agree with the KKK."

Am I baiting you into a political discussion if I give you one of the first two answers?

Well lets go back to my OP to find out the answer:

 happygolucky wrote:
Really depends on why you're painting them full in union flags.

If you're doing it to make some gloating political statement that I would avoid playing you as i could probably guarantee myself knowingly I would be avoiding a game where someone is provoking me to raise up some debate when really I just want to play plastic man-dolly spacemen making space war.

If your doing because you think the colours are interesting to paint onto minis then I don't see why not as it looks like you just want to play a game.

Its one of those "rule of cool" ideas for me, if you're doing it because you think it looks cool then go for it, but don't bother with an idea based on your political statements. I remember a story years ago on Dakka where someone was talking about how one person in WHFB made a whole night goblin army and converted it to look like a KKK cult because IIRC said person agreed with the KKK. Supposedly he was shown the way out soon after.

So going with my quote, if you thought it looked cool or funny then I would play you (even if I thought maybe the second one might have been in poor taste) but if you're doing it to make a point about white supremacy then I'm not going to bother and instead play that guy who brought Eldar and wanted to talk about DC/Marvel movies/comic/games and which beverage he likes instead.

IIRC he was shown the door because he was gloating or shouting about how black people were "lesser beings" and describing what he wanted to do to black people (and apparently it wasn't very nice things if you can imagine).

That's obviously right out as far as socially acceptable behavior goes.

Yup. Some people are That's just the free package when coming into this world

Ignore this posting. I decided to delete it.

Would you paint the St. Andrew's cross out of the Union Jacks when the Scottish leave?

I think most gamers (people?) from the UK - and beyond - are gong to have strong opinions on Brexit. But as has been said multiple times in this thread already I think wargaming is escapism for most people, therefore don't want real world politics mixed in there.

Personally I think it's very bad taste.

We're it gets tricky is for people to play against you or not. Since you are forcing real world crap on your opponents during their well deserved leisure time whether they want it or not (and whether it's done as a joke or not, which seems like you are serious as you state you are a 'hard core patriot') I would agree with anyone who decided to play someone else instead of you for a pick up game.

Since I mostly play at tournaments it's a hard position. I'd be bugged by your poor taste in army, but since I'd no doubt traveled a significant distance to play for the weekend as I live in a very rural location,id probably grudgingly play against it so as to not have you spoil my weekend by having me forfeit the round. Then I'd have a drink with my mates after the game and tell them about 'this gakker with his Brexit army' I had to play against.

Unless you'd come and join us and buy the drinks. Then you may end up having an expensive weekend.

Sounds tacky as hell to me.