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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Saw it last night with the family - it's a very visually spectacular effort. The humour was nicely played and Cumberbatch was good (although the accent was hard to take at times). Not overly impressed with Mads Mikkelson, though - more a cypher than a full-blown character.
Are a fair few similarities to iron Man in many ways -- tbf that's as much the comics "fault" there as much as anything else -- but -- like all the marvel films -- it is slick and holds together very well.
Once again though the villain is indeed a bit....... meh ...
never really seems to actually do much and his motivation is kind of smoothed over/dropped into the story with little impact.
Worth a watch though
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I thought they might have been a bit more subtle with regards to what gem was inside the eye amulet, but instead they come out and state it.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I thought it was a really good film up until the end. A lot more humour than I thought I'd see, though to be fair I was kind of expecting a Sherlock style performance as that's all I know Cumberbatch from.
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I don't buy for a moment that trapping yourself and an ultra powerful extra dimensional entity in a time loop is a good idea. If the two of you can't hurt each other, or you have the upper hand, maybe. Strange effectively trapped himself in a torture/murder loop, where he's killed/dismembered/etc over and over again, and has to relive it constantly. That's some full on cursed by the gods level hell- murdered every day and reborn the next morning (only faster!). Dormamu may not like the scenario, but I find it highly dubious that an eternal entity like that would break before the torture victim.
Kojiro wrote: I thought it was a really good film up until the end. A lot more humour than I thought I'd see, though to be fair I was kind of expecting a Sherlock style performance as that's all I know Cumberbatch from.
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I don't buy for a moment that trapping yourself and an ultra powerful extra dimensional entity in a time loop is a good idea. If the two of you can't hurt each other, or you have the upper hand, maybe. Strange effectively trapped himself in a torture/murder loop, where he's killed/dismembered/etc over and over again, and has to relive it constantly. That's some full on cursed by the gods level hell- murdered every day and reborn the next morning (only faster!). Dormamu may not like the scenario, but I find it highly dubious that an eternal entity like that would break before the torture victim.
It has never been subject to time, it must have been a terrifying concept to it
Formosa wrote: It has never been subject to time, it must have been a terrifying concept to it
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Well there's no real way to know how a timeless, ancient inter dimensional intelligence will react to something. But it understands not having something, wanting it, and that it can acquire it. I'm not sure how it could interact with out dimension and not have at least concept of time. Granted being caught in a loop would be scary, but Strange outright says he's the source of the loop. As a result, Dormamu destroys him. Over and over and over. And apparently Dormamu tires of killing Strange faster than Strange tires of being mutilated and murdered. And to be fair, being endlessly murdered must be pretty terrifying to Stephen. Neither one of them should like the scenario, but I believe Strange should like it far less.
It was good, but not great. I felt it was too similar to Iron Man, Strange lacked humility (he was basically Tony Stark meets House the entire movie) and villain was bit thin, even if Mikkelsen is always pleasure to watch.
But that aside, it was a good, fun movie with some depth and good casting.
Do I need to spoiler stuff? I'll do it just in case...
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Ok so the after credits scene with Thor. Have I missed something along the line or didn't we last know that Loki had replaced Odin and was impersonating him on the throne? And now suddenly Thor and Loki are on earth looking for Odin together?
Looks like that scene takes place part of the way through the movie in question -- bit like the Bucky scene spoiler for Civil War.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I did think that and then maybe thought that Thor and Loki were in cahoots to keep the asgardians in the dark as to what happened with Odin whilst they both did their thing to try and find him.
So Loki and Thor fake Loki's death, Loki pretends to be Odin whilst Thor and Loki look for the real Odin.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
I saw it and enjoyed it. This is going in relatively clean. The only pre-existing knowledge I had of Dr. Strange was that he was a big-wig magic dude from the Marvel universe. So no pre-conceved notions, or “they got that wrong” moments to bother me.
Overall, it was a classic origin story movie. And done well at that. Take a guy, give him power, introduce his world, friends, and villain(s). No idea how many easter eggs are hidden around, or foreshadowing. But it stood on it’s own two feet. I didn’t have to grill my more comic book savvy friends after the movie to figure out who was who, and what went on.
I saw it in 3D, which was probably a good call. While I mostly detest the tacked-on gimmicky nature of 3D these days, I think it helps with the reality-bending magic vibe of the movie.
I saw it today and I liked it. - A lot more than Civil War (which I really disliked).
Wasn't entirely convinced by Cumberbatchs accent either though. Some sort of cross between Harrison Fords and Greg Houses.
I didn't spot any real Easter eggs during the crazy space scenes. - I was looking for some Guardians related stuff.
I was really impressed that Bleeker's Street looked pretty much identical to how it was portrayed in Ultimate Alliance (and therefore I'm assuming the comics).
Overall enjoyable film, kinda wish I saw it on 3d - it could be one of the few films where's 3d is really worth it. But I couldn't find my glasses.
Won't be buying it on DVD or Blu-ray but happy enough to watch it again when it comes on TV.
Oh and there's a mid credits scene and a post credits scene.
I just saw the movie, and I have to say it was really good (like most of the MCU movies). The visuals were really amazing (if a bit trippy) and well worth seeing in 3D. Benedict Cumberbatch is a pretty good actor (I even liked him okay as Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness), and he did well in the lead role in this movie.
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I am definitely looking forward even more to Thor: Ragnarok after seeing the mid-credit sequence of Thor and Dr. Strange talking together. Also, if I've counted correctly, we've now seen 5 out of 6 of the Infinity stones. I wonder which movie will have the sixth one in it?
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Overall a pretty solid movie, nothing for me that really stood out, but then there were no real awful moments either. Visuals were good. Acting was solid on the whole.
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How it ended with Mordo, was probably the weakest moment of the film "you broke natural law to save the earth and there's always a price" I'm leaving in a huff now. Then followed up by "I'm stealing your ability to use magic, because there's to many sorcerers, so I'm removing your ability to walk" because that's definitely the problem with magic users, using it to fix your disability
I get that he's unbending in regards to this, but the letting the big bad win just so you get to stand on the moral high ground because you're paying for someone else's breaking natural law, then you're an idiot. Which is basically what he was suggesting at the end.
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Nevelon wrote: I saw it and enjoyed it. This is going in relatively clean. The only pre-existing knowledge I had of Dr. Strange was that he was a big-wig magic dude from the Marvel universe. So no pre-conceved notions, or “they got that wrong” moments to bother me.
Overall, it was a classic origin story movie. And done well at that. Take a guy, give him power, introduce his world, friends, and villain(s). No idea how many easter eggs are hidden around, or foreshadowing. But it stood on it’s own two feet. I didn’t have to grill my more comic book savvy friends after the movie to figure out who was who, and what went on.
I saw it in 3D, which was probably a good call. While I mostly detest the tacked-on gimmicky nature of 3D these days, I think it helps with the reality-bending magic vibe of the movie.
I went in with the same knowledge level: not much.
I was very entertained, much more so than Thor 1 and Iron Man 2 and 3. It wasn't GotG good, or Avengers good, but it was a solid Origins story with easy tie ins to the Avengers group, when needed.
I liked the first end of credits bonus, but not the second. It just felt wrong to me.
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Like when Sinestro grabbed the yellow power ring at the end of the Stupid ass Green Lantern movie. Why? That's such a leap for Dudly Do Right to take.
I thought they did a fine job setting up Mordo as a foil for Strange. The whole movie showed him as being inflexible about his outlook and in the end after finding out that his mentor and his friend had broken the rules he has decided that the proper response is that to many people are allowed to break the laws of existence so they must be culled to bring that number down to only those willing to, in his mind, do the right thing with power.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
I quite enjoyed it and felt like the end was a good "character arc moment"
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Strange was arrogant because of his lack of failing, yet made the sacrifice to fail over and over again just to stall Dormamu. It occurred to me that eons could have passed with them reliving the same moment before Dormamu said "uncle"
Galef wrote: I quite enjoyed it and felt like the end was a good "character arc moment"
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Strange was arrogant because of his lack of failing, yet made the sacrifice to fail over and over again just to stall Dormamu. It occurred to me that eons could have passed with them reliving the same moment before Dormamu said "uncle"
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It also played into the character taking other avenues and not being purely a physical fighter. I heard someone complain that there wasn't a big, fx driven fight between them but that wouldn't make sense honestly.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Galef wrote: I quite enjoyed it and felt like the end was a good "character arc moment"
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Strange was arrogant because of his lack of failing, yet made the sacrifice to fail over and over again just to stall Dormamu. It occurred to me that eons could have passed with them reliving the same moment before Dormamu said "uncle"
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Except it's completely beyond belief that any human- even a hero- could endure being being mutilated and killed indefinitely. Think about it- Strange has to basically walk into his own, painful death, over and over and over in the hopes that the eternal entity he knows almost nothing about will not only tire of killing him, but we willing to give up the Earth- the thing it wants most in the universe.
Except it's completely beyond belief that any human- even a hero- could endure being being mutilated and killed indefinitely.
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This is where your flaw is as it seems not everyone believes that; it seems completely beyond your belief not everyone's.
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This. We have seen Strange endure a lot through this film. Relatively quick deaths in quick succession isn't really any more traumatic than the anguish we saw him go through with the loss of his hands, for example.
So if anything Strange is not the one enduring torture in this scenario. He's being killed, yes, but from what we see of him and are told I don't think he fears death but rather failure, to the point that he would do and endure absolutely anything to prevent such a failure. Dormamu on the other hand has absolutely no experience of failure or of being powerless and so finding itself in such a position would cause it far more mental anguish, confusion and fear than simply dying, no matter how many times, would cause Strange.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
Except it's completely beyond belief that any human- even a hero- could endure being being mutilated and killed indefinitely.
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This is where your flaw is as it seems not everyone believes that; it seems completely beyond your belief not everyone's.
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This. We have seen Strange endure a lot through this film. Relatively quick deaths in quick succession isn't really any more traumatic than the anguish we saw him go through with the loss of his hands, for example.
So if anything Strange is not the one enduring torture in this scenario. He's being killed, yes, but from what we see of him and are told I don't think he fears death but rather failure, to the point that he would do and endure absolutely anything to prevent such a failure. Dormamu on the other hand has absolutely no experience of failure or of being powerless and so finding itself in such a position would cause it far more mental anguish, confusion and fear than simply dying, no matter how many times, would cause Strange.
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It's also believable that Dr. Strange set himself "outside" the loop, knowing that he may have to relive that moment over and over again. Maybe that's why he kept starting with the "I manna make a Bargain" line. So if he had no memory of each time he "died", then each time he would be starting "fresh" in the hopes that Dormamu would eventually tire of "time" He would obviously know that he had to relive it each time, but would have no memory of it, so could not be "broken" per se
I don't know if anyone noticed this, but there were a few easter eggs during the car scene. He was offered to do a back surgery on the hammer industries test pilot from Iron Man 2. I missed the rest on the list though so I don't know if they were all easter eggs or not.
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