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Actually it is thought to be War Machine from Civil War from when he was shot down. The guy in that suit from IM2...well...he be dead. Well, most likely. The other mentioned was someone struck by lightning and that is thought to most likely be the new Captain Marvel.

 Ahtman wrote:
Actually it is thought to be War Machine from Civil War from when he was shot down. The guy in that suit from IM2...well...he be dead. Well, most likely. The other mentioned was someone struck by lightning and that is thought to most likely be the new Captain Marvel.

Nope, it's the Hammer guy. Hammer actually says in IM2 "the test pilot survived" when the clip is shown before Congress. It is also establishing the fact that Dr. Strange's story begins at an earlier point than the current crop of Marvel movies. He injures his hands during Iron Man 2, then completes his training and faces down Dormammu just prior to Cap 2, prompting Hydra/Shield to list him in the group of people they plan to kill with their super-killy helicarriers.

That... Is something they could have done with being clearer on...

squidhills wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
Actually it is thought to be War Machine from Civil War from when he was shot down. The guy in that suit from IM2...well...he be dead. Well, most likely. The other mentioned was someone struck by lightning and that is thought to most likely be the new Captain Marvel.

Nope, it's the Hammer guy. Hammer actually says in IM2 "the test pilot survived" when the clip is shown before Congress. It is also establishing the fact that Dr. Strange's story begins at an earlier point than the current crop http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/quote/60/9022901.pageof Marvel movies. He injures his hands during Iron Man 2, then completes his training and faces down Dormammu just prior to Cap 2, prompting Hydra/Shield to list him in the group of people they plan to kill with their super-killy helicarriers.

So then how do we explain the director and writer of Dr. Strange explicitly stating that when Strange is listed in Cap 2 it is because of his potential to be a threat to HYDRA but that Strange himself was not yet doing anything magical, nor was he listed because of that. We have contradicting information being presented.

Not only that but the majority of things I've seen talk about it refer to Rody and not complete spinal destruction guy, so pretending it is some fixed idea that no one believes seems a bit off, or perhaps just wishful fan thinking.

 Ahtman wrote:


So then how do we explain the director and writer of Dr. Strange explicitly stating that when Strange is listed in Cap 2 it is because of his potential to be a threat to HYDRA but that Strange himself was not yet doing anything magical, nor was he listed because of that. We have contradicting information being presented.

Not only that but the majority of things I've seen talk about it refer to Rody and not complete spinal destruction guy, so pretending it is some fixed idea that no one believes seems a bit off, or perhaps just wishful fan thinking.

There isn't enough evidence that it is Rhody. The terminology used when the injured man is brought up hints toward it not being Rhodes. "Test pilot" and "some kind of experimental power suit" don't lean towards "established super hero in a spare Iron Man outfit" as much as they lean towards a test pilot (as in IM2) injured in an experimental (as in IM2) power suit. As of Cap 3, Rhodes isn't a test pilot, he's the Iron Patriot who is an established super hero. Strange's aid would have been much more likely to say "we've got the Iron Patriot pilot who was injured in an accident" rather than something vague about a spinal injury in an experimental power suit.

And was the director and writer of Dr. Strange the director and writer of Cap 2? Because if the guy writing Strange isn't the guy who wrote Cap 2, then what he thinks about why Hydra wants Strange dead can be very different than what the writer of Cap 2 thinks about why Hydra wants Strange dead.

I saw it and liked it quite a bit - and I'm thinking I really should have seen it in 3D too!

I've been avoiding spoilers and threads about the movie for some time now, until I could finally see it - and I did last Thursday.

Did I miss the outrage over the fact that they turned Mordo black and then made him into a villain?

 Alpharius wrote:
I saw it and liked it quite a bit - and I'm thinking I really should have seen it in 3D too!

I've been avoiding spoilers and threads about the movie for some time now, until I could finally see it - and I did last Thursday.

Did I miss the outrage over the fact that they turned Mordo black and then made him into a villain?

Idk about the black part, but Mordo's always been a villain.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I saw it and liked it quite a bit - and I'm thinking I really should have seen it in 3D too!

I've been avoiding spoilers and threads about the movie for some time now, until I could finally see it - and I did last Thursday.

Did I miss the outrage over the fact that they turned Mordo black and then made him into a villain?

Idk about the black part, but Mordo's always been a villain.

And as the character is a "Do bad things to try to make sure worse things don't happen" kinda guy (or at least in this film) then Chiwetel Ejiofor is a good bet, he managed to pull it off well in Serenity.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I saw it and liked it quite a bit - and I'm thinking I really should have seen it in 3D too!

I've been avoiding spoilers and threads about the movie for some time now, until I could finally see it - and I did last Thursday.

Did I miss the outrage over the fact that they turned Mordo black and then made him into a villain?

Idk about the black part, but Mordo's always been a villain.

Yes, I know that!

I was just curious if people were upset about the whole deal, not just the 'villain' part.

I would've rather they waited until the next movie to 'reveal' it all though.

 Alpharius wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I saw it and liked it quite a bit - and I'm thinking I really should have seen it in 3D too!

I've been avoiding spoilers and threads about the movie for some time now, until I could finally see it - and I did last Thursday.

Did I miss the outrage over the fact that they turned Mordo black and then made him into a villain?

Idk about the black part, but Mordo's always been a villain.

Yes, I know that!

I was just curious if people were upset about the whole deal, not just the 'villain' part.

I would've rather they waited until the next movie to 'reveal' it all though.

Gotcha. Idk, I thought it was fine, but I agree starting off Strange 2 with that same scene might have had more impact.

I didn't know anything about the Dr. Strange comic, other than he used "magic" going into the movie.

My thoughts on Mordo's final scene are posted earlier (page 2?).

I look forward to him on the second movie, however.

Overall, I really liked the movie. I thought that the action and effects were well done and felt that I had actually gotten something out of watching it in 3D. The writing was pretty good and there were no really obvious pacing issues or bad dialogue. I really liked how Strange stuck to his principles and sought out alternative solutions to the final conflict instead of being one of those heroes that bemoans violence in their free time, the punches people until the plot is resolved.

My chief complaint was the use of the cape to serve as some comedy relief sidekick, but that only consisted of three scenes and did not take away from the rest of the movie.

 reds8n wrote:

Spoiler:

I thought they might have been a bit more subtle with regards to what gem was inside the eye amulet, but instead they come out and state it.

 Alpharius wrote:
Did I miss the outrage over the fact that they turned Mordo black and then made him into a villain?

I don't like that they made Mordo black!!1!One!!
*frothes at mouth*
*dies from mouth-froth*

Screw it (Still one of my favourite Shortpacked strips):

This one gets a solid C. With the exception of Strange wrangling Dormamu (which was the one time he got to be a clever wizard type guy), this was an unremarkable film with some major flaws. Unfortunately, whoever wrote the script (or maybe whoever edited the theatrical cut) did not seem to be interested in character arc or relationships. Seems like The Powers That Be considered those rather crucial elements to be filler between action sequences. And yet the only time I was flat-out bored was during action sequences - particularly when Strange and Mordo flee through the M.C. Escher-esque Mirror World, which was a bit like watching a hamster running on its wheel. All in all, entertaining enough to watch once and forget.

I would say the worst thing about the movie was that they had to make it an origin story.

I hope they do not need to do that for the Black Panther film. I haven't seen Civil War yet, so I am unsure how much they have revealed about his backstory yet.

 Easy E wrote:
I would say the worst thing about the movie was that they had to make it an origin story.

I think this could have been okay, had the people responsible for the film been interested in his origin. As things stand, they seemed to just want to get it out of the way except that it was the whole movie.

 Manchu wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
I would say the worst thing about the movie was that they had to make it an origin story.

I think this could have been okay, had the people responsible for the film been interested in his origin. As things stand, they seemed to just want to get it out of the way except that it was the whole movie.

They had to make it an origin story, due to Strange being a bit of a minor character. Besides, what was wrong with it? I think it was fine and about on par with the 45 minute animated film.

 Easy E wrote:
I would say the worst thing about the movie was that they had to make it an origin story.

I hope they do not need to do that for the Black Panther film. I haven't seen Civil War yet, so I am unsure how much they have revealed about his backstory yet.

You mean the story of BP, an arrogant guy that needs to be humbled before he can find himself as a hero, fully embrace his abilities, and dispatch a tomato can villain?

You don't think we need to see that? I sure do.

I must be too easy to please, or perhaps too biased/in love with the source materials.

I liked this movie a lot, and enjoyed myself during the 2 hour run time.

THe only complaint I had was that the theater showed us too many previews beforehand!

They seem to be showing more and more previews and regular commercials. I fething hate regular commercials. I just paid more fething money to see a show than HBO costs for a month. Do not show me a fething coke ad!

Testify!

Place I've usually gone in the past has a solid thirty minutes of commercials and previews before the movie starts. I've literally timed it. Would show up to movies fifteen minutes last to skip the commercials and just catch the previews.

The new place I went to this time had no commercials at all, just some previews. Hell, they even have recliners with non-shared arm rests. Definitely got to be my new priority place to see movies.

I usually try to get an aisle seat, so I can turn up 20 minutes "late".

 gorgon wrote:

 Easy E wrote:
I would say the worst thing about the movie was that they had to make it an origin story.

I hope they do not need to do that for the Black Panther film. I haven't seen Civil War yet, so I am unsure how much they have revealed about his backstory yet.

You mean the story of BP, an arrogant guy that needs to be humbled before he can find himself as a hero, fully embrace his abilities, and dispatch a tomato can villain?

You don't think we need to see that? I sure do.

IIRC his is a bit more of a story of petty Vengeance than actually doing heroic stuff. So basically arrogant guy, has terrible wrong done to hm, he has a training montage, gains wisdom, gets vengeance on tomato can villain that did him wrong.

So much more compelling!

Caught this one on rental. Meh. Seemed like it could have just been called Marvel Magic Hero. Arrogant supersmart white guy screws himself but through his tenacity, he outdoes everyone else who has been trying for longer and beats the bad guys + gets the girl. Pretty much a parade of clichés, melodrama, and spectacle. So par for a superhero movie.

The end was particularly dumb.

Agree entirely with your review except forRegarding Mordo:It's just frustrating that studios are less and less interested in making complete, stand-alone movies as opposed to episodes in an ongoing serial.

Or, we've not just seen the consequences yet...

@A Town Called Malus

Yeah, what I'm suggesting is that Dormammu tested whether he could do that and concluded that he could not.

I just find that somewhat unbelievable given Dormammu's supposed power level. Likewise, a being like that should probably be able to sense the stone and getting ahold of it would probably be a Bad Thing (see also Loki). Likewise, even a bargain would be insanely dangerous as such a being would inevitably build in some trickery. Deals with the devil don't usually turn out very well, after all (ask John Constantine!). Maybe even using that as a link to Mordo?

Instead, they do typical all flash/brute force villain thing.

Oh well, there is a gauntlet to fill!