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Celestial Lions seems like a possible candidate.

Unless it was a chapter that went renegade - Huron's merry band of space pirates, maybe? Mind you, the list of renegade chapters would suggest that if they were counting renegades, there'd probably be more than one "failure".
Hmm, seems there are rather a lot of potentials, when you think about it.

I suspect that it's a throwaway line that will never be addressed by GW, but it might equally be a plot hook for people to make up their own stories with.

It's not the Galactic Partridges, because their ]shoulderpad is in the DW sprue. It's not Reasonable Marines because they are, y'know, reasonable.

Could be ANGRY MARINES.

Psienesis wrote:
Could be Exorcists or Relictors.

The Relictors were excommunicated and are now hanging around the Eye of Terror either fighting Chaos or being Chaos, so I don't think the lack of warriors tithed to the DW enters too much consideration when it comes to their honour

Exorcists could be possible, as they have the same mission statement as GK, engage in similar training etc, but aren't as supposedly super secret as the GK are.

But seriously, you would think there would be more than 1 chapter that isn't friendly with the Inquisition.

Maybe the DW have only ever had to call upon one unfriendly chapter for a tithe? The Imperium is hardly a monolith, there's plenty of infighting -- hell, the high lords of terra even had to repurpose the Minotaurs to stop Space Marine Chapters fighting among themselves. I also find it hard to believe there wouldn't be more chapters that are uncooperative.

Then again, maybe crossing the Inquisition is something you don't do and get caught. The Relictors made the mistake of not properly killing all the witnesses. Plus withholding tithes draws all kinds of unwanted attention e.g. Astral Claws.

 nurgle5 wrote:

Psienesis wrote:
Could be Exorcists or Relictors.

The Relictors were excommunicated and are now hanging around the Eye of Terror either fighting Chaos or being Chaos, so I don't think the lack of warriors tithed to the DW enters too much consideration when it comes to their honour

Exorcists could be possible, as they have the same mission statement as GK, engage in similar training etc, but aren't as supposedly super secret as the GK are.

But seriously, you would think there would be more than 1 chapter that isn't friendly with the Inquisition.

Maybe the DW have only ever had to call upon one unfriendly chapter for a tithe? The Imperium is hardly a monolith, there's plenty of infighting -- hell, the high lords of terra even had to repurpose the Minotaurs to stop Space Marine Chapters fighting among themselves. I also find it hard to believe that more chapters would be uncooperative.

Then again, maybe crossing the Inquisition is something you don't do and get caught. The Relictors made the mistake of not properly killing all the witnesses. Plus withholding tithes draws all kinds of unwanted attention e.g. Astral Claws.

Its quite possible it was the Astral Claws. They have a habit of withholding tithes, ie, geneseed, but unlike that, withholding Deathwatch conscription isn't spitting in the Imperium's face. Who's to say he didn't refuse the tithe in the lead up to the Badab War before moving onto withholding his Geneseed, to ensure that he had maximum strength and the men on the ground didn't have any conflicting loyalties. Its one thing to kill brother Marines, its another to kill brother Marines who you've served with in the harshest conditions. That's what made most of the Heresy so disgusting. Many of the prominent names had served together and were close friends. For example, Sigismund and Kharn were "Oath Brothers," who both fought on Terra. It could have been that Sigismund that killed/almost killed Kharn at the battle of Terra. Imagine Sigismund having to put his Oath Brother, now a slavery mindless savage berserker, to the sword. Huron probably had the same idea and couldn't risk his Captains standing down because they had served with the Captain of the enemies.

 Deadshot wrote:

Its quite possible it was the Astral Claws. They have a habit of withholding tithes, ie, geneseed, but unlike that, withholding Deathwatch conscription isn't spitting in the Imperium's face. Who's to say he didn't refuse the tithe in the lead up to the Badab War before moving onto withholding his Geneseed, to ensure that he had maximum strength and the men on the ground didn't have any conflicting loyalties. Its one thing to kill brother Marines, its another to kill brother Marines who you've served with in the harshest conditions. That's what made most of the Heresy so disgusting. Many of the prominent names had served together and were close friends. For example, Sigismund and Kharn were "Oath Brothers," who both fought on Terra. It could have been that Sigismund that killed/almost killed Kharn at the battle of Terra. Imagine Sigismund having to put his Oath Brother, now a slavery mindless savage berserker, to the sword. Huron probably had the same idea and couldn't risk his Captains standing down because they had served with the Captain of the enemies.

Quite possibly it was the Astral Claws, but as with the Relictors, I can't help but feel all the excommunication and heresy that came later would dwarf withholding tithes to the DW as a stain on their honour. For the statement to be meaningful it'd have to be a chapter that is still considered loyalist. Besides, when Huron started withholding tithes his intent wasn't an open rebellion that involved fighting his fellow marines, it was a situation that gradually got further and further out of control, very much a road to hell that was paved with good intentions. So I don't think Huron withholding marines from the DW would have been to prevent them bonding with marines from other chapters.

Andar Scarion, Astral Claws Watch Captain
Darrin Rauth Exorcist member of Kill-Team Talon

And Minotaurs are mentioned by name as having to undergo further disciplinary actions within the Deathwatch due to their behavior in the Deathwatch novel.

So all three are out.

There's only one way to do this I suppose

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Loyal_Space_Marine_Chapters_(List)

We must scour all sources to find the culprit and report them to the nearest Hereticus Inquisitor for punishment.

*http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Loyal_Space_Marine_Chapters_(List)

Quite possibly it was the Astral Claws, but as with the Relictors, I can't help but feel all the excommunication and heresy that came later would dwarf withholding tithes to the DW as a stain on their honour. For the statement to be meaningful it'd have to be a chapter that is still considered loyalist. Besides, when Huron started withholding tithes his intent wasn't an open rebellion that involved fighting his fellow marines, it was a situation that gradually got further and further out of control, very much a road to hell that was paved with good intentions. So I don't think Huron withholding marines from the DW would have been to prevent them bonding with marines from other chapters.

Certainly up 'till the point of the Badab War the Astral Claws were still sending marines to the Deathwatch. The Deathwatch RPG has an Astral Claws Watch-captain, for that matter.

 nurgle5 wrote:

Psienesis wrote:
Could be Exorcists or Relictors.

The Relictors were excommunicated and are now hanging around the Eye of Terror either fighting Chaos or being Chaos, so I don't think the lack of warriors tithed to the DW enters too much consideration when it comes to their honour

Exorcists could be possible, as they have the same mission statement as GK, engage in similar training etc, but aren't as supposedly super secret as the GK are.

But seriously, you would think there would be more than 1 chapter that isn't friendly with the Inquisition.

Maybe the DW have only ever had to call upon one unfriendly chapter for a tithe? The Imperium is hardly a monolith, there's plenty of infighting -- hell, the high lords of terra even had to repurpose the Minotaurs to stop Space Marine Chapters fighting among themselves. I also find it hard to believe there wouldn't be more chapters that are uncooperative.

Then again, maybe crossing the Inquisition is something you don't do and get caught. The Relictors made the mistake of not properly killing all the witnesses. Plus withholding tithes draws all kinds of unwanted attention e.g. Astral Claws.

While the Relictors are now ET, they weren't always. Most Codices aren't written with a "this is how it is right this very second" to every aspect, a lot of fluff covers a span of history relevant to the faction. It could be a reference to a pre-excommunication status... but, in the end, tis just a guess.

Red scorpions might be one of the obvious suspects.
I can't imagine them trusting the DW with their geneseed secret.


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The other more obvious option would be a well known GW supported loyalist chapter that was suddenly chained up in some great conflict them selves and could not miss the marines. This would fit perfectly in the campaign drama flow with hints of betrayal and unexpected twists.