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**MechaEmperor7000**

From both pictures, there's some good and the bad and it seems to boil down to the marine's pants:

They're using Terminator-scale legs on a normal-sized marine with thicker wrist bracers.

If that is indeed what they did, then I can see them salvaging the current line very easily since it's just a matter of a leg swap for most kits.

However it just looks very. very weird.

**EnTyme**

Maybe its just that I've gotten so used to the current design, but these just look . . . off. Also, I would definitely say that the "leaked" marine was using a completely different type of bolter. Possibly a new special weapon?

**Fenrir Kitsune**

Bigger sized marines would be fine if an army consisted of about 25 of them, plus a few tanks, for 2000 points. Straight swap for how the points are now - nope. Special unit amongst midget marines - nope.

**MechaEmperor7000**

EnTyme wrote:
Maybe its just that I've gotten so used to the current design, but these just look . . . off. Also, I would definitely say that the "leaked" marine was using a completely different type of bolter. Possibly a new special weapon?

Again it's the legs. If you mentally have the marine's arms fold out to the side of him, you'll realize that it just barely reaches the waist. Normal Human proportions say your hand should reach past your groin.

Granted marines aren't "human" anymore, but the weird proportions are more noticeable here. It's also why most truescale conversions recommend using terminator arms and/or lengthening them with a disc of plasticard along with the legs.

**Commander Cain**

Well well that pic is proof enough for me that those marines are one their way. I wonder if the first one was a prototype as the gun looks very different from the final version?

I'll wait till we have some decent pictures to decide if I like them or not. As of now they look decent but nothing exciting enough to warrant buying any...

**Chikout**

So apologies in advance for the worlds worst photoshop but these look the same size as the deathwatch. Are we sure they are on 32mm bases?
Edit well I will just remove that monstrosity.

**JohnnyHell**

You've just compared a current mini to a current mini. The painting guide in that pic is not the NuMarines. Check the greaves in the pic in OP as the biggest telltale difference.

**gigasnail**

Again, that's the dev sgt from the current devastator kit in the painting guide, not a new model.

Ninja'd.

Pretty sure the pic in the first post is a new model, not disputing that. Just to be clear.

**Galas**

I'm pretty sure that the number of Space Marines in the current size is so big in the planet that we can put them in line and reach the Sun.

So I don't think anyone should be afraid of the fact that they in the future won't be capable of expanding their current marines armies without recurring to new scale marines.

**privateer4hire**

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Bigger sized marines would be fine if an army consisted of about 25 of them, plus a few tanks, for 2000 points. Straight swap for how the points are now - nope. Special unit amongst midget marines - nope.

Excellent points. I would actually push for fewer marines making up a force (with commensurate stats).
Of course, GW would charge much higher prices but they might actually match the fluff.

**MLaw**

If this is or truescale, numarines..whatever.. if that's ever really a thing.. they don't have to just redo the Astartes.. that would also mean Chaos Marines would have to get a redo too.

**Azreal13**

The one that's being held with the paintbrush about to be applied is a dead ringer for the leaked model.

Not the same one, as the pose is different, but the head looks to be the same one.

**Pariah-Miniatures**

Azreal13 wrote:
The one that's being held with the paintbrush about to be applied is a dead ringer for the leaked model.

Not the same one, as the pose is different, but the head looks to be the same one.

check the legs/ knee caps. and its obvious the others on the table are new too, the guns, the helmet and the stature compared to the paint pot

**Azreal13**

Not disputing that, just saying that, as there's still some people determined to hang on to the leak being fake, there's an almost 1:1 analogue for the leak visible in the pic.

**gigasnail**

it's a good pose, too. i dig 'em.

**Chikout**

I was wondering if these guys might be an ultramarines only unit.
The ultramarines don't have any plastic sets except for their primarch, the honour guard and the tyrannic veterans are only in finecast.
This would allow them to do new figs without making regular marines obsolete.

**Kanluwen**

Chikout wrote:
I was wondering if these guys might be an ultramarines only unit.
The ultramarines don't have any plastic sets except for their primarch, the honour guard and the tyrannic veterans are only in finecast.
This would allow them to do new figs without making regular marines obsolete.

Ultramarines have a ton of plastic sets...it's called anything from Codex: Space Marines.

All honesty, it looks more and more like it is intended to be a new unit for Codex: Space Marines.

**JohnnyHell**

Methinks a lot of Marine kits will be phased out.

**Gamgee**

*jumps to AoS* If the Tau and non-marines even survive this as supported model ranges I'll come back in a yearr or more. If not this is farewell.

**Azreal13**

Blimey, in a day of knee jerk reactions, poorly informed rants and declarations that the sky will fall, Gamgee has still managed to make the needle wobble on the overreactionometer.

**Kanluwen**

JohnnyHell wrote:
Methinks a lot of Marine kits will be phased out.

I think Scouts might definitely be one of them, but I would be shocked to see more than them and Finecast stuff.

I'll probably be wrong, but I really do think that whatever these new guys are is going to be something entirely different than just being "Tactical Marines Mark II". The whole point of GW adding the Stormcast with AoS is that they didn't have a really single "iconic" good guy to work with (or at least that seems to have been the impression they were under), not like Chaos had the Chaos Warriors or Marauders and the Undead had Skeletons/Vampires, etc.

**JohnnyHell**

Maybe, but what other time can they streamline the range and reduce SKUs in such a dramatic way? With all the perfectly-formed mini-factions of late the Marine range is looking decidedly bloated. Be interesting to see how it shakes out. I envisage a gradual phasing out of many kits, with new shinies introduced to replace some but not others.

**Kanluwen**

JohnnyHell wrote:
Maybe, but what other time can they streamline the range and reduce SKUs in such a dramatic way? With all the perfectly-formed mini-factions of late the Marine range is looking decidedly bloated. Be interesting to see how it shakes out. I envisage a gradual phasing out of many kits, with new shinies introduced to replace some but not others.

I could see something like the Veteran kits being discontinued/rolled together later.
Dreadnoughts definitely.
Terminators definitely.

**Gamgee**

Azreal13 wrote:
Blimey, in a day of knee jerk reactions, poorly informed rants and declarations that the sky will fall, Gamgee has still managed to make the needle wobble on the overreactionometer.

Well I was planning on doing that anyways so teehee. Getting some combination or Kharadron Overlords, Beastclaw Raiders, Skaven, and/or cthulhu elfs depending on what is or is not released this year for AoS. My 40k budget will likely get slashed (or not slashed) proportionally based on how good nu 40k turns out. Still I've been feeling like going to AoS for awhile now. Just less drama in general and more chill player base.

**Galas**

I'm the only one that likes the Tomb-style Dreadnought more than the new Contemptor model?

The Contemptor to me just look... I don't know. I love my boxy box of Fury :(

Same with Terminators vs Centurions.

**Gamgee**

It doesn't help I'm just about to start my Deathwatch any month now and it feels like they are being invalidated in the lore and model wise.

**Azreal13**

What, because they weren't featured in SW:A?

It isn't 40K that's dramatic, you probably need to ease up a bit, bouncing around like that has to be exhausting.

GW have just spent thousands on a new Deathwatch range, and they've been established in lore for a long time, there's really no reason to think they'll be invalidated outside of personal angst.

**EmperorsChampion**

This is probably my favorite thread.

**Melissia**

Azreal13 wrote:
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My comment was clearly working off of how people prior to this thread described the potential miniature in question (assuming this even is it), and if you had any intent of good faith conversation it would have been obvious that was the intent.

**Gamgee**

Azreal13 wrote:
What, because they weren't featured in SW:A?

It isn't 40K that's dramatic, you probably need to ease up a bit, bouncing around like that has to be exhausting.

GW have just spent thousands on a new Deathwatch range, and they've been established in lore for a long time, there's really no reason to think they'll be invalidated outside of personal angst.

Truth be told... nah not even slightly exhausting. I don't think they will remove factions, but I have a feeling a lot of them are going to get the SoB unsupported treatment outside of existing models. At the end of GS3 if I recall correctly guilliman kills some of the high lords which means changes are likely coming. In AoS they have released a ton of new AoS armies (new armies not old ones) and they haven't added new models to any of them except stormcast. So just because they invest an upfront amount in an army does not mean that army will get updated again. it could be considered a stand alone mini-army.