Necrons OP?

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**Daedalus81**

Grimgold wrote:
I've been checking BCP all afternoon, and tau look like they have it rough right now, like really rough. It might be advisable before creating a duplicate thread (yes this has already been discussed at length) to check your own list to see if the fault was yours before making a post that will be a lighting rod for trolls.

BCP?

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Arachnofiend wrote:
Without FW stuff Necrons are pretty terrible at dealing with big vehicles. Heavy Destroyers are woefully inefficient for their points compared to anyone else's lascannon infantry.

7 points more with the same to hit, but completely removes a rhino's save on a platform that can move 10 without penalty and reroll 1s to hit. I'm not certain it's "woefully inefficient".

**niv-mizzet**

Selym wrote:
Necrons can't be too OP, from a thread comparing win/loss ratios by army:

mrhappyface wrote:
So we have seen the ITC results from the first week but how about we get a Dakka results going? See if we can't compile our own data since the ITC results only covered 100 games.

Post the name of the armies that have played so far in your local group and how many games they have won so far, here are my additions:

Astra Militarium - 36W 23L
Tyranids - 30W 27L
Space Marines - 30W 46L
Eldar - 21W 14L
Orks - 19W 36L
Necrons - 12W 15L

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Please post your results and I'll add them to the running total and try to order them as they change.

You are taking as fact unprovable results from effectively anonymous sources in uncontrolled environments over the Internet?

**Charistoph**

Selym wrote:Necrons can't be too OP, from a thread comparing win/loss ratios by army:

mrhappyface wrote:
So we have seen the ITC results from the first week but how about we get a Dakka results going? See if we can't compile our own data since the ITC results only covered 100 games.

Post the name of the armies that have played so far in your local group and how many games they have won so far, here are my additions:
[*snip*]
Necrons - 12W 15L
[*snip*]

I'm also curious to know how they handled some of those odd rules interactions which are not so explicit or written, such as the multi-Wound RP. I heard that ITC considers them to be Full Wounds, but this list didn't include them nor really provide much room to identify which they were working with.

**torblind**

niv-mizzet wrote:

Then during the games I came to a stunning realization: it's actually not easy to bring down 20 t4 models with a 5+ invuln in one round. Especially if you're wanting to use multiple phases like shooting then assault. It's a simple matter for the necron player to just take casualties in such a way to increase your charge distance. Even just shooting with multiple units presents issues, as the unit can be coherency'd out and a couple guys can be conga lined back to somewhere safe like behind a ruin. You shoot with unit number 1 - 5, kill all but the last few, go to shoot with unit number 6, and suddenly you realize you can't see them anymore. Voila, between an ark and orikan or another cryptek, the whole unit's back. I mean yeah he has to save CP to make the unit fearless, but if I had the option to spend 2 CP to bring 200 points of dudes back, I'd be saving for it too!

Sounds like the guy knows his s***, that too goes a long way.

Regardless, Necrons are a lot harder to play right in 8th. To play their strengths your hand is forced, compared to 7th.

Tournament results will speak slowly start to show if Necrons are OP. The conclusion from those who knows Necrons suggest its not. Initial results from tournament play also suggest its not, but its still early.