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The whole perpetual thing and the many, many deaths and resurrections of Vulkan including the sacrifice of Numeon, means all the story elements are in place to bring back any and and all primarchs.

Wait, what happened with the soul of Ferrus Manus?

Big E used it to purge the webway of daemons alongside dead custodies and loyal astartes, but I don't know what happened to it after that, or if it was just an illusion of him.

 john27 wrote:
Big E used it to purge the webway of daemons alongside dead custodies and loyal astartes

What? Like a broom?

That's a mental image that's going to stick with me.

What happened to Sanguinius body? The Emperor was recovered, Horus was removed from existance but sangys body should have easily been movable. Kind of weird that they didn't do the stasis thing like they did with Guilliman.

this brings up an interesting point to me, we know that the bodies of the primarchs, while special in there own way, can and have been replicated, Horus and Ferrus specifically by Fabulous Bill.

But what actually happens to the souls, are they disipated into the warp like normal souls, can chaos trap them?

We also know that the chaos gods can bring back dead primarchs if it wants to, this is why The Big E totally destroyed Horus soul, to stop him being remade by the chaos gods.

So with all this, would it be possible somehow for Sangy, Alpharius and Ferrus to be reborn through more esotoric means, now if they brought back Ferrus or Alpharius, I would be cool with that, especially if Alphy was brought back by the Imperium, that would be troll tastic, Sangy? nope nope nope, he should never be brought back, his death is too pivotal and important to be diluted by a Deus Ex moment.

 Nerak wrote:
What happened to Sanguinius body? The Emperor was recovered, Horus was removed from existance but sangys body should have easily been movable. Kind of weird that they didn't do the stasis thing like they did with Guilliman.

His body was recovered and is interred in a temple mausoleum with his body on display on Baal.

 Nerak wrote:
What happened to Sanguinius body? The Emperor was recovered, Horus was removed from existance but sangys body should have easily been movable. Kind of weird that they didn't do the stasis thing like they did with Guilliman.

Sanguinius' body is interred in the Golden Sarcophagus, within the deepest and most protected recesses of their fortress-monestary on Baal. Chaos has launched numerous assaults to try to claim it as well, but each one was failed-- in fact, foiling the most successful assault was where Brother Rafen earned his fame.

Somehow, he seems to still be producing blood, however? As BA never seem to run out of minute portions of his blood. But that might be warp shenanigans.

Wasnt there a rumor that Ferrus is going to come back leading the Legion of the Damned?

There was. It also claimed that there would be around 3 other primarchs in the legion. I'm pretty certain it was bait.

 ChargerIIC wrote:

 john27 wrote:
Big E used it to purge the webway of daemons alongside dead custodies and loyal astartes

What? Like a broom?

That's a mental image that's going to stick with me.

yep, although more like a wave but a broom works

 Melissia wrote:


Somehow, he seems to still be producing blood, however? As BA never seem to run out of minute portions of his blood. But that might be warp shenanigans.

Orly? I was under the impression that the blood used in the rites was merely the priests refilling the grails with their own (which is watered down Sangy blood.) I know I recently read that the jewel on Dante's mask is filled with "the last pure blood" from Sangy.

 niv-mizzet wrote:

 Melissia wrote:


Somehow, he seems to still be producing blood, however? As BA never seem to run out of minute portions of his blood. But that might be warp shenanigans.

Orly? I was under the impression that the blood used in the rites was merely the priests refilling the grails with their own (which is watered down Sangy blood.) I know I recently read that the jewel on Dante's mask is filled with "the last pure blood" from Sangy.

The lore's a bit contrdictory then.

Sangy wasnt obliterated though. People are getting bits confused with Horus.
He was strangled to death. Its even a vision in one of the heresy books.
Lets just say that most versions of Kings story on the net have been edited. Or are missing half the story.

Sangunius is dead because people die when they are killed.
He's definitely coming back though, that's been inevitable since Guilliman woke up, at the very least the big four will get their primarchs. The big questions are how and what, how is he going to do it and what is he going to be?

I'm betting on Sangunius being more akin to a Ghost or Daemon like the Legion of the Damned or Sanguinor rather than walking about as flesh and blood again.

Horus was chaos powered at this point. 'Nuff said.

I think after the stuff that I as going on in ruinstorm sanguinius’ return will be Sanguinor related. I think the blood angels will still have the the black rage and the red thirst though as sanguinius still died at the hands of Horus. As much as I like the current Sanguinor model I would love to see a bigger more imposing model if the above were to become true

Haskear wrote:
I think after the stuff that I as going on in ruinstorm sanguinius’ return will be Sanguinor related. I think the blood angels will still have the the black rage and the red thirst though as sanguinius still died at the hands of Horus. As much as I like the current Sanguinor model I would love to see a bigger more imposing model if the above were to become true

Yeah, I was pretty firmly in the camp of Sanguinius will never come back until Ruinstorm was released. They pretty much docked the door off the frame on him eventually being resurrected through the Sanguinor with that novel.

Haskear wrote:
I think after the stuff that I as going on in ruinstorm sanguinius’ return will be Sanguinor related. I think the blood angels will still have the the black rage and the red thirst though as sanguinius still died at the hands of Horus. As much as I like the current Sanguinor model I would love to see a bigger more imposing model if the above were to become true

I agree, but I also think we damn well better get a new model for Dante. He was named Warden of the entire Dark Imperium dammit, he needs new bling!

 Orblivion wrote:

Haskear wrote:
I think after the stuff that I as going on in ruinstorm sanguinius’ return will be Sanguinor related. I think the blood angels will still have the the black rage and the red thirst though as sanguinius still died at the hands of Horus. As much as I like the current Sanguinor model I would love to see a bigger more imposing model if the above were to become true

I agree, but I also think we damn well better get a new model for Dante. He was named Warden of the entire Dark Imperium dammit, he needs new bling!

KING OF THE NORTH, KING OF THE NORTH, KING OF THE NORTH!

 Orblivion wrote:

Haskear wrote:
I think after the stuff that I as going on in ruinstorm sanguinius’ return will be Sanguinor related. I think the blood angels will still have the the black rage and the red thirst though as sanguinius still died at the hands of Horus. As much as I like the current Sanguinor model I would love to see a bigger more imposing model if the above were to become true

I agree, but I also think we damn well better get a new model for Dante. He was named Warden of the entire Dark Imperium dammit, he needs new bling!

I concur, not to mention many of the othe special charectors! Although I recently had quite a lot of fun making a Dante from a stormcaste external

Heh, that would be cool. IF there is any one primarch I might get it'd be Sanguinius. Still probably not, but...

 Melissia wrote:
Heh, that would be cool. IF there is any one primarch I might get it'd be Sanguinius. Still probably not, but...

Agreed, I would actually consider Sanguinius. Although I would probably convert him using the Space Marine from Inquisitor, as I get the feeling he would have a face and size about as stupid as Bobby G's.

Sanguinius is the Ultra Jesus of 40k, but the thing with Christ is that he’s supposed to come back at Judgement Day to save the faithful. It’s kinda the whole deal with Christianity. If anyone’s supposed to come back it would be him.

 Badablack wrote:
Sanguinius is the Ultra Jesus of 40k, but the thing with Christ is that he’s supposed to come back at Judgement Day to save the faithful. It’s kinda the whole deal with Christianity. If anyone’s supposed to come back it would be him.

Hah. Ultra Jesus. Yeah, that makes sense.

If sanguinius returns it will be as a warp ghost, basically a daemon primarch of the emperor. Can’t see GW bringing him back as a flesh and blood primarch.

There’s a scene in Devastation of Baal that lend credence to his ghost still existing but it’s far from conclusive.

I did read somewhere that when the novels cover the siege of earth and deaths of Horus, Sanguinius and the Emperor they plan to change things around from the old stories.

I'm in the camp that the Sanguinor IS Sanguinius, or rather what is left of him. He's already been back, albeit in a reduced form.

Also worth mentioning bird boy got hit with a mace, not just anymace, not even a relic xeno weapon, this mother got hit by a mace that was empowered by the God's of chaos, and being swung by a dude empowered by all 4 chaos god. This was a mace that was able yo mortally wound the emperor because it not only wounded flesh but soul as well. Bird boy got literally smacked by the nerf bat, he took THE 'ban hammer' to the chest. Ain't no coming back from that.

I could see GW doing a sanginor(spelling?) Thing where his essence comes back in a new vessel, but as for the primarch himself, no he is toasted.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Also worth mentioning bird boy got hit with a mace, not just anymace, not even a relic xeno weapon, this mother got hit by a mace that was empowered by the God's of chaos, and being swung by a dude empowered by all 4 chaos god. This was a mace that was able yo mortally wound the emperor because it not only wounded flesh but soul as well. Bird boy got literally smacked by the nerf bat, he took THE 'ban hammer' to the chest. Ain't no coming back from that.

I could see GW doing a sanginor(spelling?) Thing where his essence comes back in a new vessel, but as for the primarch himself, no he is toasted.

Sanguinius was killed with the Talon of Horus, not Worldbreaker.