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pm713 wrote:
Tomb Kings almost certainly aren't coming back. Left in a world long abandoned....

One of the early audio dramas actually had chariot riding undead with "garb of a long forgotten nation".

 Kanluwen wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Tomb Kings almost certainly aren't coming back. Left in a world long abandoned....

One of the early audio dramas actually had chariot riding undead with "garb of a long forgotten nation".

Damn. Talk about salt in the wound. I have more chance of finally getting Rune Golems than Tomb Kings returning.

I am sure tomb kings will come back in a way, as soon as they figure out how to make them not look like undead egypt.

Yeah I think there will be a form of tomb kings return. They just won't be egyptian khemri guys.

pm713 wrote:
Tomb Kings almost certainly aren't coming back. Left in a world long abandoned....

Incorrect. Quite, quite incorrect.

After all, Neferata rules over New-Lahmia (I will not use the official spelling, because that spelling of the word 'new' is cretinous. So there. Nyeah). And that is very much in the Khemrian style she so covets.

heh I read that last night in the undying king. Nulamhia. I chuckled for a moment.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Tomb Kings almost certainly aren't coming back. Left in a world long abandoned....

Incorrect. Quite, quite incorrect.

After all, Neferata rules over New-Lahmia (I will not use the official spelling, because that spelling of the word 'new' is cretinous. So there. Nyeah). And that is very much in the Khemrian style she so covets.

Show me one thing that indicates Tomb Kings are coming back. Not a vampire. There are no Tomb King models left because they all got removed as did large parts of their entire motivation.

As an aside can anyone tell me where Settra ended up? Or was he one of the many characters treated abysmally in the Fail Times.

There have been many references in the fluff to an undead kingdom with the old Tomb Kings aesthetic., pm713.

 EnTyme wrote:
There have been many references in the fluff to an undead kingdom with the old Tomb Kings aesthetic., pm713.

And how many of them talk about Nehekhara? Or any Tomb King? Or the Mortuary Cult? Or the fall of mankinds first kingdom that rose and fell before Sigmar breathed?

And nothing really contradicts the giant sign that Tomb Kings are gone forever that was GW removing EVERYTHING. If they were getting anything they would have some models left but no. Nothing.

I think it would be wise to just wait and see. The stories that they've put up have had reference to an ancient undead kingdom. It won't be "tomb kings" but there's certainly chariot riding ancient dead, and in the undying king they released ancient kings that broke the laws of Nagash.

There's definitely a stage being set for something. Of course nothing will say they come from the world they blew up because that world is gone, but that doesn't mean Settra or an incarnation of him won't be returning.

Which is at best nothing and at absolute worst a mockery depending on how cynical you want to be really.

If you're expecting them to bring back a WHFB faction in its entirety in terms of names and aesthetics sure, but its been two and a half years now and for most of us that ship has sailed then.

A warspinx also appeared in an AoS book I believe. Not sure which one.

With the fact we have seen GW release new models over the past year, I don't think it's unreasonable to think we might have some sort of TK release. Maybe its a reboot of the TK that is minus that Egyptian twist. Hell it could be something totally unrelated to TK, but from everything I have seen we still have one faction unaccounted for.

Do we have any idea when this will be revealed? Are we talking months? years?

 auticus wrote:
If you're expecting them to bring back a WHFB faction in its entirety in terms of names and aesthetics sure, but its been two and a half years now and for most of us that ship has sailed then.

I expect nothing. GW will make their new factions that might be stupid rubbish or really cool. Cool stuff from before is gone.

AverageBoss wrote:
A warspinx also appeared in an AoS book I believe. Not sure which one.

I wouldn't take that to mean anything. In one of the AOS novels, a Tzeentch sorcerer uses Purple Sun:

A circle of blackness expanded from the sorcerer, slaying every thing that it touched. Chaos warrior and Stormcast Eternal collapsed as the fortress discharged curling arcs of night-purple doom.

But that spell isn't going to come back

AverageBoss wrote:
A warspinx also appeared in an AoS book I believe. Not sure which one.

It was a Necrosphinx sir! For shame...


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Wayniac wrote:

AverageBoss wrote:
A warspinx also appeared in an AoS book I believe. Not sure which one.

I wouldn't take that to mean anything. In one of the AOS novels, a Tzeentch sorcerer uses Purple Sun:

A circle of blackness expanded from the sorcerer, slaying every thing that it touched. Chaos warrior and Stormcast Eternal collapsed as the fortress discharged curling arcs of night-purple doom.

But that spell isn't going to come back

A spell really isn't analogous to a very distinct centerpiece model. And that's aside from how many old spells have come back.

 Karthicus wrote:
With the fact we have seen GW release new models over the past year, I don't think it's unreasonable to think we might have some sort of TK release. Maybe its a reboot of the TK that is minus that Egyptian twist. Hell it could be something totally unrelated to TK, but from everything I have seen we still have one faction unaccounted for.

I'm still hoping for some form of Nulahmian Soulblight elite army: vampires with Neferata/Arkhan/Tomb King-style armor, and huge, two-handed Khopesh for weapons.

It would be cool to see Nulahmian 2 wound soulblight infantry from Nulahmia, the freshly turned vampires of Nulahmia, basic infantry for the Nulahmian faction which hails from Nulahmia.

Nuuuuuuuuulahmia.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It would be cool to see Nulahmian 2 wound soulblight infantry from Nulahmia, the freshly turned vampires of Nulahmia, basic infantry for the Nulahmian faction which hails from Nulahmia.

Nuuuuuuuuulahmia.

You really hate that name, don't you?

But some form of vampiric elite army is something I wouldn't mind, especially if they look Arkhan/Nagash/Neferata-y, rather than Mannfred-y.

Well, shortly after Norsca was introduced into Total War: Warhammer 1, people started asking about them in AoS, and we ended up with the Darkoath Warqueen, who really fits the old Norscan aesthetic. Next Tuesday, Tomb Kings are hitting TW: W 2, so if they're just as popular, maybe there's hope?

 Mangod wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It would be cool to see Nulahmian 2 wound soulblight infantry from Nulahmia, the freshly turned vampires of Nulahmia, basic infantry for the Nulahmian faction which hails from Nulahmia.

Nuuuuuuuuulahmia.

You really hate that name, don't you?

But some form of vampiric elite army is something I wouldn't mind, especially if they look Arkhan/Nagash/Neferata-y, rather than Mannfred-y.

I don't mind it, but I take perverse joy from pestering people who do. One of my guilty pleasures >.>

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Mangod wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It would be cool to see Nulahmian 2 wound soulblight infantry from Nulahmia, the freshly turned vampires of Nulahmia, basic infantry for the Nulahmian faction which hails from Nulahmia.

Nuuuuuuuuulahmia.

You really hate that name, don't you?

But some form of vampiric elite army is something I wouldn't mind, especially if they look Arkhan/Nagash/Neferata-y, rather than Mannfred-y.

I don't mind it, but I take perverse joy from pestering people who do. One of my guilty pleasures >.>

Well the name of Mannfred's new place is Carstinia, he is trying to make a new sylvania.

I personally love the fact that they are returning necropolis cities... Nulahmia is a bit of a silly name, but it's not the end of the world. If Neferata was trying to remake Lahmia, I would have just called it that... Lahmia

Although that might have upset some of the neckbeards who are still hanging on to the old world harder than Sigmar was when it was being catapulted through the void...

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Mangod wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
It would be cool to see Nulahmian 2 wound soulblight infantry from Nulahmia, the freshly turned vampires of Nulahmia, basic infantry for the Nulahmian faction which hails from Nulahmia.

Nuuuuuuuuulahmia.

You really hate that name, don't you?

But some form of vampiric elite army is something I wouldn't mind, especially if they look Arkhan/Nagash/Neferata-y, rather than Mannfred-y.

I don't mind it, but I take perverse joy from pestering people who do. One of my guilty pleasures >.>

Well the name of Mannfred's new place is Carstinia, he is trying to make a new sylvania.

I still don't get why Mannfred isn't dead or in a cage considering all his backstabbing.

It amuses Nagash. After all, no matter what Mannfred does, he's no threat to Nagash.

And it keeps the rest of his underlings on their toes.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It amuses Nagash. After all, no matter what Mannfred does, he's no threat to Nagash.

And it keeps the rest of his underlings on their toes.

Pretty much, As phil kelly said Neferata and Mannfred have their own ideas about things but when Nagash asks them to jump they respond with "how high?"

Also Mannfred acts like a rival to Arkhan, Mannfred's presence actually gets Arkhan to do stuff according to Josh Reynolds. Think of it from Arkhan's perspective you are the most loyal yet your master is turning to Mannfred for the odd jobs which would be infuriating to someone like Arkhan. Also Mannfred is Nagash's champion, Nagash essentially uses Mannfred to go all dracula on people or places he doesn't like.

Honestly I think all those jobs could be done by someone less backstabby but it's not a very interesting story to go "Mannfred is dead forever and does nothing ever". Especially if you like him.


I shouldn't criticise that too much anyway, my writing is hardly free of illogical things.

Difference being, Arkhan knows Mannfred is capable of actually getting them done, thus is a threat to his own position...

Mannfred is not the only skilled necromancer I'm sure.