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**Adeptus Doritos**

Elbows wrote:
Adeptus, you missed one...the brand new guy who wants to throw down a 2500 point game with hastily glued minis. Baby steps people...baby steps.

A lot of times, I attribute this to 'peer pressure'- one of his buddies is well-experienced in the game (sort of), the guy had money to blow, a shopping spree was involved, and the guy has been made to feel like he 'NEEDS' all these models to play the game.

I have a guy I'm working with now that had this EXACT same thing happen. Poor dude shows up with brand new high-dollar cases, with a bunch of new Imperial Guard models that haven't even had primer touch them. I think this guy has one or two of literally everything available, no idea how to use it... most of it is either 'useless without more like it' or 'not necessary in the overwhelming majority of games'. Poor guy had TWO infantry squads. TWO! And just enough for two, and we had to hastily assemble some voxcasters for him and do a lot of 'fixing'. Fortunately, I've hooked him up with a lot of my unpainted Scions for now.

And the worst part is that he's underwhelmed with everything but the tanks, and he thinks they look silly. He asked me if it would be easy to sell it. Heartbreaking.

Oh, the punchline that makes me furious? The guy that 'helped' him hasn't played 40k since like 5th edition.

So, note to players- when you find a new guy with cash to burn and a real interest in the game, start him small.

EDIT:

Also, the absolute worst players are the ones that try to tell other players what to buy and play. STOP THIS.

I see 40k armies the way I see a gun, a motorcycle, a car, or something like that. Sure, make an informed decision and listen to other peoples' thoughts on it. But at the end of the day, the one you want is the one you should get. If you buy something that someone else says you 'should get' or 'need' and you're not enthusiastic about it? You're gonna end up trying to sell it later, and feel kind of sour and cheated.

**SirWeeble**

Flamephoenix182 wrote:
SirWeeble wrote:
Man, other players can be really annoying. Most are in fact.

-When other people obviously stand really far away from you and refuse to shake your hand after a game.

-When you ask people if they're up for games, but say "oh im only here for like 5 minutes" then play a game with someone else.

-When people criticize your models and say things like "it looks like you just stuck old gum to cardboard". Especially when it's obviously painted clay on cardboard.

Those first two sound like the things people do at the club to the dude with poor hygiene but they are too polite to say anything.

That was kind of the joke - i was playing like a clueless unwashed wierdo accusing other people of being annoying. I don't actually walk around unwashed and try to play 40k with self-made clay figures on cardboard.

**Slayer-Fan123**

I like declaring that I'm activating Pot Of Greed, which lets me draw two cards from the top of my deck.

**ClockworkZion**

I don't have a long list of the ones I find "annoying" and to be honest I spend most of my time concerned I might be someone else's "annoying person", but everyone likes some good venting so why not indulge a little?

I've yet to see anyone say "the smelly guy" didn't bother them too much, and since he's basically a list staple I should explain my issue with these people. See, my sense of smell is basically mostly dead. Most of the time I don't smell a darn thing and when I do it's usually a surprise. But when it comes to BO it's never like I manage to catch the slightest wisp of the sour tang on someone's caked on sweat, but a full on brick to the face. It hits hard and always catches me off guard every time. It's such a problem among the local MtG players that I don't even visit my FLGS on Fridays to avoid this sensory brick to the face.

Let me put it this way: if I can smell you, we don't need to get you some soap, we need to get you some promethium.

Less of a staple are the bad winners. I mean, sure, everyone hates TFG, but I don't mean the TFG of the store who gloats about his net list that tabled the new guy who is still trying to learn the game, but rather people who constantly gripe and complain while they win. The worst I ran across was someone who was just shy of tabling me in a game and spent the entire time complaining that he was about to get his butt kicked. Look, I get not getting complacent and sloppy in your play and maybe that helps, but don't talk about how your opponent who is losing by a mile is about to table you.,

Last up, I'm going to say unpainted models. Look, not everyone has to be the person who spends months making everything look Golden Daemon ready, but some basic effort would be nice. Looking at seas of black primer or grey plastic isn't just boring but it makes the game actively harder to play. Now I need to circle around the table or ask you who is packing what so I can make target priority choices because I can't tell what weapons are mixed into that blob of guys. It only gets worse when it's an all proxy army of grey plastic that someone has been playing for years but refuses to even try painting because they can't stand the effort.

**Eonfuzz**

Cheaters I can deal with, I've dealt with their kind before and calling it out while it goes on is the best feelings.
TFG I can put up with, it just means the match is going to be a challenge and a few rules questions are going to come up.
Book Lawyers are fine - they're passionate about the game - and FLGS owners are there to fix arguments.
That one smelly guy cares more about the tabletop than his stench, and it can very well be a health problem.

For me the 'most annoying player' is the one that has no vested interest in the game. Looking at their phone, not following turns and constantly being prompted to roll armour saves because they're too busy looking at 'dank memes'.

**ingtaer**

Eonfuzz wrote:
For me the 'most annoying player' is the one that has no vested interest in the game. Looking at their phone, not following turns and constantly being prompted to roll armour saves because they're too busy looking at 'dank memes'.

This, I was playing someone in x-wing regionals and they spent the entire game watching the people playing next to us. After he got soundly trashed he commented that his list was underpowered... no mate, you payed zero attention to what you were doing. One of my regular opponents also spends all the time on his phone/tablet and complains that games are too long and this really irritates me.

**Coolyo294**

People who don't have lists ready when they come in to the store. On Warhammer sundays we almost always play 1,500 or 2,000 point games, yet every goddamn time my opponent doesn't have a list ready to go and i have to sit there for a half hour/forty five minutes while he picks through his case looking at what he brought and making a list. How hard is it to just have a couple lists ready to go when you walk in so you don't waste my time?

**Vasarto**

I haven't played since 5th edition and have no real plans to play ever again really. I just like to do painting and modeling and stuff. BUT, once during the last ard boys tournaments, I was playing my orks against an eldar player and he was a real Rules Lawyer, and counted, pointed at me and made sure I was looking at his fingures each time he counted something which was always him counting in "french". Every single time I did something that involved special rules, like adding Ghazghkull Thraka to Snikrots party outside of combat and sneaking him on the backboard, he would stop the game and ask the judge for rule clarification and even fought some of the rulings several times.

I swear, getting rid of the snikrot independant character cheat was the worst mistake for Orks and I will never play the game again until they allow him to bring independent characters with him again. It basically permanently ruined the game for me since all I like to play is orks, and my army is heavy commandos which is what made the game super fun for me. But I digress.....A rules lawyer who stops the game several times and makes sure you are actively looking at his fingers as he counts out in front of your face with his fingers, counting in french each time he counts something....and I mean ANYTHING...ever....since...thing.

**IronBrand**

Eonfuzz wrote:
For me the 'most annoying player' is the one that has no vested interest in the game. Looking at their phone, not following turns and constantly being prompted to roll armour saves because they're too busy looking at 'dank memes'.

Even worse than the ones constantly looking at memes are the ones constantly loudly quoting memes.

**Avor**

I use to have a book of cheating, pictures to show how poeple steal inches and cheat the dice. Simple things like how assulalt marines spread out while on the move. then messsure only the most forward man then without messuring for the rest of the squiad he pushs them all into contact. Or when people pick the die after rolling. Many people will simply grab the that hit and roll them. But people pick up fast and do it behind terrain. But you should pick out the nissed rolll so his opponent see your not trying to pull a fast one.

Then people got annoyed by me, trying to make them show where in the book and page where they get their crazy killer army explaned. It's how I learned deep strike, from somebody useing on me. But they hate it when I want to see in a book so I sure bout the rule. If I have to use it later or have to share it.

Only two people had this problem, I do the math as I play, telling them exactly as I do it. Saying suff like "Bolter, strenghth strength four agaisnt your toughness three, I need threes to wound." I do it to keep track of what I'm and telling my oppenent what Im doing, just some realy just don;t want hear it.

**wuestenfux**

One of the worst opponents here is a German ETC guy.
He always packs his dice after the rolls back into the tray, and so so plays very slowly.

**jeff white**

Gitdakka wrote:
In a 2v2 me and my friend faced 2 brothers who argued loudly with eachother throughout the match (and the entire tournament). We had heard them all matches and and we prayed we would not have to face them. The Gods did not grant our wish.

The game was one sided in their favour, but they also played extremely slowly and every tiny move lead to a rules argument (if we moved) or a family shouting contest (if it was their move). The match was a waste of time

Sounds like what would happen if my wife got into 40k.

When I was more into gaming, actually playing, and had.made time for it with friends, or "friends" as it were, there as one guy who I often played with, and (especially) when we would start a new system, I would see how my army was able to exploit rules in certain ways to soundly and reliably squish his chosen faction, so I would offer house rules adjustments or reinterpret the rules as written in a way that would hobble my side in those ways in which it may have been overpowered, then after agreeing on the adjustment, and playing with it for some time, as his faction was able to exploit rules in ways that benefitted his side exclusively, with the release and or purchase of new units and so on, he would both never offer reinterpretations of rules as written in order to restore some strategic balance, and would also not allow us to return to original rules interpretations that would restore my faction's strengths in a way that made the game fun for me anymore. Dude ended up in law school, go figure. Bet he made a mint and lives with a grand reputation for being a total lawyer. I don't begrudge him whatever success he found in the real world, but my faith in reason ruling ostensibly reasonable men has yet to be restored, and I have less than zero interest in ever speaking with him or with anyone like him again. Paint brushes are far better company.

**some bloke**

Sloppy movers. I don't know whether they are trying to cheat, or just think that moving is an annoying middle-man to shooting and assault, but when people move their models an extra half inch, practically throwing them in the direction of the tape measure to gain some distance, It bugs me.

I especially get annoyed when this happens in x-wing, when people don't hold their templates down whilst they move and they knock it picking the model up, then knock it again putting the model down - that's why we have precise movement templates. for. precise. movement.

I also hate when people roll dice on uneven surfaces and pick up cocked dice when it suits them, but re-roll them if it doesn't. and then they keep rolling on the same uneven surface, even though there's a flat bit right there that they can roll on.

**SHUPPET**

I had a pick up game this week with a guy, got there and his table about 15" wide 80" long... its in a messy ass storage room the size of my bathroom with almost no room to stand... gak-all terrain on the table, just 2 pieces of low foam that served only to speedbump me and literally nothing else... I should have turned around there and then but didn't want to be rude, figured feth it should be a good challenge, lets roll some dice, the guy lives around the corner from me, maybe this is all he's got to work with let's try make this work. He'd already set up his side of the board including a fortification, so i just rolled with it

he insisted we set up 12" off the board.... there's like a 50" no man's land between us (I know because my Tyrannofex Rupture Cannon couldn't hit his Knight standing each on the DZ line).. I brought some gribblies and I'm like dude I don't even think I can fit my army on this narrow ass table lol... he responds, "then you have to reserve or lose anything you can't fit on the board"...

i didn't think i'd need to bring my rulebook, turns out he doesn't have one, so no objectives, he's like "its fine lets just kill each other". Okay, I'm like well, vs pure Knights i may as well just leave my Rippers in the bag lol, he agrees. internal sigh, I get to playing. No idea why I didn't walk out right there, but I thought I'd give this guy a shot.

we get to playing, he's doing shady gak with the rules, speed-mumbling a response to every question I ask, I know he's getting rules wrong I try point out mistakes he's making and can't even understand this guys responses, but it's clear he disagrees, and everytime I try pull up the rules he's really impatient... at this point I'm like feth it, I just want to get out of here, so I don't push the point...

a couple of turns in and I'm somehow winning against this abysmal player even with all this bs, as he sat in his deployment zone with 70" range gunning at stuff as it advanced. I've killed an Armiger, nearly finished a Crusader, and have wounds on a Castellen... he kills my warlord flyrant, declares STW, and starts tallying up his killpoints so far. I'm like... dude, I thought we were just killing things? You want to play kill points when you have 5 units and I have 20? How is that even a match? He responds "most armies have trouble with it mate"

I sigh again, this time externally, he decides to call "lunch break"... I use this break as an excuse that my time is running real low I'm gonna have to call it... it's not very believable and i didn't really sell the lie at all, but this guy has zero social awareness at all so I doubt he realised, he was zero'd in on the match anyway.

I had graciously conceded the match, I start packing up, he starts asking me how many games I've played so far in 8th, how many I won, I politely start tallying them up for him and give a rough estimate of my amount of wins as I pack, he sharply interjects "well you didn't win this one". At this point I'm just astonished, though I keep a poker face, and politely thank him for the game, while he's trying to add together the points of units he's killed for god knows what reason, I smile and wish him a great day and make my escape.

In hindsight I should have been a little sharper, but it was meant to be a friendly match and this guy was young, I didn't want to be too rough, but it's whatever. One of the worst experiences I've had with this game, but taught me a lesson in organizing and verifying certain things a bit better.

Also, his house had a bloody strong scent of toejam and the room we were in had one locked window and no curtain with the sun beating down. The guy audibly farted near the end of the match too. I was polite as it was his house and his gf was home, but the guy attends my local, I couldn't care less about the game itself as it was a mockery of 40k, but if he starts skiting about it as I suspect he will, I will say exactly what happened and he'll be in for a world of embarrassment, if he even has the social capable of feeling it.

I gotta laugh at the absurdity of it tbh. This guy just ticked every stereotype.

**Avor**

Sloppy movers. I don't know whether they are trying to cheat, or just think that moving is an annoying middle-man to shooting and assault, but when people move their models an extra half inch, practically throwing them in the direction of the tape measure to gain some distance, It bugs me.

People that messure front to back to get that distance of their base, the people that only messurement for the whole squad, and even worse, the fit they throw when you call them on it. They get huffed up and shout that you just making ut up because you lost or that it's a casual game and your just a dick.

**the_scotsman**

Red__Thirst wrote:
Dealing with people who act like giant man babies and just start picking up models when they're losing without even rolling saves for them really grind my gears.

The kind of guy who walks into a game already assuming they're going to lose and just goes through the motions instead of just saying "Nah, I'll find someone else to play" so they're wasting their own time and mine. And on top of that, they act like a petulant, morose little child about how they're doing if the game doesn't go their way. If they're winning, they're going to gloat and say how bad they're 'steamrolling' their opponent. If they're not, they're the most dour person on the planet, to the point of sucking the fun out of the entire room. It's maddening.

So that's mine. I can put up with a lot, but the above behavior will make it so I never speak to you, let alone play with you.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

Sad Eeyore Impression is my absolute least favorite thing to deal with in 40k. If someone is getting salty over a bad roll and is still competitive with the game, it's fine, I totally get it, dice and game balance can be frustrating at times. But ho lee moly do I just hate dealing with the player who fulfills their own prophecy of losing every game by pretty much giving up and not taking half their advantageous rules because "whats the point man, this army is so underpowered now, I don't know why I even bother, 8th ed sux..."

The worst is when the Sad Eeyore comes out even when the player you're up against is actively winning the game. I played one game where I had lost over half my army by turn 3, and I saw an opening to walk my avatar of khaine around a squad of terminators and attack a terminator chaplain that was with them. Before I charged, I used his melta sword (because I'm not just gonna not shoot him...) and he failed his save, I got lucky with damage and oneshotted him. My opponent got so mad that I didn't forgo shooting in a game I was already losing to give his model a chance to fight back. He had a squad of dudes with him, of course I'm going to try and kill him so I can charge the dudes if I succeed...

**techsoldaten**

Have some sympathy for the jerks in the room.

I know people can be annoying. But 40k never really got to be fun for me until I learned to accept other people's faults. They are magnified in a game like 40k, where so much is dependent on knowing your own rules and employing them accurately. In a sense, the game is a test of your ability to be patient.

Here's an example: there was this guy I used to play against who would cheat every game. He had an engaging personality, brought a lot of conversions, and there were many reasons to like him. But he cheated, it was pathological, he could not help himself.

The kinds of things he would do were to palm dice to insert sixes into rolls, he would read rules out of the book that were not actually written and reword them to his advantage, he would distract opponents at a level I haven't seen in any other context (meaning games were long and people would have to leave while he had an advantage.)

Playing against him, I learned how to spot his 'errors' as they happened. We had a 2 year stretch where we played about every other week and the goal was to see who could out-cheat the other. Taught me a lot about slight of hand, distraction, suggestion, and other skills that really have no place in the game. But it was a hell of a lot of fun, the only reason we stopped playing was because he moved out West to do acting full time.

TBH, the people who annoy me the most are rules nazis. 8th edition has really streamlined the rules to the point where there are fewer in-game debates, but they still happen. I can't stand when someone pulls out a rulebook and make an esoteric argument on an interpretation of the rules that's based on ambiguous wording.

**Process**

This thread is.... interesting. I must admit, ive only been in the hobby since the last few months of 7th and a lot of the stereotypes are quite true.

- The unsolicited list building advice- seriously? Im using a pretty well painted mainly primaris with some dreadnoughts imperial fists army.... Do you think im looking to win the LVO? its quite obvious that "optimised listing" isnt what im in the hobby for.

- The "ultra sure" guy- im standing there with the book open and tell the guy he only draws 5 cards "NO! thats not this mission", im literally reading it mate, "NO, thats another mission", seriously bud take a look- proceeds to then scroll up the page on the tablet to check I could read the mission title.... Now im gonna give the guy the benefit of the doubt- when it came to adding up how many shots i got from 5D6 i counted wrong TWICE but still.... i can read.

- The "this is his thing" guy- He's been doing 40k for longer than you, has more armies than you, read the rulebook front to back and side to side, has a Deldar army that "nobody wants to face" and for some reason cant hide his utter disdain for you because you corrected a rule mistake he made and then proceeded to get really aggressive over. Its toy soldiers, its chillout time and more importantly- its my hobby aswell.

Im not gonna lie, im probably an annoying guy aswell, i sometimes struggle to contain my raging saltiness stemming from just how ineffective the marine codex is- I do find myself internally pissed when the guy running a tournament optimised custodes list tries to up-play his win with a "nah the primaris are really good", "those hellblasters nearly had me there... if it wasnt for my 3+ invuns"...... maybe i should start netlisting haha

**Excommunicatus**

I played a game once with a guy who would give his models orders. As in, he'd vocalize pretending to be a commander giving actual orders to actual troops. He even made fake vox-static noises. I thought it was funny at first but he kept it up for six turns, for every single action his models took.

**roflmajog**

The people I find most annoying are the people who can't pay attention to the game. One of my regular opponents is fine in his own turn but when it gets to my movement phase he starts talking to the people at the next table and I have to try and get his attention every time I want to make an advance roll or something (and I play eldar so advance quite a lot of my units every turn because I don't take penalties).

In the other phases if I stop rolling for like 5 seconds to think he starts talking to them again. He makes my turns take a lot longer than they need to and then complains that I'm taking too long.

After all of this he still takes longer than I do for his turns because he plays horde armies.

**Excommunicatus**

Oh, and there was the guy who tabled me turn three then spent half an hour complaining that I had cheated with my list composition because he'd never seen a list like it at a tournament before, therefore I was "trying to trick him".

I had told him the week before what my list was, in general terms, and showed him my army list after to prove it was legal, but it didn't matter. I had cheated by bringing "a deliberately underpowered list".

Although, I guess he was just baffling rather than annoying.

**bullyboy**

I'm very fortunate to be in a good group for my 40K games so have no issues, but have played tournaments with FOW where you meet the guys listed here. They really are the minority though, so I can't complain, and have met soem amazing dudes while travelling.

I do swing by the local GW frequently but I'd never play the majority of players there. It basically looks like zero fun.......have not seen a fully painted army once, not once. It's always the new net list and the guys don't even look like they're enjoying themselves. Granted, I'm not going to tell people how to have fun, it's your game...enjoy it the way you want to. If ultracompetitive is your thing, cool, and I may be missing the pre-game talk "hey, I want to try this list out for LVO, so it's not painted yet". It's just not my thing. I'm a guy that will play all Ravenwing and not take scouts for CPs, or have tactical squads in my forces. My Eldar is not Alaitoc and has zero dark reapers and shining spears, so yeah, I'm not coming at you with the big hitters.

**Xenomancers**

SHUPPET wrote:
I had a pick up game this week with a guy, got there and his table about 15" wide 80" long... its in a messy ass storage room the size of my bathroom with almost no room to stand... gak-all terrain on the table, just 2 pieces of low foam that served only to speedbump me and literally nothing else... I should have turned around there and then but didn't want to be rude, figured feth it should be a good challenge, lets roll some dice, the guy lives around the corner from me, maybe this is all he's got to work with let's try make this work. He'd already set up his side of the board including a fortification, so i just rolled with it

he insisted we set up 12" off the board.... there's like a 50" no man's land between us (I know because my Tyrannofex Rupture Cannon couldn't hit his Knight standing each on the DZ line).. I brought some gribblies and I'm like dude I don't even think I can fit my army on this narrow ass table lol... he responds, "then you have to reserve or lose anything you can't fit on the board"...

i didn't think i'd need to bring my rulebook, turns out he doesn't have one, so no objectives, he's like "its fine lets just kill each other". Okay, I'm like well, vs pure Knights i may as well just leave my Rippers in the bag lol, he agrees. internal sigh, I get to playing. No idea why I didn't walk out right there, but I thought I'd give this guy a shot.

we get to playing, he's doing shady gak with the rules, speed-mumbling a response to every question I ask, I know he's getting rules wrong I try point out mistakes he's making and can't even understand this guys responses, but it's clear he disagrees, and everytime I try pull up the rules he's really impatient... at this point I'm like feth it, I just want to get out of here, so I don't push the point...

a couple of turns in and I'm somehow winning against this abysmal player even with all this bs, as he sat in his deployment zone with 70" range gunning at stuff as it advanced. I've killed an Armiger, nearly finished a Crusader, and have wounds on a Castellen... he kills my warlord flyrant, declares STW, and starts tallying up his killpoints so far. I'm like... dude, I thought we were just killing things? You want to play kill points when you have 5 units and I have 20? How is that even a match? He responds "most armies have trouble with it mate"

I sigh again, this time externally, he decides to call "lunch break"... I use this break as an excuse that my time is running real low I'm gonna have to call it... it's not very believable and i didn't really sell the lie at all, but this guy has zero social awareness at all so I doubt he realised, he was zero'd in on the match anyway.

I had graciously conceded the match, I start packing up, he starts asking me how many games I've played so far in 8th, how many I won, I politely start tallying them up for him and give a rough estimate of my amount of wins as I pack, he sharply interjects "well you didn't win this one". At this point I'm just astonished, though I keep a poker face, and politely thank him for the game, while he's trying to add together the points of units he's killed for god knows what reason, I smile and wish him a great day and make my escape.

In hindsight I should have been a little sharper, but it was meant to be a friendly match and this guy was young, I didn't want to be too rough, but it's whatever. One of the worst experiences I've had with this game, but taught me a lesson in organizing and verifying certain things a bit better.

Also, his house had a bloody strong scent of toejam and the room we were in had one locked window and no curtain with the sun beating down. The guy audibly farted near the end of the match too. I was polite as it was his house and his gf was home, but the guy attends my local, I couldn't care less about the game itself as it was a mockery of 40k, but if he starts skiting about it as I suspect he will, I will say exactly what happened and he'll be in for a world of embarrassment, if he even has the social capable of feeling it.

I gotta laugh at the absurdity of it tbh. This guy just ticked every stereotype.

Holy crap man. That is one of the worst ones I've ever heard. At 15" wide table? HAHA.

**DominayTrix**

Excommunicatus wrote:
I played a game once with a guy who would give his models orders. As in, he'd vocalize pretending to be a commander giving actual orders to actual troops. He even made fake vox-static noises. I thought it was funny at first but he kept it up for six turns, for every single action his models took.

O man this. I understand roleplaying/banter can be fun and adds an extra level to the game, but I cannot stand excessively loud roleplaying. Things like saying "emperor protects " whenever you roll armor saves or praising the emperor when you beat math is awesome. Smacktalk like telling me you are going to throw some fish on the grill when your hellhound is in range of my firewarriors makes the game so much more interesting. However, this is all ruined when it is screamed instead of spoken or spammed constantly.

**ClockworkZion**

Excommunicatus wrote:
I played a game once with a guy who would give his models orders. As in, he'd vocalize pretending to be a commander giving actual orders to actual troops. He even made fake vox-static noises. I thought it was funny at first but he kept it up for six turns, for every single action his models took.

Sounds like he could be a good GM for Dark Heresy or Only War.

**Xenomancers**

Probably the most annoying game I ever played was at a tournament in 4th eddition.

Was playing against a necron army that set up in the middle of the board with something like 30 warriors stacked on top of each other and a Ctan Nightbringinger flanking up the side with scarabs. I was running a really fluffy crimson fist army with 3 dreads and Kantor with some marines.

My only chance was my orbitial bombardment. So I dropped it turn 1 and got a perfect hit on the huge stacked structure. By the rules at that time it should hit every model underneath the template (which woulda been like 25ish warriors). He's trying to argue that it only hits the guys it can see which was like 2. I couldn't find a judge so I agreed to a roll off - lost it ofc.

Then somehow I am in combat with scarabs turn 1 with my dread...with scarabs....This should have been impossible but I was basically so pissed about the orbital I didn't care anymore.

**ValentineGames**

champagne_socialist wrote:
Hi all,
What has annoyed you most about players you have played against?

I think having my models thrown against the wall by a hyper competitive tournament player who proudly bragged always coming top 3 for 6 years was annoying.
Just because I beat him with an EXTREMELY casual guard list taking no more than 10 casualties...twice...

**Jidmah**

Vasarto wrote:
I haven't played since 5th edition and have no real plans to play ever again really. I just like to do painting and modeling and stuff. BUT, once during the last ard boys tournaments, I was playing my orks against an eldar player and he was a real Rules Lawyer, and counted, pointed at me and made sure I was looking at his fingures each time he counted something which was always him counting in "french". Every single time I did something that involved special rules, like adding Ghazghkull Thraka to Snikrots party outside of combat and sneaking him on the backboard, he would stop the game and ask the judge for rule clarification and even fought some of the rulings several times.

I swear, getting rid of the snikrot independant character cheat was the worst mistake for Orks and I will never play the game again until they allow him to bring independent characters with him again. It basically permanently ruined the game for me since all I like to play is orks, and my army is heavy commandos which is what made the game super fun for me. But I digress.....A rules lawyer who stops the game several times and makes sure you are actively looking at his fingers as he counts out in front of your face with his fingers, counting in french each time he counts something....and I mean ANYTHING...ever....since...thing.

You do realize that that Thrakka+Snikrotthing was mostly a rules glitch combined with a weird FAQ answer, right?

Considering the leaked stratagem, you can deep strike kommandoz, snikrot and Thrakka in one place with the new codex, so start dusting off your models!

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some bloke wrote:
Sloppy movers. I don't know whether they are trying to cheat, or just think that moving is an annoying middle-man to shooting and assault, but when people move their models an extra half inch, practically throwing them in the direction of the tape measure to gain some distance, It bugs me.

This one is funny. When playing orks have been asked to both not measure and move everything precisely to speed up and to measure every single model accurately in order to not get an advantage when assaulting... once even in the same game, by the same guy.

In general, for horde units, I measure the first models accurately and just thumb the rest of them. In most cases, it doesn't really matter for those models.

**backlash13**

HuskyWarhammer wrote:
Oh, so many things...
-People who don't know the rules and feel cheated when you follow them (e.g., I had a friend who thought piling in wasn't a real part of melee and became upset). I mean, we all forget or make mistakes, but there's a certain level of base game knowledge that's necessary.

UGH! It's even worse when it is something that penalises them. Had to kindly point out a few times to different people that the wording is "more than 9 inches away", so no your scions cant rapid fire me, or claim the pick the highest damage for melta guns.

**Jidmah**

To add some of my own:

At one store there was one kid (around 10 years old, I was over 20 at that time) which played blood angels during 5th. He was dropped off there by his parents at noon and picked up again when the store closed, so he was there ALL THE TIME. I saw him play some other guy and he was basically playing army men - making noises and declaring that his made-up weapon just shot something his opponent had dead without rolling. So I decided to dodge playing him, and played some other players.
In the middle of one game he started setting up his blood angel terminators and sanguine guard on our table and declared that he would be joining the game. He rolled some shots and then left the table to talk to some of his friends. I picked up his models and sat them on the side of the table so they wouldn't be in the way and wouldn't get damaged by someone accidentally knocking them down or something.

He then returned some time later and asked me with a sad face whether all his marines were dead. I told him yes. He then wanted to know how that happened. I told him that our game was on the a moon without air and that any hit roll of six would cause an air leak and immediately kill the model, while pointing to my shoota boyz. He packed up and then complained to his kid friends how the orks had murdered all his blood angels on the moon and how they wouldn't have stood a chance on Earth.

Another player at the same store was known for playing eldar. He was the local champion at that time and the store rule were that you could add +1 to an attribute of any of your models whenever you won a tournament. Of course, his fikkin' Edrad was nigh invulnerable with 2++ and T8. But that's not the annoying part about him. Whenever he talked, he would do so loudly, you could hear him anywhere in the store - and he talked a lot. You could basically write a battle report of his games without even going into the back room to have a look at his game.