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Arlington, va

Up to the beginning of this month Prodos was previewing plastic Brotherhood and Dark Legion for a Kickstarter, now I am the sads

https://www.facebook.com/WarzoneResurrection/
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Dark Legion Plastics

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Brotherhood Plastics


 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




> I thought that Prodos had already died and gone

Hmm. Were they calling themselves Prodos Games before? After AvP, Jared formed Archon and transferred the staff and assets from Prodos to Archon. For all I know, Prodos Games is an entirely different legal entity from either of the two, and he's playing the company shell game for whatever reason. In any case, a leopard doesn't change its spots, even if it's the head of a different company.

"And while I'm forgiving of one mishap, this string of incidences suggests the problem is with the project managers, not whom they hire, what materials they are using, what language their backers are using, etc. I do notice that entrepreneurs have more self-confidence than other people, and need it to persevere bad luck and obstacles. But this self-confidence can turn into "do nothing wrong" blindness, which prevents these people from admitting mistakes and improving themselves." -- September 3, 2014 
   
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Camouflaged Ariadna Scout




Australia

I'd like to grab some of these, but not having a proper scale for some of the walkers and mechs that I can reference makes it kind of hard to judge how useful these might be. Especially the Cybertronic Eradicator, Mishima Meka and the Imperial Hurricane Walker. I have height measurements for the Hurricane and Eradicator, but none for the Meka. The Meka could be useful as alternative Crisis Suits, but I can't properly judge this.
   
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Man, ripping everything from 40k to The Chronicles of Riddick,lol...they are really full of fresh of new ideas. Though probably lookingfor people to use them as proxy IG/Eldar/Dark Eldar
   
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Camouflaged Ariadna Scout




United Kingdom

Prodos as an entity will still be around, because they - not Archon - have the AvP license and I doubt Fox / Disney will allow them to move the license to Archon.

Warzone's problem was a lack of releases for the last year.. literally nothing new for us to buy, and nothing that was previewed as a 3D print ever went into production. They did manage to make a few unicast event-only models but clearly there just wasn't any money there to produce them in bulk, package them up and ship them out. Thus it was all riding on KS funds to fill in the gaps left by the missing units (e.g. Illian) and maybe create some new models based on rules the team have had waiting in the wings for about a year.

However, Cabinet supposedly gave a green light to the KS then - for reaons I can only speculate on - that green bulb was replaced with a red one and now we are where we are. Money invested in plastic capability won't go to waste, it seems, and that is good for Prodos and their future plans, but it won't help Warzone at all.

We have a window of opportunity of.. unknown length.. to continue to work on the rules and put out some of the profiles we created, but once those models are withdrawn from sale.. damn. Sad times indeed.

   
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And so the mutilated corpse of Warzone is once again interred in the family crypt, right next to Doom Trooper, Kult and Chronopia.

Maybe in five to ten years from now someone competent will do the IP justice with a proper miniature line and actual support.
   
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They released everything they could for warzone. The higher ups didn't want to make anymore for it and wanted to focus on new stuff only for AVP.
The guy who posted the pictures of the sculpts was trying to get them to make more Warzone stuff and was going to get a kickstarter started for the Ilian and Brotherhood update and add a new race but then this happened
   
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Texas

I would have loved some of those plastic Templars. As it stands, I just placed the final orders to finish my brotherhood and Mishima forces. I wonder who will be the next custodian of the title…

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No one, most likely. Who would want to follow up from what Prodos left on the market?
   
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Australia

Miniature Market has just put its remaining stock up for clearance (did it just as I was adding stuff to my cart to compare prices with Prodos' shop), and it's pretty cheap. Get it while they have stuff left!
   
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Been Around the Block





 His Master's Voice wrote:
No one, most likely. Who would want to follow up from what Prodos left on the market?


Its possible Cabinet already had someone knocking on their door for the license leading to the break, its happened before with FFG.

The announcement stated they turned over the STL files so any future licensor can go forward with the same minis, and most factions are lacking a few squads and characters to expand on.
Still the big gaps are the DL (4 out 5 apostles), White Star, and the Dark Eden tribes which leads to my relaunch idea. Feel free to steal this potential licensors, unless I win the powerball and beat you to it...

Launch with a Dark Eden post apocalyptic skirmish progression game similar to Necromunda, maybe 10-20 models a side.
You have Templars, Lutherans, Crescentians, Rasputinites, 5 flavors of DL and maybe White Star out of the box.
For expansions the rest of Dark Eden is still relatively blank, and you can always throw in Corporate advisors or full fledged Corp strike teams.
And after that you can always create rules for a proper reinforced platoon sized WZ game.

Or there is always Chronopia

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Arlington, va

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Miniature Market has just put its remaining stock up for clearance (did it just as I was adding stuff to my cart to compare prices with Prodos' shop), and it's pretty cheap. Get it while they have stuff left!


I could have saved $5 by waiting a day to buy the Grizzly but was worried I'd lose my chance. Ah well...

 
   
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Australia

I was exactly thinking of you when the clearance hit. But yeah, you've got to take the opportunity if you think it isn't going to be around for long. I just managed to fluke it as they had lowered prices across the entire range, so I got all the mechs I wanted and some other Warzone stuff I can use to proxy as other miniatures in 40k. It was cheaper to get it from Miniature Market than Prodos in the end. 15 pounds for shipping is a killer.
   
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 ThaneCawdor wrote:


Its possible Cabinet already had someone knocking on their door for the license leading to the break, its happened before with FFG.


It's possible, sure. Probable? Who would lay down the cash (except for me, but I don't have a couple hundred grand to burn) to drain the poisoned well that was Prodos' support for the game and then pick up a portfolio of designs that were part good, part bad and wholly inconsistent?

Killing it, letting a few years of dust cover the sharper edged memories and starting over from a clean slate is probably what this is about. Cabinet is cauterizing wounds here.


I mean, I'm all for some millionaire fan of the system to make it their pet project, but I'm also all in on world peace and WFB making a grand comeback...
   
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 His Master's Voice wrote:
 ThaneCawdor wrote:


Its possible Cabinet already had someone knocking on their door for the license leading to the break, its happened before with FFG.


It's possible, sure. Probable? Who would lay down the cash (except for me, but I don't have a couple hundred grand to burn) to drain the poisoned well that was Prodos' support for the game and then pick up a portfolio of designs that were part good, part bad and wholly inconsistent?

Killing it, letting a few years of dust cover the sharper edged memories and starting over from a clean slate is probably what this is about. Cabinet is cauterizing wounds here.


I mean, I'm all for some millionaire fan of the system to make it their pet project, but I'm also all in on world peace and WFB making a grand comeback...


I'll be there for Mutant Chronicles Warzone 5: This Time We Mean It


 
   
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SoCal

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Fenriswulf wrote:
Miniature Market has just put its remaining stock up for clearance (did it just as I was adding stuff to my cart to compare prices with Prodos' shop), and it's pretty cheap. Get it while they have stuff left!


I could have saved $5 by waiting a day to buy the Grizzly but was worried I'd lose my chance. Ah well...


You'd better buy another one to save that $5.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

You'd better buy another one to save that $5.


they still have 2! I'll practically be making money!

 
   
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A shame to see Warzone dropped… seems like one of those IP's full of potential but that never really has a long therm plan.

   
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Australia

This is the perfect line of thought for a miniature buyer.

*looks at pile of unused, un-assembled miniatures from back in time...*

Checks out
   
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California the Southern

Still waiting on that Chronopia revival...

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmCB2mWIxhYF8Q36d2Am_2A 
   
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Oh, a Prodos thread...this'll be fun...(grabs popcorn)

 
   
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Oh, hurray, I get to watch my favourite game property die for the fourth time (though I only barely count that FFG abomination)!

Oh well, I wonder if Modiphius is holding on to the Mutant Chronicles side of things (I kind of hope we get a revised core one of these days since subsequent 2d20 iterations have been vastly improved). Maybe they'll be awesome and pick up the wargame half as well (though with them doing Fallout, I'm kind of doubting it).

At least the short revival gave Modiphius time to print a complete RPG line for Mutant Chronicles (and finally gave us some Dark Eden stuff that wasn't just part of Warzone 1st Edition) even if Prodos barely got their feet wet before they it all up with their nosedive in to AvP and subsequent loss of all good will.

Needless to say, I won't be joining Prodos for this new property. I hopped on board for MC/Warzone and while the initial outing was promising, they showed the same lack of competence that every license holder after Target showed.

Either way, if it ever gets picked up again *cough*alongside Chronopia*cough* I hope that it finally gets a company that isn't looking to treat it like a museum piece, but who also respects where it came from. Modiphius walked this line well, but they didn't have the wargame license and are unlikely to grab it considering all the plates they have spinning. I guess I'll wait and see if this one rises again.

 
   
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West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA

I would kill for a Chronopia remake. Especially the Epic-scale version that was in the works but never got produced. I used to love the Chronopia sculpting style.



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Texas

Chronopia: Empire I think it was called. I am still sad that we had Warmaster and not that. I will happily support whomever is next in line for this license.

“The game you almost love to support.”

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Italy

Cabinet via Twitter just announced game is not dead. They will continue to produce rules and minis working with other companies.
   
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 AegisGrimm wrote:
Especially the Epic-scale version that was in the works but never got produced. I used to love the Chronopia sculpting style.


Oh I have never heard of that, too bad it never panned out. From what I could google on it seemed really neat.
   
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Linky link to the announcement? Can't locate Cabinet's official twitter account.
   
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UK

If they're already in a position to announce this, it sound less like Prodos abandoning Warzone, than Cabinet taking it away from them as soon as the licence expired

either because Prodos was doing well enough with the licence in terms of reputation, sales or both

or because they'd already had somebody else unofficially offer more

 
   
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United Kingdom

It will be interesting to see how this pans out. We were given the go-ahead to continue working on the rules, but if Cabinet have someone in mind to take over the whole thing and not just the production of miniatures, I suppose that won't last very long.

   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
If they're already in a position to announce this, it sound less like Prodos abandoning Warzone, than Cabinet taking it away from them as soon as the licence expired

either because Prodos was doing well enough with the licence in terms of reputation, sales or both

or because they'd already had somebody else unofficially offer more


The last Warzone release was, what? 8 months ago? The game certainly felt like it was abandoned.

The one two punch of announcing the death of Warzone AND the birth of another product line feels like it was Prodos dropping the licence in favour of in-house IP.
   
 
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