Spider-Man: Far From Home (Beware - there will probably be spoilers in here!)

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**Lance845**

I am guessing thats not ACTUALLY hydro man. I bet mysterio is pulling shennanigans to look like a hero while he gets away with gak.

"Il go fight "hydro man" and in the fight we will smash this hole in the bank. You guys get the loot. Il finish the "fight". And everyone will cheer and clap for me. Win-win!"

**Alpharius**

I'm pretty sure that yes, that's what's happening.

I think I read that 'theory' a few places online already.

Weird that he'd be able to fake out Nick and Maria too though.

High-tech chicanery for the win!

(And it llooks like we now know of at least 3 people now that will be un-snapped!)

**Riquende**

Well, this looks good.

**Asherian Command**

So mysterion is an illusionist right... I wonder if he is trying to steal stuff?

**Necros**

Looks good, but for a second there I thought it was Spiderman vs Green Lantern

**Alpharius**

(Not another confused Marvel/DC film crossover - please!)

Mysterio is a lot more...hi-tech/armored up/evil Iron Man in this version.

**Lance845**

Alpharius wrote:
(Not another confused Marvel/DC film crossover - please!)

Mysterio is a lot more...hi-tech/armored up/evil Iron Man in this version.

Thats assuming his armor and green energy actually does anything. It could all be for show (minus the flight obviously.).

**Compel**

That looks good.

Although the stand up for me from the trailer was the "epic" version of the Spider-man theme tune.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Impressive for a teaser.

And like Johnny Rico, I do want to know more

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Alpharius wrote:
I'm pretty sure that yes, that's what's happening.

I think I read that 'theory' a few places online already.

Weird that he'd be able to fake out Nick and Maria too though.

High-tech chicanery for the win!

(And it llooks like we now know of at least 3 people now that will be un-snapped!)

I think he's not faking out Nick and Maria, but that is the reason that they go to Peter in the first place, they think he's doing that and Peter happens to be an "asset" in play.

**Alpharius**

And the all important 'Helmet On' shot!

**Elemental**

Lance845 wrote:
I am guessing thats not ACTUALLY hydro man. I bet mysterio is pulling shennanigans to look like a hero while he gets away with gak.

"Il go fight "hydro man" and in the fight we will smash this hole in the bank. You guys get the loot. Il finish the "fight". And everyone will cheer and clap for me. Win-win!"

Given that there's also a giant rock guy, my first (and probably inaccurate) thought was the Absorbing Man, last seen in the Ang Lee Hulk.

**Alpharius**

He was?

I don't remember that...

Anyway, I like how there's a nice homage to the classic Mysterio 'eyes' on his costume when he fires off his...Mysterio Blasts?

**Asherian Command**

I am really happy about the suit and fishbowl helmet they look so on point. I like the idea of him being an actual illusionist and not just some technologist.

**Yodhrin**

Elemental wrote:
Lance845 wrote:
I am guessing thats not ACTUALLY hydro man. I bet mysterio is pulling shennanigans to look like a hero while he gets away with gak.

"Il go fight "hydro man" and in the fight we will smash this hole in the bank. You guys get the loot. Il finish the "fight". And everyone will cheer and clap for me. Win-win!"

Given that there's also a giant rock guy, my first (and probably inaccurate) thought was the Absorbing Man, last seen in the Ang Lee Hulk.

MCU Absorbing Man was a recurring character in Agents of Shield.

I'm gonna throw another vote on the "he's faking all of it for the likes/as a smokescreen for crime" pile. If so, it seems like the MCU Spiderman films are using their villains to explore the impact of a super-world on "regular folks", which is cool, and if Vulture was any indication should result in some cool and nuanced villains in future if they keep happening and following that theme. We've had "working schlub has life ruined by well-meaning billionaire supey-hero and turns to crime", this one could be "special effects wizard can't compete with the IRL spectacle of super heroes and goes wonko", and in future we could have "scientist resents being made redundant by super-duper alien tech so uses said tech to become evil". Obviously they'd write it better than me

**LunarSol**

Elemental wrote:
Lance845 wrote:
I am guessing thats not ACTUALLY hydro man. I bet mysterio is pulling shennanigans to look like a hero while he gets away with gak.

"Il go fight "hydro man" and in the fight we will smash this hole in the bank. You guys get the loot. Il finish the "fight". And everyone will cheer and clap for me. Win-win!"

Given that there's also a giant rock guy, my first (and probably inaccurate) thought was the Absorbing Man, last seen in the Ang Lee Hulk.

He was in Agents of SHIELD.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Release day tomorrow!

Gonna book off a half day, and go to the 13:30 showing up That London.

Reviews seem positive, if not outright glowing. Me? Well up for this. Thoroughly enjoyed Homecoming (I'm aware the jury is somewhat split on that effort), so should enjoy this.

**Alpharius**

I've got tickets for the first showing on Independence Day - should be a good movie - and plus, you know, Mysterio!

Getting us closer to a MCU version of the Sinister Six, I hope.

(Definitely hope the MCU beats Sony to that particular finish line too!)

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Interesting point on the Sinister Six.

I’m not massively familiar with them, but seem to recall Mysterio is a near constant member?

So with him being in the MCU? And Vulture? What does that mean for Sony doing a movie without Marvel? Would It have to be a multiverse thing, allowing for recasting etc?

**Lance845**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting point on the Sinister Six.

I’m not massively familiar with them, but seem to recall Mysterio is a near constant member?

So with him being in the MCU? And Vulture? What does that mean for Sony doing a movie without Marvel? Would It have to be a multiverse thing, allowing for recasting etc?

Sony needs to just stay the feth out of it. Into the Spiderverse is the fluke great thing they made and everything else has been crap.

**Alpharius**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting point on the Sinister Six.

I’m not massively familiar with them, but seem to recall Mysterio is a near constant member?

So with him being in the MCU? And Vulture? What does that mean for Sony doing a movie without Marvel? Would It have to be a multiverse thing, allowing for recasting etc?

I think the only real constant is...Doc Ock?

But I do believe Mysterio is around for quite a few of the reunions!

Original Sinister Six - Doc Ock, Electro, Vulture, Sandman, Mysterio, Kraven.

So, except for Kraven...they've all been on screen recently (more or less), but unfortunately, only Vulture and Mysterio have been MCU - with the Scorpion (and the Shocker!) being 'hinted' at.

So a ways to go for an MCU Sinister Six, sadly!

**Lance845**

I imagine scorpion is coming real soon. They have talked about doing kraven for years now. Doc oct really needs a mcu treatment. And sandman maybe part of the newest movie?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I do wonder if Marvel’s ‘loosening up’ after End Game (so still connected, but not necessarily all building to One Big Bad) might make Sinister Six easier to do?

Potentially as a sort of Reverse Avengers, depending on if, how and when each is introduced?

I mean, Vulture, Shocker and Mysterio are seemingly in the bag. And I understand the guy that talks to Vulture in Prison is the man behind the mask of Scorpion?

If that’s right, and provided there’s no-one else inserted as a tease/surprise in Far From Home? They’d only need to introduce two more from Spidey’s Rogues Gallery.

Now, Morbius is in the offing as a Sony effort. And much as I utterly loathe the actor, that could be number 5?

Hell, as a bit of a twist, could see the Hell’s Kitchen crew rock up to assist Spidey? OK I admit that’s my own fanboy wish - but, y’know, this is the MCU. I wouldn’t rule anything out.

**Lance845**

Yeah, the guy who was going to buy the weapons on the boat and then showed up with the broken arm in prison talking to Vulture was Mac Gargan. AKA The Scorpion (who also had a scorpion tattoo on his neck). He said he knew somebody that was interested in taking down spiderman. That could either be Doc Oct who will be behind arming Scorpion and potentially others or it could be Norman Osborn doing something similar. Remember, SOMEBODY bought Avengers Tower and Tony was moving everything out. Avengers Tower could soon be Oscorp. Or maybe it's going to be the Baxter Building (Fantastic 4 home base/think tank).

**Galef**

Yeah, Sinister 6 as the "Anti-Avengers" could be a cool foil for MCU Spidey. You might not even need to introduce all 6 before the movie itself. Vulture, Mysterio, Shocker and Scorpion are already lurking in the MCU, so you could intro Doc Oc as the "leader" + 1 other baddie and you're done.

Could call it "Spiderman - Homeward Bound" or "Spiderman - Homeland Security" (those are awful names, BTW)

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**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Homeland Security one tickled me!

**H.B.M.C.**

I've always said that Spider-Man: Homecoming was only called that because Marvel wouldn't've gotten away with calling it Spider-Man: Victory Lap.

Anyway, Far From Home, which I saw yesterday:

Spoiler:

Ok, separate section for the two (very very very important) post-credit scenes:

Spoiler:

So have fun with that guys.

[EDIT]: One other thing I do want to bring up, and this isn't a spoiler for the film, is just how large Tony Stark/Iron Man looms over the entire events of the film. Everywhere they go across Europe there are establishing shots or camera pans that show off murals or graffiti of Stark/Iron Man. Some are in airports, some are just on building walls, some are shrines surrounded by candles. They never really draw attention to it, but it's an effective visual motif.

Also, this movie straight up shows what the un-Snap looked like. It's very funny.

**Ouze**

Saw this last night. I thought it was great, although not quite as good as homecoming. I think I might have enjoyed it a bit more if I didn't know who Mysterio was, because that obviously messes up the movie a little in ways that I think the trailer makes readily apparent.

If nothing else, this made me rewatch a minute of Iron Man for a second and yup, checks out

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H.B.M.C. wrote:

Spoiler:

doing so by way of none other than J. Jonah Jameson played once again, and in a moment that made the audience in my theatre cheer, by JK Simmons!!!

My crowd also went wild - including myself.

**nels1031**

I heard no Stan Lee cameo?

I get why obviously, but still a bummer.

**Galef**

nels1031 wrote:
I heard no Stan Lee cameo?

I get why obviously, but still a bummer.

That surprises me. I assume there is something in the movie with Stan Lee, like a photo in the background somewhere.
I would doubt there will ever be a movie moving forward without some kind of Stan Lee reference, however obscure, in there somewhere

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