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It's very likely(if they haven't already hinted it themselves) that World Eaters and Emperor's Children will get books and some models like 1K and DG did. They've been showing off new slanesh demons too.

I think after Orks and GSC we'll have a big slow down of 40k. Then a lot of AoS to pull in or replace a bunch of the factions that got shattered in AoS 1.0. A friend of mine said he read somewhere in GW's stuff and the fluff for AoS that there are supposed to be 4 major elf factions, 1 for each elf god. Deepkin are 1, Daughters of Khaine are 1, leaving 2 new ones coming at some point relatively soon.

I think they'll drop WE and EC, as well as Ynnari in and around AoS.

end of Q1 or Q2 2019 I think they'll jump on the 40k Imperium again with Sisters, and some kind of imperial agents book to shore up Inquisition, Assassins, maybe RT as a new mini faction, etc. Basically a book of small factions meant to take as allies to main factions. Sisters of Silence will either be rolled up into that or made into a new book like Custodes.

I'm assuming sisters will be latter in 2019 since they are getting a beta codex this year. To have time to make rules corrections and tweaks from live gameplay and then sent it to the printers would take a few months.

 Stux wrote:


I prefer the implied suggestion above:

Codex Primaris Lieutenants

Models only available at store openings, anniversaries and other special occasions.

So basically Pretorians Mk II.

 G00fySmiley wrote:
I'd love to see a Tau empire codex, introduce new alien races that have allied with the tau. There is a lot of potential there.

I agree with you here. There are about 7 races listed as allies of the Tau. We only have rules for two, and one of them sucks so bad I've never seen one outside a box on the store shelf. Expanded Kroot and Vespid would be nice. Imagine a female Vespid that is Crisis Suit sized. Demiuge could be interesting. So much potential.

I for one would like to see them create a New Warhammer Game. A brand new setting. Neither 40k or AOS.

My personal opinion is that they should quit creating new codices and factions - but that's an easy way to generate sales and revenue. It's bad for the game, but good for profits. I'd have vastly preferred fewer factions and more attention paid to said factions. I'm not a fan at all of burst releases like GW tends to do. I'd always rather one kit for three factions each...than three kits for some single faction. With the number of factions/armies at the moment we'll quickly be back to 3-4 years between releases of meaningful models for certain factions (I don't count single one-off plastic characters as valid releases).

I genuinely believe that 40K is now at the bursting point of being too big to support all of the races involved...but we've seen that financially, new kits and new factions are great for GW's profit. We'll see how long they can keep it up, while sacrificing the interest of long-term army collectors.

 Elbows wrote:
My personal opinion is that they should quit creating new codices and factions - but that's an easy way to generate sales and revenue. It's bad for the game, but good for profits. I'd have vastly preferred fewer factions and more attention paid to said factions. I'm not a fan at all of burst releases like GW tends to do. I'd always rather one kit for three factions each...than three kits for some single faction. With the number of factions/armies at the moment we'll quickly be back to 3-4 years between releases of meaningful models for certain factions (I don't count single one-off plastic characters as valid releases).

I genuinely believe that 40K is now at the bursting point of being too big to support all of the races involved...but we've seen that financially, new kits and new factions are great for GW's profit. We'll see how long they can keep it up, while sacrificing the interest of long-term army collectors.

might be able to do so for awhile thanks to the allies rules. When Imperial Faction X comes out, due to allies players of Imperial faction Y are more inclined to at least consider buying some

Huron black heart wrote:Bringing back Warhammer fantasy

I wholeheartedly agree, but am pessimistic enough to think that whatever edition they base a revival on will be one of the editions I detested.

G00fySmiley wrote:I'd love to see a Tau empire codex, introduce new alien races that have allied with the tau. There is a lot of potential there.

In the 3rd Ed. rulebook there is a page with a number of xenos species including Kroot, THAT is what they need to focus on doing.

 Jaxler wrote:
Reprint grey knights SM chaos marines and Dark Angels with books that actually work.


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Also actually stitching inquisition back together would be nice.

Dark Angels have an awesome book, the most versatile chapter of them all, I really don't get other DA whining at all

We have the best plasma

We have the best psychic powers

We have a way to add -1 to hit to our vehicles

Our Chapter Master ads a 4++ on infantry

We have Talon Master/Sammael - two awesome, mobile character chaff killers

We can ignore cover for a part of our army

We can have an awesome smash captain with the "Lion and Wolf" stratagem (there is a huge advantage in having a Thunder Hammer hit on 2+)

We can conceal our objectives (underused stratagem of immense value)

We have the best Termies (granted they're still crap, but still better than any other chapter)

 Dovis wrote:

 Jaxler wrote:
Reprint grey knights SM chaos marines and Dark Angels with books that actually work.


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Also actually stitching inquisition back together would be nice.

Dark Angels have an awesome book, the most versatile chapter of them all, I really don't get other DA whining at all

We have the best plasma

We have the best psychic powers

We have a way to add -1 to hit to our vehicles

Our Chapter Master ads a 4++ on infantry

We have Talon Master/Sammael - two awesome, mobile character chaff killers

We can ignore cover for a part of our army

We can have an awesome smash captain with the "Lion and Wolf" stratagem (there is a huge advantage in having a Thunder Hammer hit on 2+)

We can conceal our objectives (underused stratagem of immense value)

We have the best Termies (granted they're still crap, but still better than any other chapter)

Totally agree.

They're still marines, they still have marine problems. But compared to other marine Codexes they're doing pretty well I'd say!

Actually since the last FAQ neutering Blood Angels and Raven Guard, they're arguably the second best flavour of marines after Deathwatch.

I think with some people there's a tendancy to focus on the bad, and what they don't have, instead of what they do have. obviously marines and marines, but on a compartive level the various "snow flake chapters" (grey knights aside are in the best position they've been in since I started 40K. having a number of unique and intreasting options, and giving up almost nothing to vanilla marines by comparison. Heck, for non Ultramarine vanilla marines, they're in a pretty gak place this codex cycle compared to the other marine armies.

I think chapter-specific codexes are inevitable, it's been 20+ years since the Space Wolf Codex in 2nd edition (out BEFORE the generic SM codex), let it go.

Are there any chapters that seem up for the codex treatment?

Wasn't there mention of Primaris Only chapters? That seems a no brainer.

I would love if GW took Primaris marines out of the real marine codex. I do hate paying for content I have no interest or need.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I think chapter-specific codexes are inevitable, it's been 20+ years since the Space Wolf Codex in 2nd edition (out BEFORE the generic SM codex), let it go.

Are there any chapters that seem up for the codex treatment?

Wasn't there mention of Primaris Only chapters? That seems a no brainer.

There were Ultima Founding chapters, but they were all successors so probably better handled in their parent's book. There's also none that are obvious candidates for full codex treatment, yet. In fact I think the only successor that ever had a standalone codex was Black Templars, but they had some pretty unique fluff to back it up.

Not saying a Primaris chapter specific codex is impossible, but it would be a hard sell.

Maybe if they take a chapter that has some awareness in the community already, and then have them become a Primaris chapter for some reason that could work. Probably a cursed founding chapter so there's something reasonably unique about them.

Inevitably there would be some backlash from the fans of that chapter who also happened to hate Primaris, but they probably wouldn't be that great in number.

I really don't see any of the other SM chapters being put into their own book - they simply aren't different enough from the standard to justify it. Blood Angels and Dark Angels are already toeing the line big time and probably could be tossed into the main book without any serious issues.

Like, compare how different the Dark Angels are to bog-standard Ultramarines versus the radically different troop organization of the Deathwatch, or how the Thousand Sons literally can't run any marines that aren't psykers or dust golems. It'd be largely impossible to play a Thousand Sons army that feels right using standard CSM tools, you would have to deliberately limit yourself from taking a number of options available to the Heretic Astartes faction as a whole to play a "real" Thousand Sons army. The line between Dark Angels and Adeptus Astartes is significantly more vague and basically just involves the Dark Angels having versions of regular Space Marine units with fancy hoods.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I would love if GW took Primaris marines out of the real marine codex. I do hate paying for content I have no interest or need.

"I would really love it if GW took Scout Marines out of the real marine codex, I do hate paying for content I have no intreast or need in"

"I would really love it if GW took Stormtroopers/Scions out of the real Imperial Guard codex, I do hate paying for content I have no intreast or need in"

your comments sounds just as silly and frankly self centered. "I don't like unit X so they shouldn't put it in the codex" Primaris Marines are a space marine unit dude. Plenty of people run armies where a partiuclar unit in it just doesn't intreast them. they don't run around demanding GW remove it from the codex though.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I would love if GW took Primaris marines out of the real marine codex. I do hate paying for content I have no interest or need.

Oh that will happen, but probably not in the way you like! In the ninth edition your 'real marine codex', will probably be some hastily put together PDF for legacy units.

 Crimson wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I would love if GW took Primaris marines out of the real marine codex. I do hate paying for content I have no interest or need.

Oh that will happen, but probably not in the way you like! In the ninth edition your 'real marine codex', will probably be some hastily put together PDF for legacy units.

This is what I'm expecting. Next edition Tacticals being Index only seems entirely plausible.

I expect them to be legally playable for a VERY long time, but supported as a legacy option.

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Stux wrote:

 Dovis wrote:

 Jaxler wrote:
Reprint grey knights SM chaos marines and Dark Angels with books that actually work.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also actually stitching inquisition back together would be nice.

Dark Angels have an awesome book, the most versatile chapter of them all, I really don't get other DA whining at all

We have the best plasma

We have the best psychic powers

We have a way to add -1 to hit to our vehicles

Our Chapter Master ads a 4++ on infantry

We have Talon Master/Sammael - two awesome, mobile character chaff killers

We can ignore cover for a part of our army

We can have an awesome smash captain with the "Lion and Wolf" stratagem (there is a huge advantage in having a Thunder Hammer hit on 2+)

We can conceal our objectives (underused stratagem of immense value)

We have the best Termies (granted they're still crap, but still better than any other chapter)

Totally agree.

They're still marines, they still have marine problems. But compared to other marine Codexes they're doing pretty well I'd say!

Actually since the last FAQ neutering Blood Angels and Raven Guard, they're arguably the second best flavour of marines after Deathwatch.

[spoiler]

And DA have the best....everything out of Astartes. but still not that good compared to eldar (all), chaos, nids.

I would really like them to broaden the inquisition and make an emperors enforcers faction (arbites). Maybe Squ...I probably shouldn't say it.

 Crimson wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
I would love if GW took Primaris marines out of the real marine codex. I do hate paying for content I have no interest or need.

Oh that will happen, but probably not in the way you like! In the ninth edition your 'real marine codex', will probably be some hastily put together PDF for legacy units.

I fully acknowledge this is likely to happen and have made peace with it. I'll either play other editions or a different army, currently waiting for sisters to drop and have them be the next big project. However I hate Primaris marines as a concept and will never buy a single one.

I am afraid that the only system getting updated army ranges these days, and for the foreseeable future - barring space nuns - is AoS. Which is great cause for celebration just as long as you like Storm Crap Eternals.

I would love to see an entirely new faction. Custodes are the only real new faction since Tau, and they were released 17 years ago. Hard to believe we've only seen 1 new faction in 17 years, and that a lot of core models for Eldar are even older than that. Also the Custodes aren't even really a full faction yet. I think a new xenos faction would do wonders for the game.

Don't forget about knights. It took a while to flesh them out, but they're definitely less than 17 years old as a separate faction.

 Toofast wrote:
I would love to see an entirely new faction. Custodes are the only real new faction since Tau, and they were released 17 years ago. Hard to believe we've only seen 1 new faction in 17 years, and that a lot of core models for Eldar are even older than that. Also the Custodes aren't even really a full faction yet. I think a new xenos faction would do wonders for the game.

we've been getting TONS of new factions lately man, even if you discount Deathwatch, 1k sons and Deathguard because they're marine varients (which doesn't mean they're not differant) since 6th edition launched we've gotten knights, Genestealer Cults, Admech & Harliquins, in addition to Custodes. and yes, in the case of all those armies they had some minor representation in the form of one mini for another army or something, they are definatly IMHO new armies.
I mean Custodes have been around in the background forever too. In fact I suspect we might soon seen a slacking off of new armies simply because the low hanging fruit has all been picked.

In fact if anything we've gotten so many new factions you could legit argue it's possiably a problem for 40k, with so many old factions so heavy on finecast and old out dated models...

BrianDavion wrote:

 Toofast wrote:
I would love to see an entirely new faction. Custodes are the only real new faction since Tau, and they were released 17 years ago. Hard to believe we've only seen 1 new faction in 17 years, and that a lot of core models for Eldar are even older than that. Also the Custodes aren't even really a full faction yet. I think a new xenos faction would do wonders for the game.

we've been getting TONS of new factions lately man, even if you discount Deathwatch, 1k sons and Deathguard because they're marine varients (which doesn't mean they're not differant) since 6th edition launched we've gotten knights, Genestealer Cults, Admech & Harliquins, in addition to Custodes. and yes, in the case of all those armies they had some minor representation in the form of one mini for another army or something, they are definatly IMHO new armies.
I mean Custodes have been around in the background forever too. In fact I suspect we might soon seen a slacking off of new armies simply because the low hanging fruit has all been picked.

In fact if anything we've gotten so many new factions you could legit argue it's possiably a problem for 40k, with so many old factions so heavy on finecast and old out dated models...

That's why I said xenos faction, and preferably a new one. Harlequins and GSC aren't even full armies. Well, they can be, but you won't do very well.

GSC has the tools to be a full army, it's just they don't have a codex and the assigned values in the Index are weak. By that metric Necrons aren't a full army either.

In that regard your right, GW really isn't all that interested in full armies any more. Almost everything they have released the last few years faction wise are sub factions, with the expectation you'll buy from existing lines to fill the gaps. Ad mech is sorta an example that both confirms and breaks that rule. It was released as three books, then sorta condensed into one and then split again. Deathguard and hopefully Sisters will be the exception to the rule.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
In that regard your right, GW really isn't all that interested in full armies any more. Almost everything they have released the last few years faction wise are sub factions, with the expectation you'll buy from existing lines to fill the gaps. Ad mech is sorta an example that both confirms and breaks that rule. It was released as three books, then sorta condensed into one and then split again. Deathguard and hopefully Sisters will be the exception to the rule.

with admech even when they released the rumor mill was basicly saying we'd eventually see it condensed into one codex, what happened was they needed to do a two wave release, so, to prevent a "in the codex but no mini" situation they did two mini codices with the FULL intent of consolidation in 8th.

Imperial Knights though is good evidance that the mini factions will be expanded over time, at least the popular ones. death watch is as full a codex as GKs, and Custodes, well.. we could get more stuff but there's no way you can field everything in the army for a 2000 point game as it stands so uhh/.. whatever?