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Hrud, Squats, Dark Mechanicum, Men of Iron, Enslavers w/slave armies, Adeptus Arbites, The Return of Malice (5th chaos god), Exodites, Space Lizardmen/Slann, More fleshed out inquisition, Harlequins and sisters of silence....

 Alphabet wrote:
DE might be the closest we get to xenos variety.

Maybe once.

Right now DE is the codex of 'No model: unit deleted.'

mecha-arachnids

Racerguy180 wrote:
mecha-arachnids

As a base concept for another Necron unit, that would be pretty cool.

I'm just gonna copy & paste some faction ideas I saw in the comment section of that video. Mainly because I really like these two ideas in particular.

"Something that the Traditional Gaming board of 4chan came up with was effectively Daemon Taming Space Tibetans. I believe it was called the 108 Pearls of Perfection, a collection of planets ruled and protected by psyker monks who, through intense self-discipline and control, could shape daemons into more usable servants and maintain their personalities when possessed. Tech level was on par with the Imperium if I recall when it came to non-psyker troops." - Quote #1

"I would like to see the Traders becoming their own factions, of course not all Traders but a group of very powerful and wealthy Traders deciding that a section of the Galaxy belongs to them at which point they carve out a piece and establish a free trade "city" kind of like Venice back in the day. Their army should have a mercenary feel and include aliens. Their attitude to others should be business like but guarded and their main traits should be greed and a strict hierarchy based on wealth and connections. The power should be split among the founding Trader clans as well as one or two newcomers that climbed up from below. They should not act as one but see it as a beneficial partnership most of the time although at times a few clans could work together but unless their civilization faces imminent destruction there would never be a situation where all their interests align. They are not interested in expanding their territory aside from striking out to set up temporary mining and other resource colonies." - Quote #2

"I would love to see some relics of the Old ones maybe sentient machine they created and that were reactivated accidentally by some explorer. Another of their "weapons" created to fight against the C'tan. Even a descendant species that have some of their technologies and want to reclaim their ancestors realm." - Quote #3

That's my two (or rather three, technically) cents on the matter. There were other comments with ideas I liked, but I left them out because of time constraints/laziness.

I'm fairly sure #3 already exists, K9ofChaos - they're called "Orks".

Pancakey wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Grey Knights.

This guy gets it.

Wrong. Grey Knights are absolutely playable in 8th. GW only calls them now Custodes.

 Dysartes wrote:
I'm fairly sure #3 already exists, K9ofChaos - they're called "Orks".

#1 sounds a lot like the Interex too.

Enslavers would be cool as a minor sub-faction that could ally with most races (aka, enslave most races).

The Army of the Old Ones aka Lizardmen in Space.

Exodite
Ynnari(just expand it into its own force with separate point costs from Drukhari and Craftworlds)
Interex

 Galas wrote:
Grey Knights.

This, but a close second would be if they made some inquisition forces. I understand that they released some neat models in the past, and it would be really nice if they made some 8th edition rules to make them playable.

I want all my stuff that has models but no/non-functional rules (Corsairs, the Ordo Reductor, Grey Knights, the other 2/3rds of the Custodians book...).

Then I want plastics for everything currently stuck in metal/Finecast (Aspects, Sisters, half the Dark Eldar range...), and updates for all the twenty-year-old plastic kits that are grotesquely out of scale with the modern game but we're expected to use anyway (Guardians, Guardsmen, Orks, 3/4 of the tanks...).

Then we can start talking about new races.

No new factions...at ALL.

In fact so many of these niche factions need to be combined into existing dexes so BALANCE is possible...

Sisters of Silence, Assassins, Astra Telepathica, Grey Knights should all be rolled into a codex.

Renegade Guard, Dark Mechanicus, Gellerpox, Servants of the Abyss etc etc etc should be combined with Chaos.

Eldar Corsairs recombined with Aeldari, Ynarri should be combined with Harlequins.

We need to cut out the bloat, not add to it.

 iGuy91 wrote:
No new factions...at ALL.

In fact so many of these niche factions need to be combined into existing dexes so BALANCE is possible...

Sisters of Silence, Assassins, Astra Telepathica, Grey Knights should all be rolled into a codex.

Renegade Guard, Dark Mechanicus, Gellerpox, Servants of the Abyss etc etc etc should be combined with Chaos.

Eldar Corsairs recombined with Aeldari, Ynarri should be combined with Harlequins.

We need to cut out the bloat, not add to it.

The bloat and unbalance that comes with it isn't caused by the number of models and factions, but by its span. You can have a game with half a million different type of infantry and have a balanced game. It's the fact 40K has range that goes from gretchins to Imperial Knights and superheavy tanks passing by giant monsters that causes the most balance issues. Calling for rolling factions into one or against adding new factions isn't going to change anything.

Dark Mechancium is really the only faction I think I'd like to see added at this point. After that, I personally think the 40K factions are complete enough, and that all work should be used to extend the exiting ranges.

The problem with recombining is that we already have units in each codex that are almost never taken. Combining codexes just means there will be a substantially more of those dead weight units.

Now, there is another way of recombining. Recombine and then have sub-factions just like the Drukhari codex did. That way all the Aeldari units could in one big megatome even though they all play very differently with some of the units being somewhat agnostic(perhaps rangers and corsair like units, Harlequins, and Drukhari mercenaries).

The only problem people might have with that is the fact that this would cement faction soup as a thing.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

Human vs. Alien isn't as interesting as Human vs. Human, and I'm not particularly into the superhumans aesthetic of the Space Marines.

Thats probably the least interesting part of 40K.

 Imateria wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

Human vs. Alien isn't as interesting as Human vs. Human, and I'm not particularly into the superhumans aesthetic of the Space Marines.

Thats probably the least interesting part of 40K.

Human vs Human? Idk, I do enjoy Guardsmen against Renegade Guardsmen, especially when those are Blood Pact.

 iGuy91 wrote:
No new factions...at ALL.

Um, very few people have actually mentioned new factions. They've mentioned factions that exist in 40K, just maybe not in model form as yet.

Though, I do have to agree that some armies need to be adjusted. Do we really need a codex very every First Founding Chapter? Technically speaking, all of the Imperium should be in one book if we're going to stick all of Chaos in to one book.

I want to see (THE RETURN OF!) the Saharduin / Pisceans. They even had a model in the fogy mists of the rogue trader era.

I'm hoping they and ambulls might make an eventual appearance in a Black Stone fortress expansion.




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 Charistoph wrote:

 iGuy91 wrote:
No new factions...at ALL.

Um, very few people have actually mentioned new factions. They've mentioned factions that exist in 40K, just maybe not in model form as yet.

Though, I do have to agree that some armies need to be adjusted. Do we really need a codex very every First Founding Chapter? Technically speaking, all of the Imperium should be in one book if we're going to stick all of Chaos in to one book.

But Chaos isnt all in one book any more...

 Charistoph wrote:

 iGuy91 wrote:
No new factions...at ALL.

Um, very few people have actually mentioned new factions. They've mentioned factions that exist in 40K, just maybe not in model form as yet.

Though, I do have to agree that some armies need to be adjusted. Do we really need a codex very every First Founding Chapter? Technically speaking, all of the Imperium should be in one book if we're going to stick all of Chaos in to one book.

Still have my Angels of Death Codex. Would not mind if Blood Angels and Dark Angels would be combined back again into such a codex.

Exodites. You could even make them part of a Eldar cult codex to merge them with Harlequins and Ynnari.

 Charistoph wrote:

 iGuy91 wrote:
No new factions...at ALL.

Um, very few people have actually mentioned new factions. They've mentioned factions that exist in 40K, just maybe not in model form as yet.

Though, I do have to agree that some armies need to be adjusted. Do we really need a codex very every First Founding Chapter? Technically speaking, all of the Imperium should be in one book if we're going to stick all of Chaos in to one book.

This drives me crazy every time I see it suggested. If you put all the IOM stuff in one book it would be bigger than a text book and cost 200+ dollars. That ship sailed as early as 5th edition if not earlier and is not a viable idea at this point.

Carlovonsexron wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:

 iGuy91 wrote:
No new factions...at ALL.

Um, very few people have actually mentioned new factions. They've mentioned factions that exist in 40K, just maybe not in model form as yet.

Though, I do have to agree that some armies need to be adjusted. Do we really need a codex very every First Founding Chapter? Technically speaking, all of the Imperium should be in one book if we're going to stick all of Chaos in to one book.

But Chaos isnt all in one book any more...

I was referencing a part I did not quote.

iGuy91 wrote:Renegade Guard, Dark Mechanicus, Gellerpox, Servants of the Abyss etc etc etc should be combined with Chaos.

That one, which was basically the same thing as combining all of the Imperium in to one book.

HoundsofDemos wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:

 iGuy91 wrote:
No new factions...at ALL.

Um, very few people have actually mentioned new factions. They've mentioned factions that exist in 40K, just maybe not in model form as yet.

Though, I do have to agree that some armies need to be adjusted. Do we really need a codex very every First Founding Chapter? Technically speaking, all of the Imperium should be in one book if we're going to stick all of Chaos in to one book.

This drives me crazy every time I see it suggested. If you put all the IOM stuff in one book it would be bigger than a text book and cost 200+ dollars. That ship sailed as early as 5th edition if not earlier and is not a viable idea at this point.

Very true, that's one of the reasons I put in the "if" statment in to it. Now, a lot of the Imperium and Chaos should be quandranted, but some of it is very silly. Death Watch, Legion of the Damned, Inquisition, Custodes, Grey Knights, and Sisters should only be their own thing in Kill Team, while augments to the Imperial Guard or Marines outside it. The Knights would fit in to that category if they didn't cost more than a Kill Team and be completely inappropriate for the setting.

Chaos is largely the same, but I would stick them in to the Dedicated and the Renegades, myself.

Megarachnids

SG

As for new races bring in expansion on the Tau allied races. Demiurg, Gue´vesa and tarrelians. If a new faction and race I think the rakghoul would make a good codex with their primitive yet deadly weaponry or the Q'Orl since they are an established empire in the lore.

I would rather see them add things to Kill Team or Blackstone than more half assed mini codexes. The smaller scale games are a better venue for the more background races rather than trying to shoehorn them into full factions.

- Eldar Exodites (as the Dragon Riders always sounded cool)
- Space Dwarves (probably renaming the Squats to something a touch less daft, with some of the Kharadron aesthetic)
- Dark Ad Mech (if they can get some solid concepts for it)
- Kroot Mercs (if only so we can get an official Vultures kit - with a fez!)

I'd like to see an expansion wave for some of the smaller factions too, either adding new options (Ad Mech - Skitarii HQ, an in-Codex transport, some more armoured vehicles) or bringing back excised options (Dark Eldar, at a minimum, with characters/aliens).

Give me Dark Mechanicum and Lost and the Damned as full Citadel supported armies and I'll be happy as a clam. Did you see those models in Black Fortress?