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2019/02/12 04:44:36
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
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The only people who might take offense might be some people from the South who use the term to refer to people from the North-east, and would not appreciate being lumped in with them. Most people will simply be slightly confused and/or not care.
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We live in times where people get butthurt and whiny over anything. I've seen some situations where it seems as if people are deliberately trying to be offended.
2019/02/12 06:57:16
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
If I hear "yank" with a british accent I assume it is referring to Americans, if I hear it from another American I assume it is referring to people from the northeast. Either way it's short for 'yankee' in my mind just different uses. Not offended either way.
Thargrim wrote: We live in times where people get butthurt and whiny over anything. I've seen some situations where it seems as if people are deliberately trying to be offended.
I honestly can't tell which is greater; the offense taken over dumb primary things or the over-reactive offense taken at people being offended. SJW and anti-PC are ultimately just mirrors of each other methinks.
I find this thread quite interesting. It's curious that all respondents from the US, because in my experience when I hear people using 'Yank' (in person) it's virtually always as a pejorative - though it's usually at least in part dictated by context (usually concerning them being ill-educated/insular and inward-looking like is the common stereotype in much of Europe). The remainder are generally using it to pointedly not use 'American'. I can't think of many examples of people using it simply as slang for 'person from the US'.
I presume this is a coincidence of my social circle given it seems so different from people above - though that circle is quite diverse.
2019/02/12 08:41:30
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Yes. Northeastern specifically (for a given value of north and east that sometimes includes Maryland in very specific contexts). West of Ohio, people would just look at you funny.
yank though.... It's pretty much out of US parlance, and only gets used by Brits as fas as I know, and sounds quaint and backwards. Like calling an Englishman a Norman or Saxon. I wouldn't expect offense, just a patronizing smirk, in a 'aren't you so adorable with your Britishisms' sort of way.
Hah, well. Then you are more laid back compared to us, granted we are a confederacy instead of a federation but it is an absolute nogo if you ' d call us germans.
Or austrians, but that would probably be more acceptable.
Don't worry about it. Many americans would call you Swedish instead.
Yeah, that's it. There isn't a joke. That actually happens.
Don't you also use our flag as a medical sign instead of a real medical flag? And yes i know it, i had on multiple ocassions to explain to people that SWEDES are not SWISS. Also rule of dumb, if the flag is quadratic and has a cross over it, you either run into a Swiss Mercenary host burning down southern germany (not common anymore, nowadays, more likely to happen in Lichtenstein though ) or you have a swiss flag infront of you.
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2019/02/12 09:38:55
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
And yes i know it, i had on multiple ocassions to explain to people that SWEDES are not SWISS.
Could be worse. Swaziland officially changed their name because they were sick f being confused with you cats.
Thank god we swiss never really set sail and colonised stuff.
Also Cats?
I mean i like the furballs.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/02/12 11:08:05
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Yea Southerners can take offense to it, I don't think us northerners ever really cared about it. I don't take any offense to it at all. I've been called a Yank by a Texan a few times, Europeans many times, to me it's like calling an Englishmen a Brit or an Australian an Aussie
2019/02/12 11:55:19
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Ok that is genuinely funny, australia -hungary, that would be a Duo worthy of the balkansmess
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/02/12 12:59:42
Subject: Re:American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
It's obvious that despite years of alliance and friendship between Britain and the USA, we're still two countries separated by a common language.
I recommend that every American dakka member familiarise themselves with this film.
Honestly, I do love these WW2 American training films.
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deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2019/02/12 13:03:27
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Skinnereal wrote: Is that the one for US servicemen stationed in the UK?
There were parts of it on how to deal with the diversity of people here.
The whole archive is up on YouTube, tons of videos made by the war department, and they're good fun to watch.
In many respects, Britain was 'invaded' by the USA during world war 2. Yes, it was the most friendliest invasion in human history, but look at the damage they did:
they stole our women, gave us spam and had us seriously considering drinking root beer!
Damn those Yanks!
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2019/02/12 13:22:14
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
admironheart wrote: There are many other slurs...but most have faded with generations.
My wife comes from dumb Wops("Without Papers"...but normally Italians)
I'm a dumb Hunkie (slavs)
not to be confused with my brother in law the dumb Pollock.(polish)
many more out there in a country of mixed breeds
Yeah, those... aren't even vaguely acceptable anymore (except possibly the middle one, which I haven't ever heard). Haven't heard anyone in the flesh actually use the others since the early 90s, and even then it didn't fall into 'casual-friendly' insult, just outright racist.
Funny Story: my wife always heard my mom (100% polish) joke about us being Pollacks, so she'd occasionally joke to strangers that her husband was "a Pollack."
She apparently had never heard the term, and thought it was affectionate!
2019/02/12 14:03:07
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
I've never met a single American who was offended by the word Yank. However, it's 2019 so I'm sure there is an institution built somewhere, funded by public money which is dedicated to eradication of the word because they "believe" it's offensive to someone, somewhere, somehow.
Being offended for someone else went from being a hobby to a god damn business over here.
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2019/02/12 14:33:57
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Skinnereal wrote: Is that the one for US servicemen stationed in the UK?
There were parts of it on how to deal with the diversity of people here.
The whole archive is up on YouTube, tons of videos made by the war department, and they're good fun to watch.
In many respects, Britain was 'invaded' by the USA during world war 2. Yes, it was the most friendliest invasion in human history, but look at the damage they did:
they stole our women, gave us spam and had us seriously considering drinking root beer!
Damn those Yanks!
To be fair, you are now returning the favor. My daughter is now saying words with a British accent because of Peppa Pig.
Anyway, I was born in the South, raised and currently live in the north. I've never heard of anyone getting offended by the use of the word Yank, much less by someone from the UK.
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2019/02/12 15:26:23
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Being from Ireland, I am of course a Paddy. Or a Mick, take your pick!
While I personally avoid using slang for people's nationality, there is far too much whingeing about it. The net would be a far calmer place if everyone paid more attention to the manner in which something is said, instead of zeroing in on their use of a particular term and playing the "I'm offended" card. Except for terms which are blatantly racist of course.
I remember a contestant on Big Brother called an Indian girl "poppadoms" and there was a giant media controversy over this "racist" comment. While she was clearly being unpleasant, I found it ridiculous that calling someone after one of their national foods was considered racist -it's just a lame insult. Had she called an Irish person a spud (slang for potato, our national crop!) I doubt there would have been any fuss.
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2019/02/12 16:08:54
Subject: Re:American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
thegreatchimp wrote: Being from Ireland, I am of course a Paddy. Or a Mick, take your pick!
While I personally avoid using slang for people's nationality, there is far too much whingeing about it. The net would be a far calmer place if everyone paid more attention to the manner in which something is said, instead of zeroing in on their use of a particular term and playing the "I'm offended" card. Except for terms which are blatantly racist of course.
I remember a contestant on Big Brother called an Indian girl "poppadoms" and there was a giant media controversy over this "racist" comment. While she was clearly being unpleasant, I found it ridiculous that calling someone after one of their national foods was considered racist -it's just a lame insult. Had she called an Irish person a spud (slang for potato, our national crop!) I doubt there would have been any fuss.
Yeah, we often overlook the huge amount of 'divisions' in Britain and the Republic of Ireland, when it comes to different groups and accents. Quite remarkable, given the small size of our respective nations.
You have Scots, Irish, Welsh and English. A north and south divide in England, Mackems and Geordies, Liverpool/Manchester, Glasgow/Edinburgh, Highlanders Lowlanders etc etc and Yorkshiremen and women thinking they're a cut above everybody.
And don't get me started on Cornwall and the West Country.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2019/02/12 16:14:46
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Yes. Northeastern specifically (for a given value of north and east that sometimes includes Maryland in very specific contexts). West of Ohio, people would just look at you funny.
yank though.... It's pretty much out of US parlance, and only gets used by Brits as fas as I know, and sounds quaint and backwards. Like calling an Englishman a Norman or Saxon. I wouldn't expect offense, just a patronizing smirk, in a 'aren't you so adorable with your Britishisms' sort of way.
Hah, well. Then you are more laid back compared to us, granted we are a confederacy instead of a federation but it is an absolute nogo if you ' d call us germans.
Or austrians, but that would probably be more acceptable.
Don't worry about it. Many americans would call you Swedish instead.
Yeah, that's it. There isn't a joke. That actually happens.
Don't you also use our flag as a medical sign instead of a real medical flag?
And yes i know it, i had on multiple ocassions to explain to people that SWEDES are not SWISS.
Also rule of dumb, if the flag is quadratic and has a cross over it, you either run into a Swiss Mercenary host burning down southern germany (not common anymore, nowadays, more likely to happen in Lichtenstein though ) or you have a swiss flag infront of you.
I'm not actually sure what a 'real medical flag' would look like.
But the swiss cross is familiar to most americans thanks to the 'swiss army knife'
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2019/02/12 16:24:01
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Albino Squirrel wrote: No. But some people can find a way to be offended by just about anything.
So I went through the thread and counted; zero people saying they would be offended, three people going on about 'some people can be offended by anything.'
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Possibly a little offensive here.... A while back when things were very slow at work, we were bored and started talking about old-timey talk. Mostly because we told a teenager she could leave at "a quarter to 7" and she replied "you mean 6:35?" BTW, she was serious.
This conversation lead to old-time insults and slurs that everyone had all but forgotten about. Everything from Wop to Dago, to Guido.
I then pondered the question, why is there no white-person slur that I truly find offensive? You'd figure that over the course of the last 400 years someone would have taken the time to think up something. The fact they haven't is more insulting than being called a Cracker.
2019/02/12 18:34:05
Subject: American dakka members: are you offended by the word Yank?
Albino Squirrel wrote: No. But some people can find a way to be offended by just about anything.
So I went through the thread and counted; zero people saying they would be offended, three people going on about 'some people can be offended by anything.'
I guess you missed the very first post, which included: "And somebody took me to task on this, said I was racist for using the word Yank."
That's kind of what the whole thread is about. Clearly someone got offended by the use of the work "Yank". Though come to think of it, their complaint is rather non-nonsensical anyway, since Yank is not a race. So, I wouldn't put much stock in what that person thinks.