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I wouldn't object to counts-as, so long as whatever is doing the standing in is a correct base and in casual context.

However, I probably wouldn't be willing to permanently say that unmodified Sternguard are Eliminators unless at least some notable conversion work went into them, and they were properly based.

 Galef wrote:

 argonak wrote:
Eliminators are on a 40mm base. Those look like 25mm, which is way too small.

Arguable, only the kneeling Elims should be on 40mm. The standing ones would look just fine on 32s, which is the route I've taken for my Scout conversions.

But for "purists", GW has them all on 40s. And I'd recommend 40mms with some basing that elevates the Marines for anyone using the OP's suggested models.
Although it may not be needed since most of the GW Eliminators are kneeling, which standing non-Primaris Marines are the same height or taller than.

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Base size matters in kill team, which is what I play mostly, so I'd want them on the standardized size. I care less for model height than I do for base size personally.

Thanks again for all the feedback.

Just to be clear on a couple of points to avoid confusion.

The models in question are Forgeworld Recon Space Marines from their Horus Heresy range and shouldn't look like any other marines in my force as I have just standard GW dudes.

The pictures I posted are just from a quick google search, I haven't even brought any as yet let alone painted them ;-)

I think they must come with a 25mm which I obviously won't be using. I'm certainly going to give them a little elevation on the base, likely with a nice cork rock to stand on.

The only thing I'm slightly torn on is whether to use 32mm or 40mm. The actual Eliminator come on a 40mm but I think these guys would just look stupid on that size base which kinda goes against one of the reasons for using them (they look cool).

What kind of advantage do people think I could be perceived as gaining from using a slightly smaller 32mm base size? I understand how base size can make a difference on a large unit but these are only 3 dudes and the advantage is usually gained by going up in size to cover more ground not down. Obviously that and there is no actual base size rule, just common sense and fair play.

Got to stick with the 40mm bases I'm afraid, as you're meant to use the ones the kit came with (yes older gamers, I'm aware that some kits varied over the years).

So again, mounting them on 32mm could be used by TFG and Chums as 'modelling for advantage' type complaints.

Save yourself the bother, and source some 40mm bases

Fluff to justify the extra wounds would easily be that they are on the verge of promotions. Something has to be between 1W dudes and 4W lieutenants, after all. Honour Guard are already in that situation, right?

Yes I understand that the base size maybe a sticking point, I think I'll have to get the models and see how they look on a 40mm. If I go with 32mm's and someone has an issue I can always have some spare 40mm with me to stand them on to stop it being an issue. With quite expensive cool looking models like these its more about the looks that the extra 8mm to be honest.


Yes there are a few power armoured standard marines with 2 wounds: honour guard, sanguinary guard, wolfen, techmarine gunner are ones that come to mind. So there is decent justification for them to exist :-)

Ah no need to worry about that. Right base, right approximate height and it'll be clear what they actually are.

So here is a WIP of my boys' Eliminators that I made from Scouts. The center model actually IS an Eliminator and is the unit SGT. because he is kneeling, the Scout conversions on rocks and bigger bases are the same height or taller.



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Sure, if you put them on 40mm bases

 Ishagu wrote:
Sure, if you put them on 40mm bases

I've got plenty of extra 40mms for it, and did indeed try them on 40s, but it actually made them look ridiculous, like little kids playing dress-up next to their military dad. Proportions are important too, and putting Scouts on 32s looks FAR more like Eliminators on 40s.

To me, aesthetics are more important that a paltry 4mm difference on either side of the base. We can always carry around blank 40mms to slap them on top of if an opponent insists, but in my extension experience with conversions (seriously check out my sig, like 90% of my models are conversions in some manner) and playing in a variety of LGSs over multiple states, no one I've EVER played would make a big deal about the 32mms, if they even noticed at all.

And that's the point. Scouts on 40s, even standing on rocks for the height, become obvious that they are not Elims, but on the appropriately proportioned bases (32s), it actually tricks your mind as the silhouette matches the real Elim Sgt they will be next to.

But like I said, I would 100% carry around extra 40mms as a courtesy to an opponent that, for some reason, takes the game more seriously than the hobby. We are all just trying to have fun, after all.

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