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Not Online!!! wrote:
Yup, covenant khorne is not khorne.


Ahhh, rip. I guess the cheapest troop chocie available then is 5x chainsword marines for 55pts.

"I can't believe all these tryhard WAACs out there just care about winning all the time when it's supposed to be a game for fun!!!!!!! Also here's my 27 page essay on why marines are OP and Orkz should get a bunch of OP rules so I can win more games

-the_scotsman"

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the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Yup, covenant khorne is not khorne.


Ahhh, rip. I guess the cheapest troop chocie available then is 5x chainsword marines for 55pts.


?: Cultists are cheaper.

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I know it wont happen because demon models are both for aos and 40k (But for some reason the ultra mechanical and sci fi Soul Grinder is good? But wait... have they removed that model from the store? I can't find it), but I would love for 40k demons to have units like Doom demons.

I want Khorne heavy demons with armor and mechanical guns that shoot flaming screaming skulls or something like that. Magic bullets, it doesnt matter. Death rays, whatever.

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 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Not Online!!! wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Yup, covenant khorne is not khorne.


Ahhh, rip. I guess the cheapest troop chocie available then is 5x chainsword marines for 55pts.


?: Cultists are cheaper.


Can you get Khorne keyword cultists? I didn't know you could give them a Mark.

"I can't believe all these tryhard WAACs out there just care about winning all the time when it's supposed to be a game for fun!!!!!!! Also here's my 27 page essay on why marines are OP and Orkz should get a bunch of OP rules so I can win more games

-the_scotsman"

-ERJAK 
   
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 Galas wrote:
I know it wont happen because demon models are both for aos and 40k (But for some reason the ultra mechanical and sci fi Soul Grinder is good? But wait... have they removed that model from the store? I can't find it), but I would love for 40k demons to have units like Doom demons.

I want Khorne heavy demons with armor and mechanical guns that shoot flaming screaming skulls or something like that. Magic bullets, it doesnt matter. Death rays, whatever.


But you have 2 different codex so why not a core of shared models and then specific ones for each game.

GW just wants to sell your more astartes
   
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the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Yup, covenant khorne is not khorne.


Ahhh, rip. I guess the cheapest troop chocie available then is 5x chainsword marines for 55pts.


?: Cultists are cheaper.


Can you get Khorne keyword cultists? I didn't know you could give them a Mark.


They have Mark.



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 Daedalus81 wrote:

In the 41st millennium there is only overpriced hamberders.

 
   
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Does someone use the summoning system?

 
   
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mrFickle wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
mrFickle wrote:
This why a chaos cults and Renages codex would be good because then you could build a mono god army across 3 codexes if your committed to one god.


You can do this now, FWIW. Maybe for not much longer, because the rules for Renegades & Heretics are likely to get cut in the new FW books 'cause the Renegades minis are OOP and "no models no rules", but it is currently possible. You need Index: Forces of the Astra Militarum.


Thanks for the info I was not aware. But I am assuming that doesn’t provide a key word structure with stratagems that make it worth while taking army from 1 god. I mean if you wanted a slaneesh army and took demons CSM and cultists fro the 3 different boos would there be by benefit to that during a game (as if your army had come from one codex) or is it just for your own pleasure?


Renegades and Heretics are effectively an Astra Militarum army without the <ASTRA MILITARUM> Keyword, or Orders. Or Regimental Doctrines. Or Warlord Traits. Or Stratagems. Or basically anything that makes Astra Militarum good.

It's a fluff army for sure.

NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
 Excommunicatus wrote:
You don't need a Daemonkin book to build a Daemonkin army in 8th Ed., though.

One R&H detachment, one Daemon Detachment, one Heretic Astartes detachment.

Bosh.


You do in order to accumulate blood points, or whatever they were called, so you can summon stuff or augment your army.

It was more this mechanic I was alluding to.


Ah, fair enough.

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Renegades and Heretics are effectively an Astra Militarum army without the <ASTRA MILITARUM> Keyword, or Orders. Or Regimental Doctrines. Or Warlord Traits. Or Stratagems. Or basically anything that makes Astra Militarum good.

It's a fluff army for sure.


So GWcould just release a supplement with those things to allow you to use the IG codex and model to make a cult army. But they won’t I guess

I’m guessing the FW books done have these
   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The daemons codex is also in that weird state WHFB 8th Daemons was where you aren't sure if GW wants united daemons to be a thing or not; the different units of different gods are component parts of an army whole that are semi-defective split up, penalizing one for going mono-god. Yet other mechanics strongly incentivize going mono-god and punish mixing them.


For me the weird thing is that Daemons are basically ported wholesale from WH Fantasy/AoS.

This means that they miss out on a lot of the useful Sci-Fi elements from 40k. Like guns.

Personally, I'd expect a lot more daemons along the lines of the Soul Grinder, augmented with guns and other technology.

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 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
 
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