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2020/02/07 12:38:20
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Ahhh, rip. I guess the cheapest troop chocie available then is 5x chainsword marines for 55pts.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2020/02/07 13:32:04
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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the_scotsman wrote:
Ahhh, rip. I guess the cheapest troop chocie available then is 5x chainsword marines for 55pts.
?: Cultists are cheaper.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2020/02/07 14:10:41
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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I know it wont happen because demon models are both for aos and 40k (But for some reason the ultra mechanical and sci fi Soul Grinder is good? But wait... have they removed that model from the store? I can't find it), but I would love for 40k demons to have units like Doom demons.
I want Khorne heavy demons with armor and mechanical guns that shoot flaming screaming skulls or something like that. Magic bullets, it doesnt matter. Death rays, whatever.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/02/07 14:24:40
 Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2020/02/07 14:26:14
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Can you get Khorne keyword cultists? I didn't know you could give them a Mark.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2020/02/07 15:45:22
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Galas wrote:I know it wont happen because demon models are both for aos and 40k (But for some reason the ultra mechanical and sci fi Soul Grinder is good? But wait... have they removed that model from the store? I can't find it), but I would love for 40k demons to have units like Doom demons.
I want Khorne heavy demons with armor and mechanical guns that shoot flaming screaming skulls or something like that. Magic bullets, it doesnt matter. Death rays, whatever.
But you have 2 different codex so why not a core of shared models and then specific ones for each game.
GW just wants to sell your more astartes
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2020/02/07 16:07:19
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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the_scotsman wrote:
Can you get Khorne keyword cultists? I didn't know you could give them a Mark.
They have Mark.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2020/02/08 00:26:06
Subject: Re:Fixing mono Khorne
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Terrifying Wraith
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Does someone use the summoning system?
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2020/02/08 01:09:14
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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mrFickle wrote: Excommunicatus wrote:mrFickle wrote:This why a chaos cults and Renages codex would be good because then you could build a mono god army across 3 codexes if your committed to one god.
You can do this now, FWIW. Maybe for not much longer, because the rules for Renegades & Heretics are likely to get cut in the new FW books 'cause the Renegades minis are OOP and "no models no rules", but it is currently possible. You need Index: Forces of the Astra Militarum.
Thanks for the info I was not aware. But I am assuming that doesn’t provide a key word structure with stratagems that make it worth while taking army from 1 god. I mean if you wanted a slaneesh army and took demons CSM and cultists fro the 3 different boos would there be by benefit to that during a game (as if your army had come from one codex) or is it just for your own pleasure?
Renegades and Heretics are effectively an Astra Militarum army without the <ASTRA MILITARUM> Keyword, or Orders. Or Regimental Doctrines. Or Warlord Traits. Or Stratagems. Or basically anything that makes Astra Militarum good.
It's a fluff army for sure.
NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote: Excommunicatus wrote:You don't need a Daemonkin book to build a Daemonkin army in 8th Ed., though.
One R&H detachment, one Daemon Detachment, one Heretic Astartes detachment.
Bosh.
You do in order to accumulate blood points, or whatever they were called, so you can summon stuff or augment your army.
It was more this mechanic I was alluding to.
Ah, fair enough.
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2020/02/08 10:58:24
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Renegades and Heretics are effectively an Astra Militarum army without the <ASTRA MILITARUM> Keyword, or Orders. Or Regimental Doctrines. Or Warlord Traits. Or Stratagems. Or basically anything that makes Astra Militarum good.
It's a fluff army for sure.
So GWcould just release a supplement with those things to allow you to use the IG codex and model to make a cult army. But they won’t I guess
I’m guessing the FW books done have these
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2020/02/08 11:06:30
Subject: Fixing mono Khorne
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:The daemons codex is also in that weird state WHFB 8th Daemons was where you aren't sure if GW wants united daemons to be a thing or not; the different units of different gods are component parts of an army whole that are semi-defective split up, penalizing one for going mono-god. Yet other mechanics strongly incentivize going mono-god and punish mixing them.
For me the weird thing is that Daemons are basically ported wholesale from WH Fantasy/ AoS.
This means that they miss out on a lot of the useful Sci-Fi elements from 40k. Like guns.
Personally, I'd expect a lot more daemons along the lines of the Soul Grinder, augmented with guns and other technology.
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 blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
 the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
 Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
 insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
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